MAFIA 83: HALLOWE'EN IN THE TOYSHOP - GAME THREAD

[Hamilton Brian]

"I feel like I should get a stay until D5 at last" is also such a line I can only mafia see to utter. He just came online after getting heat and instead of having a normal day where we would get more information, he just throws a big frigging wrench to sabotage town. If I could vote today, I would so just vote and endvote his sorry @®$€ out of this game. I can't trust him with anything, and if you don't vote him out today, I'm sure you will come to regret it.

Thank you for eloquently putting into words the thoughts that I would only be able to utter as gutteral grunts while I groom myself. Nice to see I wasn't the only one thinking it.

This plea for "more time" is so vacuuous.

[ND]

Why would someone send kak a card lol?

[Hamilton Brian]

Damo's reveal is pretty timely because I was doing a reread Thursday night and was not keen on what I saw. Does damo appear mafiaesque when holding an item?

Anyway, no matter now. At least we've got some time to do more sorting.

Just an off the cuff throw but along with a Demon kill today, I'd say a Will is viable.

[Hamilton Brian]

Why would someone send kak a card lol?

Kak's a nice person?

[DemonRHK]

"I feel like I should get a stay until D5 at last" is also such a line I can only mafia see to utter. He just came online after getting heat and instead of having a normal day where we would get more information, he just throws a big frigging wrench to sabotage town. If I could vote today, I would so just vote and endvote his sorry @®$€ out of this game. I can't trust him with anything, and if you don't vote him out today, I'm sure you will come to regret it.

Thank you for eloquently putting into words the thoughts that I would only be able to utter as gutteral grunts while I groom myself. Nice to see I wasn't the only one thinking it.

This plea for "more time" is so vacuuous.

You were going to getSO much info from a runaway wagon for the third day in a row. There were like 4 votes on me, 2 in r 3 solid and unmoving, and Hambone snap voted me with an insane amount of vitriol in his post. That was all the makings of a 7 vote wagon if I’d ever seen one.

Anyway, this give me the best chance for us to get scum. If I end up dying anyway, well at least I tried. And I 100% assure you if I do die today there will be a wave of blame heaped on me for it. 50/50 deserved.

Is there a high chance a lurker is scum? Yes, I’f be shocked if one of rdr or worc isn’t scum. This is normally the place where I’d push for the ‘I take the kill if you go next when I flip town but frankly I’m not caught up on the game enough to know if that’s feasible for us.

[damo666]

I think the grenade more or less townclears Demon so scum pool now Spirit rdr Kak worcej and to a much h lesser extent Will and ND.

Why do you think it clears them? Just catching up this morning so let me see if I have this right.

Mafia Demon would toss it at the point where votes on them had consolidated to a kill as close to EOD as possible? Forces a miskill?

Town Damo...? I don't know, I guess it's a as random a move as throwing an axe at someone.

This has been updated, he's back in the pool

[ND]

What about Spirit?

D1 seemed to be keen on stirring me up. Follows Bozo closely at EOD1, Bozo turns up dead N1. And has kind of vanished while keeping a low profile through the rest of the game.

[Hamilton Brian]

I’m intrigued with the high volume D1 folk that have trailed off drastically.

[worcej]

Why is that a big deal to you?

Because he started to speculate about the itens at night, instead of wanting the day. But it was not a big deal, otherwise I would be voting him. And now it's pointless as he is uncced.

For the umpteenth time I was not speculating merely putting out there what was already known. Subsequently I declared a) I didn't have card and b) I am Nurse and also detailed what worcej wierdly made public.

Me claiming something early and not at the right time is weird now? Lol

[Hamilton Brian]

I’m intrigued with the high volume D1 folk that have trailed off drastically.

Strike that; not really anything that stands up to cross-examination.

[worcej]

Honestly, I am at the point of ##vote Demon because I don’t think throwing the grenade here was correct and town!demon should have claimed it under pressure instead of just random action, especially after 4 pretty dead phases

[ND]

Suspects

DemonRHK: Throws the grenade with 24+ hours remaining. I already identified a golden moment to use that item though D1 if he was scum. Imagine how different this game would have been if we had zero information D1.

