MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

[yavuzovic]

well what do you guys think of his defense when i went after flash and was convinced BB was telling me he scanned him instead of MF?

I thought he seemed okay I guess

Yav seemed really over hyper when that was happening

Yeah it made me think y2k is scum because he was very willing to lynch flash there. I thought it was Brain's trap to catch who wants an easy mislynch.

[y2kjbk]

I think it makes way more sense that worcej lied about losing his armor than yav.

[Vecna]

I think Vecna has gone a little nutty. Go back to MS Paint and draw some low iq shapes or something k?

Dont worry, ill make a glorious painting to commemorate the event of your lynch after tomorrow

[Vecna]

I think it makes way more sense that worcej lied about losing his armor than yav.

ND lost his armor and fakeclaimed car (squigs or MF's item)

DemonRHK is scum, which is why there was no scum roleblock N1. They roleblocked his heart, so he is not actually in love with yavuz.

[y2kjbk]

I think it makes way more sense that worcej lied about losing his armor than yav.

ND lost his armor and fakeclaimed car (squigs or MF's item)

DemonRHK is scum, which is why there was no scum roleblock N1. They roleblocked his heart, so he is not actually in love with yavuz.

I need this explicated more for me to follow your train of thought. Is this you reading ND as scum separately and fitting things to have it make sense, or a stronger case than than that?

[y2kjbk]

The former is what I’ve been doing and it hasn’t been working out well.

[y2kjbk]

hmmmm, ND may be bussing Durga

[y2kjbk]

is is possible they were fake-yelling at each other and brainbomb got swept up in it?

[y2kjbk]

Would scum want to hide their cannon and use it secretly, openly declare it for town cred? I'd do the latter, it's way easier. Imagine scum Durga never came forward with her gun, she would have been lynched yesterday or earlier.

So it's WIFOM to assume that Durga coming forward with her cannon on N0 means she's town.

[y2kjbk]

And scum Durga wouldn't want to fire it at EON so that she could better prove she actually has a cannon, and also avoid nurse kits.

[yavuzovic]

bainbomb - Hardcleared. No reasonable situation in which he is scum.

damo666 - Hardcleared. No reasonable situation in which he is scum.

(1)DemonRHK - In the pool of suspicion. No RB N1 might mean scum roleblocked their lover to be able to wait with picking a better target later. Was pretty gung-ho for Rdrivera, as I would expect a weak scum setup to be, since they cannot easily get rid of armor-wearers. Confirmed not the guy that rb'd RD if RD is town (although if scum knew the sticky is still out there, why on earth would you not have your lover do the roleblocks?)

Durga - Confirmed not the armored tank that Chaqa is. Is mean to Vecna but secretly just really admires my art.

flash2015 - Confirmed not the RB on Rdrivera unless scum did some really weird roleswaps.

ND - Could technically be the guy that RB'd Rdrivera if Squigs/MF had his claimed item. Pretty unlikely he faked a role that was on the dead townies.

(2)rdrivera2005 - The big mystery. Ghug flipping town makes it much less likely that Rdrivera is scum. Its still possible if Xorxes or Bozo was sticky, and they lost an item N1 or N2. This would make the puzzle all that much weirder though.

Yavuz - Im still having trouble coming up with a way in which he wouldve come to his claim as scum. Scum definately would not repair kit on this shield item to deduce whether it was on the three dead people. Its possible that they repair kitted the thief, and have the thief steal the shield from Xorxes. Even if this is the case, it means they wouldve needed a way to communicate what was stolen from Xorxes, and Yavuz wouldve needed to interpret that signal. Else his fakeclaim wouldve just been a lucky guess......even though it might not have been so hard knowing what was missing.

(3)worcej - Worcej claimed early enough that I do not really see how he could not just be cleared here. The story of him checking the sticky on ND also seems weird enough that I dont think this is a fakeclaim.

y2kjbk - Not buying Brainbombs theory.

1) Demon is confirmed town to me. A mafia using lovely heart on a town didn't sound logical to me. I'm sure he is town. Unless he did this to clear himself and planning to leave me for final. But Vecna's heart roleblock idea makes sense.
2) Rivera's claim still sounds like too specific for a mafia fakeclaim but worths to keep in suspect pool.
3) Worcej can be scum if he somehow knew the second nurse kit was gone. He could claim early because he knew nobody is going to cc him.

[damo666]

Hey scum, wifom roleblock me next for good fun

Why did you say this?

[damo666]

Why was flash not even an option today?

Because he is assumed quasi clear

[damo666]

GM NOTE:

Since I have been asked to clarify, the ARMOUR does protect against the NK as well as shots from a CANNON.

Remember the Armour, like other items, works only once. If someone with Armour was both shot at, and targeted by the NK, on the same night, they would still die.

Oh btw, browsing xorxes iso made me remember this: It was me that harassed jamiet to ask if my item would protect me against scumkills as well, which made him have to clarify the rule.

##town vecna for life

How does this townclear you?

[damo666]

Yes.

Does this mean the person with the item still needs to choose a new person N2?

Yes.

So a scum demonRHK RBs Yav and switches affection to someone who is not gonna get lynched (me for example) thus protecting himself and can safely push Yav. I bet I'm not NKd.

[damo666]

In the light of info from the ghug lynch and the new love heart info I'm gonna look at possible item/player match ups (a la Vecna (who I think is town btw) ) under 2 different scenarios:

truthful rdrivera

lying rdrivera

Fwiw I think rdrivera is genuine though.

At the moment I'm thinking demonRHK and ND .

[y2kjbk]

I can’t see how rdrivera could be coming up with a convoluted lie about armor and stickiness that holds.

[damo666]

Does this mean the person with the item still needs to choose a new person N2?

Yes.

So a scum demonRHK RBs Yav and switches affection to someone who is not gonna get lynched (me for example) thus protecting himself and can safely push Yav. I bet I'm not NKd.

Correction: scum demonRHK is RB'd and switches affection from Yav to ....

[damo666]

I can’t see how rdrivera could be coming up with a convoluted lie about armor and stickiness that holds.

"stickiness that holds" lol. You didn't even do it on purpose did you? Tend to agree however.

[y2kjbk]

lol no i didn't. add the word "merit" to the end of my statement.