MAFIA 83: HALLOWE'EN IN THE TOYSHOP - GAME THREAD

[ND]

I just don't get why Brain makes his fake claim an hour and a half before deadline D1 with a team mate dead. He is essentially sacrificing himself. Why?

I thought there must have been a reason for him to do this, but maybe he simply did it because he had the item and there was no greater play. I don't know.

[Hamilton Brian]

the fact he argued w me like he always does and how he got a bunch of votes from people who dont play with him as much felt like what always happens to town sweet

OK, maybe worcej was bussing sweetandcool.

##VOTE worcej

this is weirdly agreeable
you go from assuming im mafia who soft defended a buddy to accepting the first answer I gave and transitioning into scumread my main detratcor lol

Bozo-Brain dialogue from D1. What's mafia doing here in reply to town?

[Hamilton Brian]

I was doing a look through to see direct mentions brain made to players but there's no standard. There were 5 direct replies/questions of bona, 3 with bozo, 5 with sweet. I could keep going but it seems like a fool's errand of nothingness.

[Hamilton Brian]

I think we're going to just have to go through a reads list of each day with everyone and then sort out. Reach some sort of concensus that way.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

of the options damo listed id choose worcej over will

I just want to put this on the table again. I think ND utilized the post in one of the walls, but it gets us thinking Brain again. Would vote worcej over will. But Brain lied his ass off so ...

There was little to no chance Will was going to be a wagon D1. Me and you were the only two people who voted him or even seemed to consider it. I find it hard to believe Brain would fake claim to save Will when Will wasn't in much danger at all.

Objectively, I think he was just trying to be agreeable and blend in with the town. I know that sounds like me tryna cover my ass but I believe it.

[rdrivera2005]

Why though? AFAIC, Rivera is playing that typical game of his. I need to reread but there's nothing much about their posts that stands out. He's been around, but not really leading, but not really deterring either I don't think.

Rivera isn’t my #1 suspect. Worcej is. I am waiting for worcej to plead his case.

But rivera has given off some weird vibes form his posts. He has not contributed nearly as much as others and it seems intentional.

I can’t rely on knowing how Rivera playing in previous games, but I will say if he plays like this a lot it may get tricky when he’s in a game.

You have a fair point, but I am usually a lot better when I am Mafia. But I prefer to play as town as I don't need to put that much effort and I like the deduction part a lot more then faking.

[rdrivera2005]

I just don't get why Brain makes his fake claim an hour and a half before deadline D1 with a team mate dead. He is essentially sacrificing himself. Why?

I thought there must have been a reason for him to do this, but maybe he simply did it because he had the item and there was no greater play. I don't know.

I think either he consider that he can't escape the kill and thought that using his item to a no-kill day and maybe outing detective kit was a good choice. This could also mean there is two other scum left as making this play to leave a single scum is too risky.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Fun Fact: Day 1 lasted for 43 pages. We are on page 70. What a chaotic day that was…

[Jamiet99uk]

Vote Count 4.0

rdrivera2005 (1) - JustAGuyNamedWill
worcej (1) - damo666

DemonRHK, Hamilton Brian, Kakarroto, Macca573, ND, rdrivera2005 SpiritoftheRadio and worcej are yet to vote.

35.5 hours remain in Day Four.

[Jamiet99uk]

GM NOTE:

I have not seen any "Call GM" enquiries for the current D4 phase. If I have missed any please bring them to my attention.

Otherwise, carry on.

[damo666]

Nice.

##vote worcej

I think either worcej or DemonRHK today

Is this you saying that you consider worcej or Demon mafia or do you just randomly want to pop someone for some discovery?

I think they are mafia by POE.

Macca isn't, you ND and Kak almost definitely aren't, Will unlikely. Rdr is possible (brain save day 1?) but the darg kill makes that unlikely. This leaves Spirit , worcej and Demon. Of these Spirit seems most towny although he could be skilled scum. So, there you are.

[damo666]

The only thing that really throws me off is: why darg?

I feel like darg had a considerable amount of suspicion amongst him, and the mafia surely knew this.

It just doesn’t make sense. Maybe it was something darg said? Probably that, but idk…

To frame rdr? He may have said something that spooked them. Probably worth doing a Darg ISO

[damo666]

of the options damo listed id choose worcej over will

I just want to put this on the table again. I think ND utilized the post in one of the walls, but it gets us thinking Brain again. Would vote worcej over will. But Brain lied his ass off so ...

I'd forgotten this. Maybe Demon is the better vote.

[damo666]

I just don't get why Brain makes his fake claim an hour and a half before deadline D1 with a team mate dead. He is essentially sacrificing himself. Why?

I thought there must have been a reason for him to do this, but maybe he simply did it because he had the item and there was no greater play. I don't know.

It's brain! I wouldn't think too deeply. He was excited having armour/skull got a few votes and couldn't resist a fakeclaim.

[Hamilton Brian]

of the options damo listed id choose worcej over will

I just want to put this on the table again. I think ND utilized the post in one of the walls, but it gets us thinking Brain again. Would vote worcej over will. But Brain lied his ass off so ...

I'd forgotten this. Maybe Demon is the better vote.

Demon fills that position of "kill the low posters, they're not helping anyway, and mafia always coast through." Which we've learned isn't always the case. But if they are mafia and established this play of, "Oh, my computer blew up" to just kill, kill, kill...kind of brilliant.

It sucks for us.

[Hamilton Brian]

We need a little action here so I am going to put up a vote to at least spur us into engagement.

##Vote Kak

[damo666]

I just don't get why Brain makes his fake claim an hour and a half before deadline D1 with a team mate dead. He is essentially sacrificing himself. Why?

I thought there must have been a reason for him to do this, but maybe he simply did it because he had the item and there was no greater play. I don't know.

I think either he consider that he can't escape the kill and thought that using his item to a no-kill day and maybe outing detective kit was a good choice. This could also mean there is two other scum left as making this play to leave a single scum is too risky.

I think you are right, there are probably 2 scum left. I'd be astonished if not at least one in worcej/Demon/Spirit.

I think the only way we don't win is if there is a deepscum like Brian (but I doubt).

Anyway, not voting outside those 3 today .

Brain's comments about argument in Maf chat may be true. A worcej indicator and to a lesser extent Demon.

[damo666]

We need a little action here so I am going to put up a vote to at least spur us into engagement.

##Vote Kak

Interesting. I guess as scum he would still have to reveal getting the greetings card.

I think I'll add him to my pool of 3 to make 4.

@Kak what is the downside to you revealing who you think sent card?

[Hamilton Brian]

Yeah, wait. I am a really flippin' dunderhead this morning.

Is Kak saying he received a card?

And said card is a town-only item that reveals the alignment of the receiver?

Christ, what's the downside to the reveal if true? It clears 2 more people.

[Hamilton Brian]

And can we assume the candy heart hasn't been used, or if it has, the recipient is still alive?

I feel like we're going to be closer to solving this after today.

Damo, here I was thinking you were just being performative with your "item post" what with all your Xs and bad formatting.