MAFIA 83: HALLOWE'EN IN THE TOYSHOP - GAME THREAD

[ND]

I could see macca being the mafia. Idk i’ve never played with them before.

No shit. Didn't you say that you never played before in the last game??? Why are they scum?

Again, not saying they are my #1 read. Just saying that I have no inclination that they could or could not be scum.

This is not what you said originally though??

[ND]

WOW

Little Willie here just STRAIGHT UP STATES, "Sorry for my intense lack of talking."

Little Willie then tells us about what he was doing with his boyfriends.

Little Willie then says and this is huge right here, "I scumread the people that haven't talked."

LOL WTF?

Little Willie then states, "A lack of effort is not helpful tot the town."

Massive NAUGHTY read on this guy. That post tells me everything I need to know.

##Vote JustAGuyNamedWill

Willie is new, and I think new people tend to say weird things like this. I'll confess, I definitely chuckled when he apologized for not talking and then followed up immediately by stating he was scumreading people who hadn't talked.

He probably just meant that at the end of the day he'd vote for a non-poster, which is fair enough.

I feel dumb right now. I was so tired i just wanted to get my posting in so I couldn’t be caught as a nonposter, which I thought was a bad thing. Idk the nonposters have less votes then me

Why are you concerned with posting so much? Why do you need to get your quote, "posting in." Is the amount of times you post important to you? If so, why?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Why'd you choose to say this when you've never played with any of us?

I meant to imply that he/she wasn’t off my radar. Not that she was my number 1 choice.

Oh I see so when you literally freaking said, "I could see macca being mafia" you meant to say that (paraphrase), 'they are on my radar.'

Really??? Total BS post.

That’s what it literally means. If someone is on my radar, it means I could see them as mafia. Doesn’t mean they are my #1. Demon is bc he has not been posting.

[bozotheclown]

I'll ##vote Demon as the only non-poster

Non posting is detrimental to the good toys. If a day 1 vote MUST happen, then i may vote demon later

Unless further information comes out or something new arises:

##VOTE DEMON

RHK is obviously town.

[Hamilton Brian]

@sweet, I am still not getting what you're on about. You're swirling around the edges as if that supports your assertion.

I'm dropping it and done interacting around it. If you're town, you will too. Vote me, but keep looking elsewhere.

I will suggest the wagon on me is lazy, opportunistic, and disgenuous.

I was feeling the same way, though I don't get what you don't get. Oh well.

I'm always wary about people eagerly hopping on a wagon, but maybe they've seen how consistently correct I am about you in regards to the type of posts you like to make as scum.

Please don't let this prideful moment be the accelerant for your own hubris; you remember what it caused Oedipus to do.

[SpiritoftheRadio]

Anyone else notice that Spirit has been noticeably absent since "Edit-gate?" Why is that? Did it attract too much attention and need to lay low?

HAHA I literally slept. People reading this as scummy immediately afterward is also hilarious. This would be the highlight of the 200 posts I just read if ND hadnt both chastised me and acknowledged that I made him laugh.

Here are some fast-ish reads:

slight town - I dont think HB or Will are scum, they seem like townies gaffing about town. Townies do stupid shit, thats what makes them townies. It is a way to compensate for not having any roles/items that simulate their monkey brains towards self preservation.

slight scum - Macca is a bit more interesting since their posts are just kind of blanket nice... while I feel bad about reading that as scummy, it does ping something in my bones that says "seems sus, sally"

Slight town - Bozo has been both correct and helpful in his brief posts, I like that. Although in rereading my previous games (which I did very quickly), he always got early sus due to something dumb so this is a change, but one that probably makes sense because he has had a lot of time to grow.

Null - Brain, I remember from before that I can never read him, and until something concrete comes out, its probably going to stay null. I am also easily entertained by shit posts and conspiracies, and daddy brain provides.

