MAFIA 83: HALLOWE'EN IN THE TOYSHOP - GAME THREAD

[SpiritoftheRadio]

I dont think ive played with you before, so I dont know your meta. You also have barely talked, so it is hard to know what kind of crazy to expect from you

[Jamiet99uk]

##call gm

Who can vote

People who CANNOT vote today:

Damo666, rdrivera2005, Kakarroto, Hamilton Brian, JustAGuyNamedWill, and DemonRHK.

People who CAN vote today:

ND, SpiritoftheRadio, Worcej, Macca.

[worcej]

I dont think ive played with you before, so I dont know your meta. You also have barely talked, so it is hard to know what kind of crazy to expect from you

It wasn't crazy to claim here, and I'll go down claiming that for eternity.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I don’t get why Demon would do this if he was town. Why wouldn’t he wait until 16 minutes left and then use it so that he had more power in getting who he thought was mafia killed?

The timing of the grenade was extremely mafia telling.

[worcej]

I am in POE, so my death isn't meaningless, but the connections to scum are pretty non-existent so you won't learn anything tangentially from my flip.

I just find it humorous to be considered needed to die because of a claim that has been un-CC'ed. In form of statistics, it's far more likely I am town than a lucky scum but keep ignoring that

[worcej]

I don’t get why Demon would do this if he was town. Why wouldn’t he wait until 16 minutes left and then use it so that he had more power in getting who he thought was mafia killed?

The timing of the grenade was extremely mafia telling.

Honestly, Demon did what I tried to do here with my claim - save himself while not ruining the whole phase.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I don’t get why Demon would do this if he was town. Why wouldn’t he wait until 16 minutes left and then use it so that he had more power in getting who he thought was mafia killed?

The timing of the grenade was extremely mafia telling.

Honestly, Demon did what I tried to do here with my claim - save himself while not ruining the whole phase.

Well If he truly was town he wouldn’t have ruined the phase since he would be town. So this makes zero sense.

[SpiritoftheRadio]

I think most people at this point have stopped hunting and are just giving away information out of self preservation even though at this point that info is becoming increasingly trash for town because it cant even be trusted. They are not realizing this "doing what you need to do to survive" business just gives mafia an advantage, and only slightly benefits YOU and not town.

[worcej]

I think most people at this point have stopped hunting and are just giving away information out of self preservation even though at this point that info is becoming increasingly trash for town because it cant even be trusted. They are not realizing this "doing what you need to do to survive" business just gives mafia an advantage, and only slightly benefits YOU and not town.

Sure, but the town benefits from this information as well and time and time again I meet players like you and kak who think we cannot possibly ever claim because it's always bad.

FOR THE THIRD TIME SO YOU GET THE POINT: I claimed because of the pressure vote from Macca, who has not been online for any phase changes this game, and now you thinking I should die because I claimed.

Like, it feels like you want to kill me to punish me for claiming instead of actually scumming me, which is pretty fucking anti-town by itself.

[worcej]

Spirit, you have not given me anything to counter point back at you and have ignored my points on Kak.

You've effectively only said I should die because of POE. I have done what I can to tell you how I should not be in POE here.

[SpiritoftheRadio]

so kak is the guy you want? not even demon?

[SpiritoftheRadio]

kak just because he was hostile about item claims? I have been hostile about item claims a lot more than him guy

[Kakarroto]

Ultimately though, I get it - I am in POE and have done a nothing burger this game.

I hardclaim the shield.
I did not receive any card.

did you leave any crumbs?

Kak's hostility about my item claims seems over the top. If we're being honest, he's effectively already communicated that the item was sent by someone who's already dead and the lack of omission of facts leads me to scum him.

if the sender was dead, I would've told you all; no, the sender is still alive and kicking, that much I can tell you. I tried my best to not get the card sender killed by accidentally giving a hint for mafia. I just thought, since the sender put some thought in his code, I shouldn't make decisions for the sender in terms of revealing.

Although, I have to admit, with the pool of possible senders so small and this much talk about it, it just might be enough for a somewhat lucky guess.

Oh, and I got COVID from my travels - and I had gotten the booster 4 weeks ago. Yeehaw...

oh, that's bad. Hope you get well soon!

[worcej]

so kak is the guy you want? not even demon?

I don't think Demon is scum for his use of the slime

[DemonRHK]

Had will already caught flak for his vote at the very tail end of D1 being incorrect math?

[worcej]

kak just because he was hostile about item claims? I have been hostile about item claims a lot more than him guy

No, his hostility is annoying and lack of revealing the sender of his card now and half sharing is suspect.

[Kakarroto]

I want Spirit, Will, and Kak to each explain to me why they are not scum.

@Kak and Spirit

I'll give you both an hour to explain why you aren't scum to me.

give a man a bit more time, it's saturday night and I was away. Normally I would've stayed out, but with this EoD pretty scary for not only me but also the card holder, I just couldn't do that.


Well I would've said that if I was mafia, I would've bussed on day one, surly. Other than that, I don't know my own mafia game extensively, I usually play on intuition as either alignment, so better ask someone who looks extensively on meta.

I read one thing that I want to add, since I didn't think about that for my defense, the part that mafia targeted macca and not the card sender yesternight. They probably wanted to hit a clear, I think, so why would I as mafia take that risk if I knew who the card sender was.

[SpiritoftheRadio]

I mean, if the card sender wanted to be known, they could out themselves and kak could confirm at that point. Wanting a reveal is another one of those moves that only really benefits the mafia my guy. Voting kak will force a town clear to out themselves against their will, so no i wont be voting kak now. This should be true up until we have fewer folks. I dont want more items outed, you really dont seem to care about that.

[damo666]

Please get rid of Spirit

[worcej]

Please get rid of Spirit

Would love to now at this point, but Macca has to be here