MAFIA 83: HALLOWE'EN IN THE TOYSHOP - GAME THREAD

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Re: MAFIA 83: HALLOWE'EN IN THE TOYSHOP - GAME THREAD

#921 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:11 am

Macca573 wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:04 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:51 am
Macca573 wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 1:16 am


##CALL GM

Are items revealed on flip?
sweetandcool, ghug, and Bonatogether did not have their items revealed.
Is there any feasible way that sweet used his item during the day? hypothetically, the axes could have been ghug and bona, and we've seen no items because they're gone.

That's why I asked
I don't think any other item could be used D1.

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Re: MAFIA 83: HALLOWE'EN IN THE TOYSHOP - GAME THREAD

#922 Post by TheMadMonarch » Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:14 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:11 am
Macca573 wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:04 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:51 am


sweetandcool, ghug, and Bonatogether did not have their items revealed.
Is there any feasible way that sweet used his item during the day? hypothetically, the axes could have been ghug and bona, and we've seen no items because they're gone.

That's why I asked
I don't think any other item could be used D1.
Except the repair kit?

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Re: MAFIA 83: HALLOWE'EN IN THE TOYSHOP - GAME THREAD

#923 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:16 am

Macca573 wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:07 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:45 am
Macca573 wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 12:52 am
OR, if we want to get really tinfoilly,

Maybe ghug did it, then HB killed him to silence him and claim credit.... 🤷‍♀️
I like this idea, but HB claimed the shot 12 minutes before the ghug shot was announced, I think HB would have waited to make sure ghug did not counter-claim him.
I thought about this too, but ghug hadn't posted for 6 minutes beforehand (I thought it was longer than that but oh well)

Does anyone remember if ghug is a name shower or a anonymous guest type person?

That could give HB enough time.


Also consider HB gave the order, than had to post before the second shot to remove suspicion, and the 12 minutes is just Jamie.




Maybe I'm going crazy
It is possible HB claimed the shot on sweetandcool after ordering a shot on ghug, taking the chance ghug was not around, but it does not seem very likely.
I think that would be more impressive than HB shooting sweetandcool himself as mafia.

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Re: MAFIA 83: HALLOWE'EN IN THE TOYSHOP - GAME THREAD

#924 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:21 am

Macca573 wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:14 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:11 am
Macca573 wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:04 am


Is there any feasible way that sweet used his item during the day? hypothetically, the axes could have been ghug and bona, and we've seen no items because they're gone.

That's why I asked
I don't think any other item could be used D1.
Except the repair kit?
Maybe, if the user of the repair kit repaired an axe and would not be holding it until they were able to use it in the next phase.

However, I don't think there is any reasonable way sweetandcool could have used his item before being shot.

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Re: MAFIA 83: HALLOWE'EN IN THE TOYSHOP - GAME THREAD

#925 Post by TheMadMonarch » Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:27 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:21 am
Macca573 wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:14 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:11 am


I don't think any other item could be used D1.
Except the repair kit?
Maybe, if the user of the repair kit repaired an axe and would not be holding it until they were able to use it in the next phase.

However, I don't think there is any reasonable way sweetandcool could have used his item before being shot.
Yeah, I can't see any way this happens outside of same-time use shenanigans.

Unless ghug and sweet both shot themselves. but that is unlikely

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Re: MAFIA 83: HALLOWE'EN IN THE TOYSHOP - GAME THREAD

#926 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:34 am

Macca573 wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 1:16 am
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 1:11 am
Macca573 wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 1:07 am
How many mafia members are there now?
2 or 3. We don't know if the game started with 4 or 3.

Regarding the item-hunting, I am not sure. Knowing that there's variety of items out there, picking off town might prompt lost items. I don't know. Either ghug didn't have anything or we don't get to know the item.
##CALL GM

Are items revealed on flip?
I just saw that this was already answered:
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 12:08 pm
sweetandcool wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:29 am
##CALL GM

When players die, will their item be revealed?
No.

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Re: MAFIA 83: HALLOWE'EN IN THE TOYSHOP - GAME THREAD

#927 Post by TheMadMonarch » Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:36 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:34 am
Macca573 wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 1:16 am
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 1:11 am


2 or 3. We don't know if the game started with 4 or 3.

Regarding the item-hunting, I am not sure. Knowing that there's variety of items out there, picking off town might prompt lost items. I don't know. Either ghug didn't have anything or we don't get to know the item.
##CALL GM

Are items revealed on flip?
I just saw that this was already answered:
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 12:08 pm
sweetandcool wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:29 am
##CALL GM

When players die, will their item be revealed?
No.
Oh awesome. Thanks

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Re: MAFIA 83: HALLOWE'EN IN THE TOYSHOP - GAME THREAD

#928 Post by TheMadMonarch » Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:44 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:29 am
##CALL GM

When players die, will their item be revealed?
Sweet asks this without much to suggest reason, and follows soon after with:
sweetandcool wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:34 am
##CALL GM

I just noticed that the item list contains no asterisks. Is this an oversight or are all items available to either alignment?

now we know he's mafia, what does that tell us about which item he had?

