MAFIA 83: HALLOWE'EN IN THE TOYSHOP - GAME THREAD

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I got scum the first time round, and now I'm sad about it.

1000iq scum play??? Lol

This was mainly a joke. But I thought about it a little bit:

so macca is probably mafia because they voted me.

I could see macca being the mafia. Idk i’ve never played with them before.

Brainbomb has pitched the idea of Macca. I was open to the idea because I had no read on them AT THE TIME. At no point did I vote them or campaign to. I am sad that I agreed with Brainbomb. Why aren’t we scrutinizing Brainbomb? idk this is dumb.

I think brainbomb is town. Just a feeling. But the hypocrisy from ND is wild.

[ND]

Yeah, so there is a lot to unpack here on 23. I’ll just make a general comment instead of replying to someone in specific.

A) If you believe Will is town then you are willing to accept that he is just a ‘new town player’ who is in way over his head. He doesn’t understand the game. He contradicts himself. Doesn’t know what a vote is or who is voting for him. He thinks people who post a lot are town and those who don’t are mafia. He is essentially clueless. You have to be willing to make those assumptions. These assumptions overlook one large red flag from Page 11-12 though.

B) When Will began to post today, earlier, on 11-12 he singled Macca out and said they were scum? Why? Who knows, but he contradicts himself on it and he walks it back. Macca becomes someone on the 'radar.' Never giving any kind of clear answer in the moment. This reeks as someone trying to hide or obfuscate the situation. It's something that is unexplainable. I think he accidently called out a team mate and is trying to bury that fact and walk it back. If he is new town, then why not just say, "hey I made a mistake. I'm new. What's a scum. What do I need to do to help the town win? Please can someone explain the rules to me?" He only starts to do this later when he gets pressure.

I’ll remind you all that this is not a guessing game. This is a reading comprehension game. And to answer Will, “why not kill the person who would contribute the LEAST to a town victory” how do you know this? Voting for someone who hasn’t posted is pretty anti-town behavior. If Demon is town and they are killed then there are literally no connections to draw upon or to do further inquiries upon. We can’t see who talked to them, who may have slipped in a conversation, etc. It’s essentially null and meaningless. If they are scum then we are one step closer to victory, but have gained no further information from them. Concerning Sweet & Ghug, “he could just as easily be floundering town.” Explain the red flag that I have identified from Page 11-12 to me.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Yeah, so there is a lot to unpack here on 23. I’ll just make a general comment instead of replying to someone in specific.

A) If you believe Will is town then you are willing to accept that he is just a ‘new town player’ who is in way over his head. He doesn’t understand the game. He contradicts himself. Doesn’t know what a vote is or who is voting for him. He thinks people who post a lot are town and those who don’t are mafia. He is essentially clueless. You have to be willing to make those assumptions. These assumptions overlook one large red flag from Page 11-12 though.

B) When Will began to post today, earlier, on 11-12 he singled Macca out and said they were scum? Why? Who knows, but he contradicts himself on it and he walks it back. Macca becomes someone on the 'radar.' Never giving any kind of clear answer in the moment. This reeks as someone trying to hide or obfuscate the situation. It's something that is unexplainable. I think he accidently called out a team mate and is trying to bury that fact and walk it back. If he is new town, then why not just say, "hey I made a mistake. I'm new. What's a scum. What do I need to do to help the town win? Please can someone explain the rules to me?" He only starts to do this later when he gets pressure.

I’ll remind you all that this is not a guessing game. This is a reading comprehension game. And to answer Will, “why not kill the person who would contribute the LEAST to a town victory” how do you know this? Voting for someone who hasn’t posted is pretty anti-town behavior. If Demon is town and they are killed then there are literally no connections to draw upon or to do further inquiries upon. We can’t see who talked to them, who may have slipped in a conversation, etc. It’s essentially null and meaningless. If they are scum then we are one step closer to victory, but have gained no further information from them. Concerning Sweet & Ghug, “he could just as easily be floundering town.” Explain the red flag that I have identified from Page 11-12 to me.