Null - I also dont want to kill rdr or worcej since them not being here makes these kills lack honor and chest hair

slight scum - Bona and Sweet, they both jumped on HB which is funny but mostly not my cup of tea since HB's comment wasnt the type of thing that could ever start a wagon on me, and even he knew that and didnt vote for me. like that they're both talking and doing some light hunting but I could see one or both as try hard scum jumping on a loose pretense to make a wagon happen.

Slight town - Ghug, "oh gee guys ghug is ghug"

Slight town - ND, step on me pls OwO (also for actually calling people on inconsistencies, having some decent takes, and doesn't seem to be wagon building to me)

Slight scum - Vecna, his brief posts struck me as a little too nice kind of like Macca, but with the extra added thing that I remember playing with him before and know he lurks and at this point probably knows how to under the radar by just checking in and shooting the shit. It may just be his meta, but it also gives me bad feels.

Slight town/null - Dar gave some basic reads, I didnt hate them.

Slight scum - Damo, just not a fan of the behavior of barely posting anything but voting around, especially on people who havent posted as tho that will actually get them to post. Idk, I get the sense it is a meta since no one is calling it out, but it is one of those things that isnt helpful to town imo and still gives the illusion of hunting and being a part of the convo. Just strikes me as scummy.

Null - Kak hasnt posted since the opening BS and DemonRHK hasnt at all, I want them to post more pls.

I'd be pretty happy voting any of my scum reads, and I probably will later on today.

[Hamilton Brian]

Deleting the wall post.

Well done. My job here is done. You passed.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Anyone else notice that Spirit has been noticeably absent since "Edit-gate?" Why is that? Did it attract too much attention and need to lay low?

HAHA I literally slept. People reading this as scummy immediately afterward is also hilarious. This would be the highlight of the 200 posts I just read if ND hadnt both chastised me and acknowledged that I made him laugh.

Here are some fast-ish reads:

slight town - I dont think HB or Will are scum, they seem like townies gaffing about town. Townies do stupid shit, thats what makes them townies. It is a way to compensate for not having any roles/items that simulate their monkey brains towards self preservation.

slight scum - Macca is a bit more interesting since their posts are just kind of blanket nice... while I feel bad about reading that as scummy, it does ping something in my bones that says "seems sus, sally"

Slight town - Bozo has been both correct and helpful in his brief posts, I like that. Although in rereading my previous games (which I did very quickly), he always got early sus due to something dumb so this is a change, but one that probably makes sense because he has had a lot of time to grow.

Null - Brain, I remember from before that I can never read him, and until something concrete comes out, its probably going to stay null. I am also easily entertained by shit posts and conspiracies, and daddy brain provides.

Null - I also dont want to kill rdr or worcej since them not being here makes these kills lack honor and chest hair

slight scum - Bona and Sweet, they both jumped on HB which is funny but mostly not my cup of tea since HB's comment wasnt the type of thing that could ever start a wagon on me, and even he knew that and didnt vote for me. like that they're both talking and doing some light hunting but I could see one or both as try hard scum jumping on a loose pretense to make a wagon happen.

Slight town - Ghug, "oh gee guys ghug is ghug"

Slight town - ND, step on me pls OwO (also for actually calling people on inconsistencies, having some decent takes, and doesn't seem to be wagon building to me)

Slight scum - Vecna, his brief posts struck me as a little too nice kind of like Macca, but with the extra added thing that I remember playing with him before and know he lurks and at this point probably knows how to under the radar by just checking in and shooting the shit. It may just be his meta, but it also gives me bad feels.

Slight town/null - Dar gave some basic reads, I didnt hate them.

Slight scum - Damo, just not a fan of the behavior of barely posting anything but voting around, especially on people who havent posted as tho that will actually get them to post. Idk, I get the sense it is a meta since no one is calling it out, but it is one of those things that isnt helpful to town imo and still gives the illusion of hunting and being a part of the convo. Just strikes me as scummy.

Null - Kak hasnt posted since the opening BS and DemonRHK hasnt at all, I want them to post more pls.

I'd be pretty happy voting any of my scum reads, and I probably will later on today.

Thank you for calling me an unstimulated monkey brain.

