MAFIA 83: HALLOWE'EN IN THE TOYSHOP - GAME THREAD

[DemonRHK]

Also for having not very many posts that’s twice I’ve beetlejuiced you.

What does bettlejuice mean?

Showing up when mentioned. It’s antidotal in most cases with an outside chance of intentional lurk.

[damo666]

If one of DemonRHK worcej or Spirit has the greetings card you should claim now.

I know this implies I don't. I don't.

I don't think it's time for a massclaim yet, so don't start it. You are higher on my list because of that item list at night.

I'm not asking for a massclaim, I'm trying to narrow my POE pool by inviting those in my POE to claim townclear. We can afford gladiator, scum can't.

The item list was nothing more than collating known info.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Hai peoples!

I see we’ve escape the brain drain.

##Vote rdr

Call it a tunnel, but a shot scum tried to deflect me off it, so imma ride or die here.

WOW this is mafia movement

##VOTE DEMON

[damo666]

Why rdr. Only way I see him as scum is if the d1 bona vote + brain claim was to steer the day away from rdr. What else is there in terms of evidence e?

If this were the case why NK darg? Makes no sense.

The darg thing makes no fucking sense at all.

Unless to frame rdr...

[rdrivera2005]

Aight here’s the deal.

I am not going to read anything I have missed unless it’s a case that comes up. You aren’t gonna daykill me, so let’s come together and just get rdr out so we can get another scum out, Kay?

Like fuck we’re not going to DK you.

##Vote Demon

Plead a better case.

Well that’s not very nice.

I have no case because there is nothing to argue. You just angy that I’ve not been participating. Like the last week IRL hasn’t been the guilty and two days of trying to kill brain. And the scum now playing the info game since we don’t have much information.

What is your reasoning? Mad that I don’t believe and I going to die? I’m around-ish now. I’m not going to come groveling back I AM SO VERY SORRY PLEADE FORGIVE ME because that disingenuous. I’m not sorry, I don’t care I have missed things. I’m useless early anyway and doublely so without any real VCA to dig.

Please be indigant elsewhere.

A lot of excuses. You didn't bother to read the game or to give reads, so I don't see any reason to change my vote.

[DemonRHK]

Wanna bet?

[rdrivera2005]

If one of DemonRHK worcej or Spirit has the greetings card you should claim now.

I know this implies I don't. I don't.

I don't think it's time for a massclaim yet, so don't start it. You are higher on my list because of that item list at night.

I'm not asking for a massclaim, I'm trying to narrow my POE pool by inviting those in my POE to claim townclear. We can afford gladiator, scum can't.

The item list was nothing more than collating known info.

Massclaim isn't that bad to be honest, but probably not yet. If we can be sure all town items are still in play it's an auto win. But we can't.

And having more clears right now just makes easier for scum to NK a clear.

[rdrivera2005]

Wanna bet?

This is directed to me?

[worcej]

of the options damo listed id choose worcej over will

I just want to put this on the table again. I think ND utilized the post in one of the walls, but it gets us thinking Brain again. Would vote worcej over will. But Brain lied his ass off so ...

BB can bus the piss out of players too, so I'd NAI him saying this and he could just be fine with a TvT situation.

[worcej]

I just don't get why Brain makes his fake claim an hour and a half before deadline D1 with a team mate dead. He is essentially sacrificing himself. Why?

I thought there must have been a reason for him to do this, but maybe he simply did it because he had the item and there was no greater play. I don't know.

BB is BB - don't try to rationalize weird plays.

[damo666]

Why Worcej?

See my post #1314

Which was this:

@ND don't beat yourself up, you made a good case and just happened to be wrong.

The one flaw was assuming scum would kill Vecna but why should they. He was a likely save target and what was he gonna do with the ax? Kill brain who was a dead man walking anyway or kill someone else who has a good chance of being town.


Now why NK Darg? Well I think they avoided Vecna, Macca and ,HB as possible save targets. So maybe Darg was the kill in order to set up a miskill of rdr. If rdr is scum and was saved day 1 I doubt they kill Darg.

Will screams town, I can't see ND being that elaborate as scum and (for now) assuming Macca and HB are town my main suspects are worcej and DemonRHK. Less likely but possible Spirit and Kak and I guess I might be wrong about rdr. If it's anyone else they've played a blinder.