I probably shouldn’t respond to this. I won’t unless someone with actual merit for accusing me asks. So if anyone but ND wants a answer, I will give it.

[ND]

I skimmed the rest of this pot of shit

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Yeah, so there is a lot to unpack here on 23. I’ll just make a general comment instead of replying to someone in specific.

A) If you believe Will is town then you are willing to accept that he is just a ‘new town player’ who is in way over his head. He doesn’t understand the game. He contradicts himself. Doesn’t know what a vote is or who is voting for him. He thinks people who post a lot are town and those who don’t are mafia. He is essentially clueless. You have to be willing to make those assumptions. These assumptions overlook one large red flag from Page 11-12 though.

B) When Will began to post today, earlier, on 11-12 he singled Macca out and said they were scum? Why? Who knows, but he contradicts himself on it and he walks it back. Macca becomes someone on the 'radar.' Never giving any kind of clear answer in the moment. This reeks as someone trying to hide or obfuscate the situation. It's something that is unexplainable. I think he accidently called out a team mate and is trying to bury that fact and walk it back. If he is new town, then why not just say, "hey I made a mistake. I'm new. What's a scum. What do I need to do to help the town win? Please can someone explain the rules to me?" He only starts to do this later when he gets pressure.

I’ll remind you all that this is not a guessing game. This is a reading comprehension game. And to answer Will, “why not kill the person who would contribute the LEAST to a town victory” how do you know this? Voting for someone who hasn’t posted is pretty anti-town behavior. If Demon is town and they are killed then there are literally no connections to draw upon or to do further inquiries upon. We can’t see who talked to them, who may have slipped in a conversation, etc. It’s essentially null and meaningless. If they are scum then we are one step closer to victory, but have gained no further information from them. Concerning Sweet & Ghug, “he could just as easily be floundering town.” Explain the red flag that I have identified from Page 11-12 to me.

I probably shouldn’t respond to this. I won’t unless someone with actual merit for accusing me asks. So if anyone but ND wants a answer, I will give it.

ND i don’t even think you are mafia. These are such bold claims that only a townie with nothing to lose could do this.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I skimmed the rest of this pot of shit

I’d like to ask. After you confronted me about the Macca POTENTIAL mafia thing, what do you think would have been the best course of action?

[ND]

There is a veritable gold mine of exchanges going on with different people right now. I'll wade into a few other things and let my case on Will sit for the night. Plus, I got a movie I want to watch and need to chill before I lose my freaking mind.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I skimmed the rest of this pot of shit

I’d like to ask. After you confronted me about the Macca POTENTIAL mafia thing, what do you think would have been the best course of action?

Can you respond real quick? I am not trying to antagonize you with this I am genuinely trying to change the way I play so this doens’t happen again.

[ND]

I skimmed the rest of this pot of shit

I’d like to ask. After you confronted me about the Macca POTENTIAL mafia thing, what do you think would have been the best course of action?

See above, if you are truly new town and have no freaking clue about the game you could have said any number of things. I outlined many potential responses in my post on this page. Instead, you walked it back, said contradictory things, and tried to bury the connection you made with Macca. That reeks to me and nothing you have said convinces me that it was anything other than a slip.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I skimmed the rest of this pot of shit

I’d like to ask. After you confronted me about the Macca POTENTIAL mafia thing, what do you think would have been the best course of action?

See above, if you are truly new town and have no freaking clue about the game you could have said any number of things. I outlined many potential responses in my post on this page. Instead, you walked it back, said contradictory things, and tried to bury the connection you made with Macca. That reeks to me and nothing you have said convinces me that it was anything other than a slip.

Alright, thanks.

[sweetandcool]

Actually maybe sweet is scum.

I'm happy to keep the is sweetandcool town or Mafia tradition alive.

But what's pinging you?

The paranoia you're trying to display feels fake and I don't think you'd take what ND is saying about Will seriously if you were town.

Yes, that's a valid concern. I think, however, that you are overestimating just how seriously I am taking ND.

I've made a comment or two indicating that I essentially felt how (I think) you feel.

