MAFIA 83: HALLOWE'EN IN THE TOYSHOP - GAME THREAD

[Jamiet99uk]

yes JamieT who always applies a fair an balanced letter of the law in all mafia games. where a player calling another an incel was totally fine and everyone needs to just calm down, but brainbomb using a +1 on a few posts as a joke (when it used to be illegal) resulted in my modkill.

rohan doesnt forget.

sorry what was the point again?

clearly vecna should never be modkilled and assuming he was spared to help mafia is a piss poor way to scumread him. his total lack of interest in the game is a much better line of accusation

What is a +1?

It's where you hit that "plus" sign in the bottom right of a post.

It is strongly encouraged to click this every time the GM posts.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

yes JamieT who always applies a fair an balanced letter of the law in all mafia games. where a player calling another an incel was totally fine and everyone needs to just calm down, but brainbomb using a +1 on a few posts as a joke (when it used to be illegal) resulted in my modkill.

rohan doesnt forget.

sorry what was the point again?

clearly vecna should never be modkilled and assuming he was spared to help mafia is a piss poor way to scumread him. his total lack of interest in the game is a much better line of accusation

What is a +1?

It's where you hit that "plus" sign in the bottom right of a post.

It is strongly encouraged to click this every time the GM posts.

I see. Thanks.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Night ends in 2 1/2 hours.

[dargorygel]

Night 1 Readish list

Macca town. I approve the tinfoiling, although I think in the end, that the axing was done pretty straightforwardly… Ham killed Sweet (no doubt because of MY superior tinfoil analysis!) and a scum member independently fear killed ghug. At any rate, macca is reasonable, responds, and I townread her.

Brain scum. While the tedious work of reading all of the lowposters seems townier than not, I find brain not tunnelly enough to be town. I wonder if ole brain is attempting to appear his usual self (he’s even pointed out how like normal he is being.) I heartily doubt the claim. Brain has fake-claimed as any alignment, but I see no crumbs, AND he ticked my tell.

Vecna town. His absence and low post count notwithstanding, vecna is properly analytic, and attempts conversations rather than pronouncements. (He tends, I believe, towards pronouncements as scum.) More to the point, he does not care what anyone thinks of him or his points.

Ham town. Almost a clear, really. If there IS some convoluted oddness going on, it will show up later. I particularly liked his response to all the musing about axe shenanigans. Pulled me back from some of my leanings towards tinfoil shenanigans, tbh.

Kak scum. Kak is too tunnelly. Kak is unenthused. Kak has expressed no silliness. Kak is scum.

Darg town. Ole Darg stubbornly plays his own game. He is more brilliant than most folk see (as evidenced in his artful (although slightly silly) catch of sweet.

Rdr not really null, but some pulling both ways. My gut at EoD yesterday, in the sudden panic of wanting to change my tunnelled vote from sweet, jumped me to rdr. He is usually hard for me to read. It might be some omgus on my part, but rdr seems busy, without claiming to be busy.

ND town. Maybe the least of my town reads. But his pendantic and argumentation seems town. Angry, but not for no reason. The stubbornness about moving his vote to avoid a tie is slightly concerning.

Will town. He is clearly more experienced than his newbiness implies. I do not buy ND’s narrative about Will. His high level of involvement, with more than filler, feels town.

Bozo town. Not a lot to go on. I note no quizzes, surveys, math problems, or mechanical conundrums outlined. But that is actually NAI. Just gut at this point.

Spirit town. I like spirit’s jumping all over the place. But not without firmly planting his feet before the next jump.

Worcej scum or town. Worcej has been quiet. I do not recall if he has given a reason. But he is very calm. Too calm. (Mysterious hallowe’en music) A SLIGHT lean towards town because I think it might be self-restraint instead of unabashed saying what he wants to say.

So my scumlist is: brain, kak, and an unenthusiastic worcej or rdr.

[bozotheclown]

I don't typically advocate getting rid of low participants just for the lack of participation, but in this case I think there is mafia in the D1 low post count players by POE, although there is likely one well hidden mafia elsewhere.

[dargorygel]

Did all this anti low poster sentiment pick up in the night?

[Hamilton Brian]

Will, the was a considerable amount of text that you pulled out of the Day 1.

Are there any conclusions you'd care to draw?

[brainbomb]

it would be great if you could explain what this alleged scumtell is that you keep mentioning. Id like to know what im being accused of at the very minimum

[brainbomb]

Did all this anti low poster sentiment pick up in the night?

this seems like youre trying to conflate some posts I made about low posters into being a larger spectacle. tell me who besides me even researched anything like that?

[Hamilton Brian]

Brain has claimed a town item. There's a miniscule chance it's a fake claim. 17 of those 18 items are within this pool. For Brain to drop that as a fake is pretty ballsy.

We have to assume brain is townclear.

[Hamilton Brian]

After deaths, 11 town and 3 mafia or 12 town and 2 mafia


Assuming brain and I being clear, 9 more town and 3 mafia or 10 more town and 3 mafia. Not sure how much my gut reads change now compared to yesterday.

[Hamilton Brian]

I am pretty sus of the tinfoilry that macca devoted to determining who, or how, killed sweet and ghug. And that was the big content for them over the night.

[dargorygel]

Did all this anti low poster sentiment pick up in the night?

this seems like youre trying to conflate some posts I made about low posters into being a larger spectacle. tell me who besides me even researched anything like that?

Furst, regarding the tell, no. Then you woukd stop doing it, anvit has helped me read you pretty accurately. But itvis not an accusing thing. Think poker, not police lineup.

