MAFIA 83: HALLOWE'EN IN THE TOYSHOP - GAME THREAD

[ND]

Yep, I fucked up big time. Slapping myself in the head.

I don't understand the reasoning for them targeting Vecna. I laid out my logic before I made the shot. I don't understand why they would not target someone with a gun. That's bizarre and the illogical play messed me up.

Anyway, I suck. Hard.

Sorry Vecna. I was wrong. This is on me if we lose.

Not my best game. Nothing really to say. Darg-Vecna being town has literally discredited my entire thought process on the game.

I don't have anything to add. I will vote to hammer the night this time though.

Not my best game. You all can make fun of me and I guess vote me out. I deserve it.

[Hamilton Brian]

For better or for worse, let's try this again, with a bit more evidence.

Brain: Bona, Darg, Damo, Rivera, Worcej, then Bona finally. Does this protect Darg? Nope. Shades Darg.
Damo: Worcej, Demon, Darg, Worcej, Bona, ND then Bona finally. Gives Bona the 5th vote.
Darg: Vecna, Sweet, Rivera, Brain, then landing on Rivera at 1:00 to go. Is Darg protecting Brain here because it is 3 Rivera and 3 Brain? Obviously not.
Demon: Vote on Rivera the whole time
JustAWill: Demon, Sweet, HB, Brain, Darg, Bona. Unnecessary move to Bona since it was not competitive. Could be said to be saving Brain.
Kak: Darg the whole day.
MaccaL Brain, then Ghug for a moment, then rest of time on Brain
ND: Started Ghug but then on JustAWill from the 31:48 mark.
Rivera: HB, then Darg with 00:20 to go.
Spirit: Bona the entire time
Sweet: ghug, then me until I killed him.
Vecna: no vote
Worcej: Sweet (his vote on HB seemed shit), then Brain with 02:06 to go. Was Sweet a way of distancing? Because then it’s Brain….3 Darg 3 HB 2 Brain

[Hamilton Brian]

The thinking is different from yesterday.

Has to be.

Liking Rivera and worcej a shittonne less tonight.

[Hamilton Brian]

As much as it didn't look like Brain wasn't bussing, tell me he didn't bus at least for a bit on D1.

[Hamilton Brian]

Yep, I fucked up big time. Slapping myself in the head.

I don't understand the reasoning for them targeting Vecna. I laid out my logic before I made the shot. I don't understand why they would not target someone with a gun. That's bizarre and the illogical play messed me up.

Anyway, I suck. Hard.

Sorry Vecna. I was wrong. This is on me if we lose.

Not my best game. Nothing really to say. Darg-Vecna being town has literally discredited my entire thought process on the game.

I don't have anything to add. I will vote to hammer the night this time though.

Not my best game. You all can make fun of me and I guess vote me out. I deserve it.

Go back to the drawing board. 8-2 or 9-1; town-mafia yeah?

[Hamilton Brian]

And one of Bona, Rivera, JustAWIll, Spirit, bozo, or worcej shot ghug.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

And one of Bona, Rivera, JustAWIll, Spirit, bozo, or worcej shot ghug.

For the record I solemnly claim I did not shoot ghug

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Ok, this upcoming day is going to be super annoying. I have NO idea what’s going to happen. Frankly, I am certain I am going to be the target for the nightkill. So I would like to formally thank ND for apologizing. I do not blame him for my mistakes. I will not say my current reads because if I am wrong they will have an unnecessary target on their back

[SpiritoftheRadio]

townies should always share their reads. We can sort them out after if you die. I usually make my big reads posts somewhere near EoN for this reason. Smart townies can use your statements in the light of knowing you were good. Of course, you dont know anything in particular if youre town, but the town reads help cut through the fake ones people make as scum.

[worcej]

I'd ask for a sub if Jamie had any, but I know he doesn't.