Psychologically speaking, Will is probably Town. But they have been so staggeringly incomprehensible to me that I think there is a small chance ND could actually be right.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I’d like to ask. After you confronted me about the Macca POTENTIAL mafia thing, what do you think would have been the best course of action?

See above, if you are truly new town and have no freaking clue about the game you could have said any number of things. I outlined many potential responses in my post on this page. Instead, you walked it back, said contradictory things, and tried to bury the connection you made with Macca. That reeks to me and nothing you have said convinces me that it was anything other than a slip.

Alright, thanks.

This is so infuriating because there really is no way to prove that I am in fact a stupid townie, and not some mafia.

I wish I had my greeting card from last round.

[ND]

movie time

[sweetandcool]

How experienced is Sweet? With ND specifically?

I started playing on M78 I think. So a little experienced. My first game with ND was the mini that ran just before this game.

[sweetandcool]

I mean, he deflected a really tiny ask, and already has been starting wagons on loose pretenses. He is still on HB and it was just in response to a shitpost about me not shitposting enough, and Bona has been shitposting more than anyone, it just strikes me as odd. I like shitposts as much as the next guy, and have done my fair share, but I have also been trying to help solve the game as well, I asked him to play the game for a second, he said no. I'm not committing to him ride or die, but I'd be happy losing him and he is as scummy as anyone imo

It's typical of Bona. I consider it NAI.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Yeah, so there is a lot to unpack here on 23. I’ll just make a general comment instead of replying to someone in specific.

A) If you believe Will is town then you are willing to accept that he is just a ‘new town player’ who is in way over his head. He doesn’t understand the game. He contradicts himself. Doesn’t know what a vote is or who is voting for him. He thinks people who post a lot are town and those who don’t are mafia. He is essentially clueless. You have to be willing to make those assumptions. These assumptions overlook one large red flag from Page 11-12 though.

B) When Will began to post today, earlier, on 11-12 he singled Macca out and said they were scum? Why? Who knows, but he contradicts himself on it and he walks it back. Macca becomes someone on the 'radar.' Never giving any kind of clear answer in the moment. This reeks as someone trying to hide or obfuscate the situation. It's something that is unexplainable. I think he accidently called out a team mate and is trying to bury that fact and walk it back. If he is new town, then why not just say, "hey I made a mistake. I'm new. What's a scum. What do I need to do to help the town win? Please can someone explain the rules to me?" He only starts to do this later when he gets pressure.

I’ll remind you all that this is not a guessing game. This is a reading comprehension game. And to answer Will, “why not kill the person who would contribute the LEAST to a town victory” how do you know this? Voting for someone who hasn’t posted is pretty anti-town behavior. If Demon is town and they are killed then there are literally no connections to draw upon or to do further inquiries upon. We can’t see who talked to them, who may have slipped in a conversation, etc. It’s essentially null and meaningless. If they are scum then we are one step closer to victory, but have gained no further information from them. Concerning Sweet & Ghug, “he could just as easily be floundering town.” Explain the red flag that I have identified from Page 11-12 to me.

Now that ND is watching a movie and I can text in peace, here goes.

A) I have played mafia before. Usually games start with a night kill. Usually games don’t have a day 1 kill. Usually games don’t have items. Usually games have 8-10 players, not 17. I am truly a clueless townie and you are starkly overestimating my abilities.

B) I didn’t mean anything of it. Macca, I apologize for the message. It didn’t really mean anything other than you could be the mafia. I don’t really know how else to put it. I’m sorry.

C) This is true. But if Demon continues to be silent, that is one potential town that won’t be campaigning against a mafia because: they won’t be campaigning against anyone. I removed my vote from Demon because I agree with your take. But don’t pretend like my take didn’t at least have a little merit.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Yeah, so there is a lot to unpack here on 23. I’ll just make a general comment instead of replying to someone in specific.

