MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

[flash2015]

So I understand we have towncleared (or close to towncleared the following):
BB
y2k
DemonRHK (birthday card)
damo
worcej
me

That leaves Vecna-Yav-Durga-ND-Rdr:

Durga said a while back (page 169):

"Jamiet will kick me out of the game if I tell you why I think ND is genuine. So I'll explain end of game"

which is an oddly specific claim which would be hard to back down from (i.e. I am suggesting this means they are both town).

And rdr keeping on reminding us that he should still be in the lynch pool feels very towny.

So doesn't that mean the last two must be Vecna-Yav.

Am I missing something obvious?

In the very unlikely event one of them rolls town, then lynch Durga.

[rdrivera2005]

Do people not like me playing in these games? I got the impression that maybe I just wasnt welcome anymore or something. I thought people liked me around here. I consider this community my internet home and im not really very good at diplomacy or mafia for that matter I guess. I just didnt realize that I was also disliked as a person.

I can speak only for me of course, but I enjoy playing Mafia with you (please don't make me regret saying this, lol). I don't remember if we played Diplomacy together.

[rdrivera2005]

So I understand we have towncleared (or close to towncleared the following):
BB
y2k
DemonRHK (birthday card)
damo
worcej
me

That leaves Vecna-Yav-Durga-ND-Rdr:

Durga said a while back (page 169):

"Jamiet will kick me out of the game if I tell you why I think ND is genuine. So I'll explain end of game"

which is an oddly specific claim which would be hard to back down from (i.e. I am suggesting this means they are both town).

And rdr keeping on reminding us that he should still be in the lynch pool feels very towny.

So doesn't that mean the last two must be Vecna-Yav.

Am I missing something obvious?

In the very unlikely event one of them rolls town, then lynch Durga.

I don't think Demon is remotely clear, he just isn't a good lynch as Yav is better (flip two on the price of one).

And you are also far from clear my friend.

[flash2015]

So I understand we have towncleared (or close to towncleared the following):
BB
y2k
DemonRHK (birthday card)
damo
worcej
me

That leaves Vecna-Yav-Durga-ND-Rdr:

Durga said a while back (page 169):

"Jamiet will kick me out of the game if I tell you why I think ND is genuine. So I'll explain end of game"

which is an oddly specific claim which would be hard to back down from (i.e. I am suggesting this means they are both town).

And rdr keeping on reminding us that he should still be in the lynch pool feels very towny.

So doesn't that mean the last two must be Vecna-Yav.

Am I missing something obvious?

In the very unlikely event one of them rolls town, then lynch Durga.

I don't think Demon is remotely clear, he just isn't a good lynch as Yav is better (flip two on the price of one).

And you are also far from clear my friend.

He claimed the birthday card, didn't he which was a town only item and no-one cc? How is Demon not clear?

I would regard myself as clear...shooting one scum and bussing a second D1 seems a bit of an extreme strategy. But why go for the more complex scenario without testing out the simpler scenario first?

[flash2015]

I think we have spent the last day lost exploring all sorts of very complex low probability scenarios.

[Durga]

No don't read into my statement. It means nothing.

[ND]

advice from Durga: don't read.

What?

[Durga]

advice from Durga: don't read.

What?

My statement on jamiet.

[rdrivera2005]

So I understand we have towncleared (or close to towncleared the following):
BB
y2k
DemonRHK (birthday card)
damo
worcej
me

That leaves Vecna-Yav-Durga-ND-Rdr:

Durga said a while back (page 169):

"Jamiet will kick me out of the game if I tell you why I think ND is genuine. So I'll explain end of game"

which is an oddly specific claim which would be hard to back down from (i.e. I am suggesting this means they are both town).

And rdr keeping on reminding us that he should still be in the lynch pool feels very towny.

So doesn't that mean the last two must be Vecna-Yav.

Am I missing something obvious?

In the very unlikely event one of them rolls town, then lynch Durga.

I don't think Demon is remotely clear, he just isn't a good lynch as Yav is better (flip two on the price of one).

And you are also far from clear my friend.