And the posting thing has neen talked about by lots of folk, not just you. Bozo did it a few minutes ago. If i have the chance, i wantvto see if the posting talk increased at night.

[dargorygel]

Brain has claimed a town item. There's a miniscule chance it's a fake claim. 17 of those 18 items are within this pool. For Brain to drop that as a fake is pretty ballsy.

We have to assume brain is townclear.

Happy if that is the case.

[brainbomb]

Did all this anti low poster sentiment pick up in the night?

this seems like youre trying to conflate some posts I made about low posters into being a larger spectacle. tell me who besides me even researched anything like that?

Furst, regarding the tell, no. Then you woukd stop doing it, anvit has helped me read you pretty accurately. But itvis not an accusing thing. Think poker, not police lineup.

And the posting thing has neen talked about by lots of folk, not just you. Bozo did it a few minutes ago. If i have the chance, i wantvto see if the posting talk increased at night.

ah so in legal terms you have lots of heresay and conjecture

those are KIIIIInds of evidence

[Hamilton Brian]

Streams of thought as we close out the Night.

Rivera low content isn't AI, but I am uninspired with their posts to this point. Towning Kak and Spirit (disagree and agree); towns Macca (disagree); Didn't like the sweet wagon (so is this mafia buddy trying to pull people off the wagon)? Mafia leans Darg and HB.

Definitely something to go back to.

Kak: worcej, demon, darg are their suspects. Kak bussing Darg on D1? Still suggesting me as the Daykill (he used his item, so he's probably town but if he's mafia we get mafia) seems gratuitous. Mafia still pushing a towny kill?

[dargorygel]

this seems like youre trying to conflate some posts I made about low posters into being a larger spectacle. tell me who besides me even researched anything like that?

Furst, regarding the tell, no. Then you woukd stop doing it, anvit has helped me read you pretty accurately. But itvis not an accusing thing. Think poker, not police lineup.

And the posting thing has neen talked about by lots of folk, not just you. Bozo did it a few minutes ago. If i have the chance, i wantvto see if the posting talk increased at night.

ah so in legal terms you have lots of heresay and conjecture

those are KIIIIInds of evidence

Have i claimed it was more? The tell is unique to me, and I don't expect it to influence anyone. The posting was not particularly aimed at you, it was a wondering.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Will, the was a considerable amount of text that you pulled out of the Day 1.

Are there any conclusions you'd care to draw?

I have a few conclusions. This may be an unpopular opinion but I believe ND isn’t fully clear. I don’t believe they would do something so detrimental to the town without ulterior motives. At the least he is trying to survive so he can be the one to find the mafia. 25% scum chance

Brain is a 75% scum chance. Y’all are putting too little weight on his defense of sweet day 1

Kak seems oddly absent. They have a lot of unimportant posts and some that would lead to some weird conclusions 35% scum chance

Will is pretty clearly town. 96% town chance

[Vecna]

Night 1 Readish list

Macca town. I approve the tinfoiling, although I think in the end, that the axing was done pretty straightforwardly… Ham killed Sweet (no doubt because of MY superior tinfoil analysis!) and a scum member independently fear killed ghug. At any rate, macca is reasonable, responds, and I townread her.

Brain scum. While the tedious work of reading all of the lowposters seems townier than not, I find brain not tunnelly enough to be town. I wonder if ole brain is attempting to appear his usual self (he’s even pointed out how like normal he is being.) I heartily doubt the claim. Brain has fake-claimed as any alignment, but I see no crumbs, AND he ticked my tell.

Vecna town. His absence and low post count notwithstanding, vecna is properly analytic, and attempts conversations rather than pronouncements. (He tends, I believe, towards pronouncements as scum.) More to the point, he does not care what anyone thinks of him or his points.

Ham town. Almost a clear, really. If there IS some convoluted oddness going on, it will show up later. I particularly liked his response to all the musing about axe shenanigans. Pulled me back from some of my leanings towards tinfoil shenanigans, tbh.

Kak scum. Kak is too tunnelly. Kak is unenthused. Kak has expressed no silliness. Kak is scum.

Darg town. Ole Darg stubbornly plays his own game. He is more brilliant than most folk see (as evidenced in his artful (although slightly silly) catch of sweet.

Rdr not really null, but some pulling both ways. My gut at EoD yesterday, in the sudden panic of wanting to change my tunnelled vote from sweet, jumped me to rdr. He is usually hard for me to read. It might be some omgus on my part, but rdr seems busy, without claiming to be busy.

ND town. Maybe the least of my town reads. But his pendantic and argumentation seems town. Angry, but not for no reason. The stubbornness about moving his vote to avoid a tie is slightly concerning.

Will town. He is clearly more experienced than his newbiness implies. I do not buy ND’s narrative about Will. His high level of involvement, with more than filler, feels town.

Bozo town. Not a lot to go on. I note no quizzes, surveys, math problems, or mechanical conundrums outlined. But that is actually NAI. Just gut at this point.

Spirit town. I like spirit’s jumping all over the place. But not without firmly planting his feet before the next jump.

Worcej scum or town. Worcej has been quiet. I do not recall if he has given a reason. But he is very calm. Too calm. (Mysterious hallowe’en music) A SLIGHT lean towards town because I think it might be self-restraint instead of unabashed saying what he wants to say.

So my scumlist is: brain, kak, and an unenthusiastic worcej or rdr.

wow.

I think I agree with pretty much every single read here.

thats....quite rare

[Jamiet99uk]

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