Which doesn't really explain much other than put our names up as your scum reads.

Why did you link this as justification? Just POE?

Yes, POE.

Macca uncc'd detective claim, claimed a guilty on scumbrain, claimed to have been saved when there was no NK. 99.99999999% town

Ham claimed to have killed scumSweet, so either scumHam killed one of his own on the real killer is keeping quiet which would be daft so Ham 99.8% town

NDs Vecna case seems way to elaborate to be a scumploy so 98% town

Damo 100% town (just accept it for now)

This leaves

Demon RHK, Spirit both about 50/50

Will seems noob town, was voting Sweet say 75% town

Kak's card response makes him more likely town than not, say 60%

rdr only possible day 1 save but the darg NK worries me, probably not scum with Demon, say 55% town

worcej - has brains' vote in his favour so say 60% town

So, my scumpool is

Demon RHK, Spirit > rdr > worcej, Kak >>> Will >>>>>>>>>>ND

[worcej]

OK, maybe worcej was bussing sweetandcool.

##VOTE worcej

this is weirdly agreeable
you go from assuming im mafia who soft defended a buddy to accepting the first answer I gave and transitioning into scumread my main detratcor lol

Bozo-Brain dialogue from D1. What's mafia doing here in reply to town?

I am ez to pocket?

[worcej]

Fun Fact: Day 1 lasted for 43 pages. We are on page 70. What a chaotic day that was…

This is actually more common than you realize.

Also, the BB D2 and D3 time sink is killer on activity.

[worcej]

I just want to put this on the table again. I think ND utilized the post in one of the walls, but it gets us thinking Brain again. Would vote worcej over will. But Brain lied his ass off so ...

I'd forgotten this. Maybe Demon is the better vote.

Demon fills that position of "kill the low posters, they're not helping anyway, and mafia always coast through." Which we've learned isn't always the case. But if they are mafia and established this play of, "Oh, my computer blew up" to just kill, kill, kill...kind of brilliant.

It sucks for us.

Kinda shocked you didn't include me in this...

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I don't think it's time for a massclaim yet, so don't start it. You are higher on my list because of that item list at night.

I'm not asking for a massclaim, I'm trying to narrow my POE pool by inviting those in my POE to claim townclear. We can afford gladiator, scum can't.

The item list was nothing more than collating known info.

Massclaim isn't that bad to be honest, but probably not yet. If we can be sure all town items are still in play it's an auto win. But we can't.

And having more clears right now just makes easier for scum to NK a clear.

If we kill a mafia and the game doesn’t end, a massclaim seems almost forced so we can win.

[worcej]

Demon is almost a coin flip but he probably need to go now we can still misskil.

I feel the same way about ND but people seems to think he is genuine and he made such an effort that I will just wait.

And I think Damo is more sus then Worcej.

##vote Demon

Interested to hear more on the damo opinion as it's a new one from what I've seen catching up.

[DemonRHK]

Anyway. My original rdr vote was revenge for the “Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing” loss I took in my last game.

However I do feel good on the vote based on sweet’s deflection. I fell everything after that flip is tainted information.

[worcej]

If one of DemonRHK worcej or Spirit has the greetings card you should claim now.

I know this implies I don't. I don't.

I don't think it's time for a massclaim yet, so don't start it. You are higher on my list because of that item list at night.

I'm not asking for a massclaim, I'm trying to narrow my POE pool by inviting those in my POE to claim townclear. We can afford gladiator, scum can't.

The item list was nothing more than collating known info.

FWIW, I can say my item is not verifiable.

[worcej]

Anyway. My original rdr vote was revenge for the “Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing” loss I took in my last game.

However I do feel good on the vote based on sweet’s deflection. I fell everything after that flip is tainted information.

Why is everything post-sweet tainted information?

[DemonRHK]

Once that is in the open everything he says is cardinal truth. Then it was mentioned there was some odd shit with bb even prior to D3, which would indicate bb grandstanding to let everyone else go away. The issue with early scum death is it taints all information after as scum now need to be as revisionist as possible. One small cut invalidates the integrity of the armor, and all the unexposed members will shore up their play imo.