Let the record show I did peg BB for softly protecting sweet.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Ok, this upcoming day is going to be super annoying. I have NO idea what’s going to happen. Frankly, I am certain I am going to be the target for the nightkill. So I would like to formally thank ND for apologizing. I do not blame him for my mistakes. I will not say my current reads because if I am wrong they will have an unnecessary target on their back

I scumread damo, worcej, ND (just a teensy bit) and Demon

[damo666]

And one of Bona, Rivera, JustAWIll, Spirit, bozo, or worcej shot ghug.

How do you know this?

[Jamiet99uk]

For the bot:

DAY HAS ENDED

[damo666]

@ND don't beat yourself up, you made a good case and just happened to be wrong.

The one flaw was assuming scum would kill Vecna but why should they. He was a likely save target and what was he gonna do with the ax? Kill brain who was a dead man walking anyway or kill someone else who has a good chance of being town.


Now why NK Darg? Well I think they avoided Vecna, Macca and ,HB as possible save targets. So maybe Darg was the kill in order to set up a miskill of rdr. If rdr is scum and was saved day 1 I doubt they kill Darg.

Will screams town, I can't see ND being that elaborate as scum and (for now) assuming Macca and HB are town my main suspects are worcej and DemonRHK. Less likely but possible Spirit and Kak and I guess I might be wrong about rdr. If it's anyone else they've played a blinder.

[damo666]

For the bot:

DAY HAS ENDED

@Jamie when does this night end?

[damo666]

For the bot:

DAY HAS ENDED

@Jamie when does this night end?

bot still thinks it's day3

[damo666]

And one of Bona, Rivera, JustAWIll, Spirit, bozo, or worcej shot ghug.

How do you know this?

How have you eliminated me, Demon, darg and kak?

[Hamilton Brian]

And one of Bona, Rivera, JustAWIll, Spirit, bozo, or worcej shot ghug.

How do you know this?

How have you eliminated me, Demon, darg and kak?

Reading the mech of the item, the person that ordered the hit had to have been online when it happened.

[Hamilton Brian]

I'd ask for a sub if Jamie had any, but I know he doesn't.

Classic mafia worcej!

[damo666]

so, posting thoughts for people without involuntarily revealing who did send me the card is a bit dicey. I have however given out information about some people already. I came to the conclusion the best is to more or less do a "group read" and make it vague so mafia can't guess easily who is towncleared. I will however point the ones I think have a greater potential of being mafia.

Brainbomb - his actions with posting those textes pretty much outed him as mafia. If he flips town this game, I think I just give up on reads or let myself be substituted because I can't read for the love of love.

darg - pretty sure he is another mafia with his connections to brain, as mentioned in my previous post with my vote thoughts. His reactions to my vote were too defensive in my opinion. So after brain flips mafia (if not send me to the monastary or something), we should vote out darg.

DemonRHK - if the game doesn't end after brain and darg flipped (and I was right), then I think RHK has the best chance of being the fourth mafia. He jumped in to defend darg right when darg gained momentum. I mean sure, could be just a town trying to defend a town read, but so early in the game, it just doesn't feel right.

I had two more who I think have higher chances of being mafia, but I decided not too point them out in favour of increasing the hiding space for the greeting card sender. So then, have here a list of people* in order of signing up (see page 1) I think are pretty town or town enough for the moment:

Worcej, ND, JustAGuyNamedWill, Damo666, Vecna, Rdrivera2005, SpiritoftheRadio

Also, these two are pretty much town cleared; I think there is a very tiny, rather miniscule mathematical chance that Brian might not be the one using the axe on sweet, but with Occam's razor, that's neglectable. Though, if it comes to the final three and he is still alive, I thinks it's healthy to doubt Brian then. Until that comes, those two should be just towncleared:

Hamilton Brian, Macca573

So, eliminating darg and DemonRHK as you consider them poss scum the potential card sender is one of {worcej, Will, me, rdr or Spirit}. Sharing for the class.