Will: I would agree that a scum Will is possible. On a rough recall, we have Brain's preference for Worcej over Will and we have Sweet defending Will, but also leaving the door open for a Will vote if needed. Maybe.

Kakarroto: I don't know why anyone would send him a card which is why I am skeptical of this one. Honestly, he hasn't really been an active poster or done much. So why send Kak of all people the card and not say someone who is townclear?

Day 1, on Page 40, he writes: "Regarding Brian, I think he looks better now, his words about the item make a bit more sense now. Voting him now wouldn't be too good, though thinking about it, since he already used his item and there are still some that think he's mafia, wouldn't that make a somewhat 'safe' vote target? I mean, in case he's town, we don't lose the item. In case he's mafia, we get mafia." (Kak, 40)

Kind of a strange thing to write when the consensus is that Brian was not scum due to the Sweet shot. I noted that it felt like he was still trying to float this idea or discredit Brian. Page 40 is also happening near the very end of EOD. He also talks about Worcej, "What's the reason you're voting for worcej here? I don't think bona is the right choice to save brian, honestly I don't like voting worcej here but its better than bona or brain." There was some debate about a Worcej wagon vs. a Bona wagon if you remember Brain even gave some support to the Worcej wagon over Will.

Rdr Rdr has made some valid pro-town statements throughout the game. He advised Vecna to shoot Brain with the gun which was town indicative advice to give. He is skeptical of me which I think is fair. His wagon D1, idk the basis for it. Darg voted him without a reason on Page 39 and idk what DemonRKH's reason was either than, "nope." (Demon, 31)

So there wasn't really any weight behind the votes or cases. But, then again on D1 we had quite a few votes on people for just stupid reasons like Damo's vote on me for, paraphrasing, 'not moving my vote.' So, idk it was chaotic. It could have gone a different way. And the people on rdr's wagon don't have a case so it would have taken a few others to jump on for braindead reasons. Brain never recommends a rdr push opting for Worcej. Although a scum DemonRKH could have certainly fucked with everyone and the game by throwing the grenade with like 10 seconds left D1.

I think Rdr is probably town.

Worcej
Worcej has done nothing the whole game. He has given reasons for this which is fine. But, in terms of analysis we really have to see what others have said about him especially people like Brain.

Question. Would Scum Brain who has fake claimed an item attempt to bus Worcej on Page 40. Remember, Brain has claimed he has the detective kit. He has an open claim and then he advocates for Worcej, "of the options damo listed id choose worcej over will." (Brain, 40)

Brain knows at some point unless they get really lucky and night kill the real detective that he is going to get countered. He has the item that allows him to survive a day vote. So, why bus a team mate with moments to go before EOD when he knows at some point he is going to be countered and voted?

I think it would be bizarre for Worcej to be scum. Brain bussing him here makes zero sense because a) it's after his claim, b) he knows that he is going to get caught at some point, c) so he busses? Nah.

I don't think so.

Spirit
What has Spirit really done this game? He has made some funny read posts D1. He followed Bozo EOD1. He hasn't really offered much sense kind of opting to keep a low profile. He has sometimes had the appearance of an active poster, but what original idea has he given other than follow along with the town current and latch on to Bozo D1? What has he done since then? I think Spirit is a viable member of the scumteam.

[worcej]

Ultimately though, I get it - I am in POE and have done a nothing burger this game.

I hardclaim the shield.
I did not receive any card.

[worcej]

Wait, so kak has had the card from HB the entire time?

Makes sense honestly lol

[worcej]

You know what, second thought, time to OMGUS

##vote will

[ND]

No, I don't think he has divulged who sent it and that's fine.

[worcej]

So why was HB green in that list recently?

[Hamilton Brian]

Wait, so kak has had the card from HB the entire time?

Makes sense honestly lol

Nope.

[Hamilton Brian]

I like ND's chops. I'd like to think that if I had more time to give, this is how I'd play the game.

I do enjoy reading the thought process when others do it.

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 4.7

Worcej (1) - Macca
DemonRHK (1) - Worcej

Unvoted: SpiritoftheRadio
Not voted yet: ND

6 hours left.