He claimed the birthday card, didn't he which was a town only item and no-one cc? How is Demon not clear?

I would regard myself as clear...shooting one scum and bussing a second D1 seems a bit of an extreme strategy. But why go for the more complex scenario without testing out the simpler scenario first?

No, Damo had the birthday card and gave it to him. Damo is cleared.

Being a more complex cenario is a lot different from clear. Worcej is also not clear.

[flash2015]

No don't read into my statement. It means nothing.

Why did you say it?

[flash2015]

I don't think Demon is remotely clear, he just isn't a good lynch as Yav is better (flip two on the price of one).

And you are also far from clear my friend.

He claimed the birthday card, didn't he which was a town only item and no-one cc? How is Demon not clear?

I would regard myself as clear...shooting one scum and bussing a second D1 seems a bit of an extreme strategy. But why go for the more complex scenario without testing out the simpler scenario first?

No, Damo had the birthday card and gave it to him. Damo is cleared.

Being a more complex cenario is a lot different from clear. Worcej is also not clear.

You are right. DemonRHK had the love heart which is not guaranteed to be town. But even then the choice is the same - Vecna and Yav/Demon.

[y2kjbk]

I woke up from a dream where the last two scum are Durga and worcej. Will think about that more in the morning. Back to sleep.

[y2kjbk]

Worcej - you may want to unvote; the bot is still picking you up as voting for Moscow.

Technically my vote is still there, but I plan to move it - just not rushing to do so yet.

Going back to something posted earlier:

Luke-warm pre sleep takes:

- There is at least one scum between ghug-xorx-vecna. Leaning Xorx due to trying to hedge bb's guilty scan on MF, and him attacking strategy and mechanics with little player interaction. It's fluff and filler.

...

@RHK - I see the logic behind xorx, but Vecna and ghug seem to be a stretch. Is your logic that ghug is scum because the loose connection between MF and the gun concern? Is there anything else you would see in how he's playing, because he looks pretty standard to my (relatively little) prior experiences with him.

Vecna seems to be playing per-normal, considering it was a night start and we were all in "hurry up and wait" mode.

As for my reads, once again I am stuck on Squigs (note: I have never read him very accurately). Last game, he was the MVP and got everything figured out and now seems to be confused about how some items worked - doesn't add up. That, and the scum post about cannoning, also makes me feel ugh. But I've felt ugh and he was town twice, so meh...

##vote Squigs - let's see if a wagon goes or not!

##vote Durga - Getting caught up, see people finally find her scum worthy, so I can hopefully get more on this wagon!

[y2kjbk]

And now I understand why Durga was so shocked that she missed worcej not wanting her to shoot squigs, then never really talked about it. Now I’m really back to sleep.

[brainbomb]

world champs day 1 48 hour phases the post totals per player none are below 60
the top poster had 539 posts day 1

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... hip/page67

kinda tells you how lots of posts is actually normal on most mafia sites. we just think talking alot here is pointless and spammy.

[brainbomb]

I dont have any new thoughts. y2k is still scum.

[brainbomb]

y2k sees that durga goes ballistic when pressured. my forecast for the next phase is y2k repeats himself for 200 posts that durga is probably scum until durga gets lynched and y2k leads yet another ml and gets away with it because nobody looks at his play only his mechanical almost clear.

also expect many posts by y2k detailing convoluted item combinations that somehow have durga not really having the gun, or that she actually had armor, or some non sequitor thing durga hates.

and for 200 pages y2k will hammer away at it until you mislynch her and then he will still end up in lylo rambling about the next person he wants to ml.

[brainbomb]

and durga wont know how to reply other than to say hes insane and horrible and hes too conspirathetical but she wont ever realize hes scum because scum play by the safe rules not the risk taker rules.

even tho repair kit is gone, never claimed. hmm odd.

[y2kjbk]

Brainbomb, are bad at this game or just bad at reading me?

[y2kjbk]

I couldn’t follow your train of thought for most of D3 lobbing your accusations at me similar to me on flash. You were either on some insane reaction test you think I failed and are tunneling, or you were scum blowing up in OMGUS fashion.