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Re: MAFIA 83: HALLOWE'EN IN THE TOYSHOP - GAME THREAD

#929 Post by TheMadMonarch » Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:45 am

##CALL GM

Do the mafia know each others items?

I know scum roles are sometimes posted in the scumchat D1, I'm wondering if the items get the same privliges.

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Re: MAFIA 83: HALLOWE'EN IN THE TOYSHOP - GAME THREAD

#930 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:27 am

Rereading sweetandcool's posts, it seems like he made pocketing type posts about Bonatogether, dargorygel, ghug, JustAGuyNamedWill, Kakarroto, ND, and SpiritoftheRadio. sweetandcool expressed suspicion of Hamilton Brian and brainbomb, but Hamilton Brian has claimed the shot on sweetandcool and brainbomb has claimed a town only item.

So, based on sweetandcool's posts, I think damo, RHK, Macca, rdrivera, Vecna, and worcej are reasonable suspects. I am OK with damo's D1 EOD, and I like Macca's HB theory. RHK, rdrivera, Vecna, and worcej are also low level participants so far. rdrivera defended sweetandcool in a way I would not expect as mafia, so maybe the remaining mafia are the 3 players with the fewest D1 posts.

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Re: MAFIA 83: HALLOWE'EN IN THE TOYSHOP - GAME THREAD

#931 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:32 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Sun Oct 22, 2023 2:57 am
worcej wrote:
Sun Oct 22, 2023 2:30 am
Will, ND, and Spirit come off as town to me.

Hot take with limited backing - sweet may be scum. His post he linked for HB was shit.

##vote sweet
I disagree, his post was classic Ham-is-scum.

But actually other than that, most of his posts after that have actually seemed more like town. I am going to have to look through the thread again and reassess, but I'm still okay with my vote. Last game Ham did a really good job acting, so I know he can project towniness pretty well, except for the occasional slip.
I think worcej's vote for sweetandcool and sweetandcool's response seem consistent with bussing. It reminds me of M1024.

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Re: MAFIA 83: HALLOWE'EN IN THE TOYSHOP - GAME THREAD

#932 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:34 am

Also, I will always be concerned that Vecna would have been mod-killed if he was town.

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#933 Post by damo666 » Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:58 am

JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Sun Oct 22, 2023 11:55 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:17 am
Anybody wanna talk about mass reveal of items before scum meets to plan?
Is this not proposing a massclaim?
Reads more like a trap invitation

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#934 Post by damo666 » Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:23 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:34 am
Also, I will always be concerned that Vecna would have been mod-killed if he was town.
I think it more likely there was no sub and Vecna told Jamie about his Lost Weekend.

Anyway we shouldn't game the GM and this should not be a consideration.

(Sorry J)

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Re: MAFIA 83: HALLOWE'EN IN THE TOYSHOP - GAME THREAD

#935 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:33 am

Macca573 wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 1:16 am
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 1:11 am
Macca573 wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 1:07 am
How many mafia members are there now?
2 or 3. We don't know if the game started with 4 or 3.

Regarding the item-hunting, I am not sure. Knowing that there's variety of items out there, picking off town might prompt lost items. I don't know. Either ghug didn't have anything or we don't get to know the item.
##CALL GM

Are items revealed on flip?
Evidently not, no.
Potato, potato; potato.

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Re: MAFIA 83: HALLOWE'EN IN THE TOYSHOP - GAME THREAD

#936 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:34 am

Macca573 wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:45 am
##CALL GM

Do the mafia know each others items?

I know scum roles are sometimes posted in the scumchat D1, I'm wondering if the items get the same privliges.
The Mafia are allowed to talk at night.

They were not pre-notified of each others' items.
Potato, potato; potato.

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Re: MAFIA 83: HALLOWE'EN IN THE TOYSHOP - GAME THREAD

#937 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:36 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:34 am
Also, I will always be concerned that Vecna would have been mod-killed if he was town.
I am a neutral adjudicator.
Potato, potato; potato.

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Re: MAFIA 83: HALLOWE'EN IN THE TOYSHOP - GAME THREAD

#938 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:39 am

GM NOTE
Please remember to send individual item actions, if you wish to use any tonight, by PM here in WebDip.

You may change or withdraw your submitted action before EoN if you wish to, since night actions are processed at the end of the phase.
Potato, potato; potato.

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Re: MAFIA 83: HALLOWE'EN IN THE TOYSHOP - GAME THREAD

#939 Post by TheMadMonarch » Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:12 am

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:34 am
Macca573 wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:45 am
##CALL GM

Do the mafia know each others items?

I know scum roles are sometimes posted in the scumchat D1, I'm wondering if the items get the same privliges.
The Mafia are allowed to talk at night.

They were not pre-notified of each others' items.
Thanke

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#940 Post by TheMadMonarch » Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:15 am

Decisions, decisions.
This is a tough game ain't it?

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