A) If you believe Will is town then you are willing to accept that he is just a ‘new town player’ who is in way over his head. He doesn’t understand the game. He contradicts himself. Doesn’t know what a vote is or who is voting for him. He thinks people who post a lot are town and those who don’t are mafia. He is essentially clueless. You have to be willing to make those assumptions. These assumptions overlook one large red flag from Page 11-12 though.

B) When Will began to post today, earlier, on 11-12 he singled Macca out and said they were scum? Why? Who knows, but he contradicts himself on it and he walks it back. Macca becomes someone on the 'radar.' Never giving any kind of clear answer in the moment. This reeks as someone trying to hide or obfuscate the situation. It's something that is unexplainable. I think he accidently called out a team mate and is trying to bury that fact and walk it back. If he is new town, then why not just say, "hey I made a mistake. I'm new. What's a scum. What do I need to do to help the town win? Please can someone explain the rules to me?" He only starts to do this later when he gets pressure.

I’ll remind you all that this is not a guessing game. This is a reading comprehension game. And to answer Will, “why not kill the person who would contribute the LEAST to a town victory” how do you know this? Voting for someone who hasn’t posted is pretty anti-town behavior. If Demon is town and they are killed then there are literally no connections to draw upon or to do further inquiries upon. We can’t see who talked to them, who may have slipped in a conversation, etc. It’s essentially null and meaningless. If they are scum then we are one step closer to victory, but have gained no further information from them. Concerning Sweet & Ghug, “he could just as easily be floundering town.” Explain the red flag that I have identified from Page 11-12 to me.

Now that ND is watching a movie and I can text in peace, here goes.

A) I have played mafia before. Usually games start with a night kill. Usually games don’t have a day 1 kill. Usually games don’t have items. Usually games have 8-10 players, not 17. I am truly a clueless townie and you are starkly overestimating my abilities.

B) I didn’t mean anything of it. Macca, I apologize for the message. It didn’t really mean anything other than you could be the mafia. I don’t really know how else to put it. I’m sorry.

C) This is true. But if Demon continues to be silent, that is one potential town that won’t be campaigning against a mafia because: they won’t be campaigning against anyone. I removed my vote from Demon because I agree with your take. But don’t pretend like my take didn’t at least have a little merit.

Meant to say: I haven’t played “this mafia” before.

[Hamilton Brian]

Just a little community service for us in case it's forgotten.

2x BLOODY AXE
- 2x SLUTTY NURSE COSTUME*
- 2x SKELETAL ARMOUR
- REPLACEMENT SKULL
- ELECTRO-SHIELD*
- BADASS MOTORCYCLE COVERED IN FLAMES
- POWER PILL
- SLIME GRENADE
- MASK and SWAG BAG (one set)
- HALLOWEEN GREETINGS CARD*
- BIG PLASTIC SCYTHE
- DETECTIVE KIT*
- STICKY TOFFEE!
- REPAIR KIT
- CANDY HEART

ORDER OF NIGHT ACTIONS:

1. All roleblocking actions
2. Candy Heart choice
3. Mask theft
4. Motorcycle
5. Detective Kit / Card Visit / Power Pill
6. All killing actions
7. All saving actions
8. Repair Kit

[Hamilton Brian]

Brain seems to often crumb stuff. But I never know how to read for crumbs, so...

[Bonatogether]

Just a little community service for us in case it's forgotten.

2x BLOODY AXE
- 2x SLUTTY NURSE COSTUME*
- 2x SKELETAL ARMOUR
- REPLACEMENT SKULL
- ELECTRO-SHIELD*
- BADASS MOTORCYCLE COVERED IN FLAMES
- POWER PILL
- SLIME GRENADE
- MASK and SWAG BAG (one set)
- HALLOWEEN GREETINGS CARD*
- BIG PLASTIC SCYTHE
- DETECTIVE KIT*
- STICKY TOFFEE!
- REPAIR KIT
- CANDY HEART

ORDER OF NIGHT ACTIONS:

1. All roleblocking actions
2. Candy Heart choice
3. Mask theft
4. Motorcycle
5. Detective Kit / Card Visit / Power Pill
6. All killing actions
7. All saving actions
8. Repair Kit

why did you do this