[SpiritoftheRadio]

@HB and Will

I meant it with peace and love, my little monkies <3

Also my read of ghug was mostly a meme to get ND's fire lit, he also jumped on HB with a meta pretense I assume given his reply to sweet, but his other posts have been kind of helpful, I suppose. probably a null or maybe a slight scum read on ghug, idk

[Bonatogether]

Unless further information comes out or something new arises:

##VOTE DEMON

previous posts are uninteresting to you?

They are not uninteresting, but i need more time. Demon is my vote until we decide on what is scummy or not.

you will never have more information than the present

[ND]

A couple of things before I move on from Page 17/18.

Ghug, if it makes you feel good or important to remind us about your values, tournament play (which Brain brought up first) or whatever then by all means remind us. If you want to be Captain Carebear then be Captain Carebear. Now, if you think for a minute that I’m not going to comment on something like that then you are very mistaken. I’ll comment on whatever I want to comment on.

Next and more importantly, we will examine the reaction to Will. The reactions from Ghug to Sweet are interesting in different ways. Ghug, after going on one of his holier than thou crusades against me comments directly on something Will said. In his comment he is like, paraphrasing, ‘oh don’t get down.’ This is followed by a line of questioning in which he asks for Will’s broader thoughts. This is good. The more Will talks the better imo. Contrast this reaction with Sweet.

Minutes later, Sweet makes a similar post. Paraphrasing, ‘oh gee don’t beat yourself up.’ What is interesting in this statement is that, a) Sweet doesn’t really follow up on Will’s desire to project an image. Will directly says he doesn’t want to be “caught” as a nonposter. This reflects the desire of a player to project an image or to stand out in some way. Why or where did he get this idea that he had to make a lot of posts? Plenty of people don’t post much D1 or maybe offer a few but substantially quality posts/observations. I find the exchange problematic. B) He then chastises Will and tells him, paraphrasing, ‘not to be worried yet.’ Unlike Ghug he really doesn’t follow up at all or even make a token effort to question Will. This is something worth noting.

[Bonatogether]

Non posting is detrimental to the good toys. If a day 1 vote MUST happen, then i may vote demon later

Unless further information comes out or something new arises:

##VOTE DEMON

RHK is obviously town.

something something jokey bozo scum bozo

[brainbomb]

captain carebear? wtf lol

[Bonatogether]

Deleting the wall post.

Well done. My job here is done. You passed.

you're so deeply scum

[Bonatogether]

captain carebear? wtf lol

it was funny

[sweetandcool]

A couple of things before I move on from Page 17/18.

Ghug, if it makes you feel good or important to remind us about your values, tournament play (which Brain brought up first) or whatever then by all means remind us. If you want to be Captain Carebear then be Captain Carebear. Now, if you think for a minute that I’m not going to comment on something like that then you are very mistaken. I’ll comment on whatever I want to comment on.

Next and more importantly, we will examine the reaction to Will. The reactions from Ghug to Sweet are interesting in different ways. Ghug, after going on one of his holier than thou crusades against me comments directly on something Will said. In his comment he is like, paraphrasing, ‘oh don’t get down.’ This is followed by a line of questioning in which he asks for Will’s broader thoughts. This is good. The more Will talks the better imo. Contrast this reaction with Sweet.

Minutes later, Sweet makes a similar post. Paraphrasing, ‘oh gee don’t beat yourself up.’ What is interesting in this statement is that, a) Sweet doesn’t really follow up on Will’s desire to project an image. Will directly says he doesn’t want to be “caught” as a nonposter. This reflects the desire of a player to project an image or to stand out in some way. Why or where did he get this idea that he had to make a lot of posts? Plenty of people don’t post much D1 or maybe offer a few but substantially quality posts/observations. I find the exchange problematic. B) He then chastises Will and tells him, paraphrasing, ‘not to be worried yet.’ Unlike Ghug he really doesn’t follow up at all or even make a token effort to question Will. This is something worth noting.

I've been criticized for that in previous games. Sometimes I follow up, sometimes I mentally shrug and/or think about the reply given, rather than hounding for more info.

Will has consistently been pretty nonsensical, as evidenced by their replies to your questioning. So I haven't felt compelled to push them hard for a response.

Please note they've completely ignored some of my questions, and I haven't pushed them to answer, so you can add that to your evidence against me.

[TheMadMonarch]

Thanks BB

And dang, people have legit mafia resumes now! I would brag about my abilities at playing social deduction games, but webdip and dating apps have both taught me that my charm doesn't always translate to text lol

I think it has a lot to do with that I smell good. And as a man in a physics department, that isn't a trivial thing. I think it would do a lot for my game if you all could just try to imagine a guy who smells good while you read my posts, because I do :)

Will do!

I trust you more already.

Why??? Such a meaningless statement. 'Oh, geez guys! I trust you!' Bullshit. Meaningless.

It was sarcastic? Did you read what its replying to?

This is just one in a list that makes me have to ask, what are you on?

[TheMadMonarch]

I assume you've done a quick readthrough.

Anything ping you yet?

I've scanned the day but I need to do another focused look.

Focussing is for people who can... I forgot where this sentence was going...

brainbomb strikes me as very slightly sus. Which is a lot, cause normally I'd back him all the way.

also ghug. but thats... ghug.

What about Brainbomb is sus? Why mention Ghug? What relevance does this post actually have? Other than the appearance of a post? Zero content followed by your other scum oozed statements and light hearted fishing attempts against the alleged body builder (which I doubt) btw.

'Macca, do reads! Macca, These reads are shit!'

What do you want from me? That's what I've got, and warned you about?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

A couple of things before I move on from Page 17/18.

Ghug, if it makes you feel good or important to remind us about your values, tournament play (which Brain brought up first) or whatever then by all means remind us. If you want to be Captain Carebear then be Captain Carebear. Now, if you think for a minute that I’m not going to comment on something like that then you are very mistaken. I’ll comment on whatever I want to comment on.

Next and more importantly, we will examine the reaction to Will. The reactions from Ghug to Sweet are interesting in different ways. Ghug, after going on one of his holier than thou crusades against me comments directly on something Will said. In his comment he is like, paraphrasing, ‘oh don’t get down.’ This is followed by a line of questioning in which he asks for Will’s broader thoughts. This is good. The more Will talks the better imo. Contrast this reaction with Sweet.

Minutes later, Sweet makes a similar post. Paraphrasing, ‘oh gee don’t beat yourself up.’ What is interesting in this statement is that, a) Sweet doesn’t really follow up on Will’s desire to project an image. Will directly says he doesn’t want to be “caught” as a nonposter. This reflects the desire of a player to project an image or to stand out in some way. Why or where did he get this idea that he had to make a lot of posts? Plenty of people don’t post much D1 or maybe offer a few but substantially quality posts/observations. I find the exchange problematic. B) He then chastises Will and tells him, paraphrasing, ‘not to be worried yet.’ Unlike Ghug he really doesn’t follow up at all or even make a token effort to question Will. This is something worth noting.

Couple things. First and foremost:

Posting and information makes the game fun. Non talkers take up room and contribute nothing.

Second: because of the circumstances of my friends wanting to play a game, I was worried that my lack of posting would get me voted off day 1. Even as a townie, playing is fun, and I want to contribute to the twin winning.

Third: question me all you want. I will respond. I want to reveal information because more information= higher chance of a town win.

[ND]

Some other observations from Page 18. I would like to see @Darg elaborate a bit more on his reads. Idk what is going on with Bona, Sweet, and Hamilton towards the end of 18.

As for Will's posts on 18, they are intellectually bankrupt. Just because someone posts a lot doesn't make them town and just because someone is a low frequency poster doesn't make them mafia. This is a reading comprehension game not a post counting game. I really feel like he is just using this as a crutch to try and ride out the day. This added to his other comments, contradictions, etc., really makes me think that he is just floundering scum.