M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

[bozotheclown]

I wish I could remember. Want to give me the context of time?

Was this a response to me?

[bozotheclown]

At 55 minutes to 25 minutes D1 EOD, there was a 4 way tie between ND, Hamilton Brian, Jamie, and sweetandcool, which means the 2 mafia were tied for the lead.

HB broke the tie with this:

Going to push a little here.

There's no basis to any of these votes. No gut, nothing.

So, let it rip.

##Vote ND to get out of tie-ville.

However, when ND and Jamie became tied at 3, HB posted this:

So damo, if I'm not getting flashed...which of jamie or ND is more mafia-esque? I can't really tell?

As I have said previously, this seems like HB was trying to get damo to convince him to vote for Jamie, because damo had already stated his preference:

Find me a game where Town Damo was super active on D1...

I didn't say I expected him to be active - I said I expected more from him because of the shortened game

You will when we have more to go on.

I would prefer Ham to sweet but sweet is Ok. I do not want an ND vote today.

Very early doors but I think the pair are in {sweer, Ham, worcej, Jamie}.

I thought ND came across as town making an effort early on although easily faked.

I'm not enamoured with either lead wagon tbh.

Anybody want to revert to Ham with me?

Then, damo changed his vote to HB, brainbomb changed his vote to Jamie, and the vote was tied between ND and HB at 3. At that point, HB as mafia would have been stuck, because there was nothing he could do to prevent himself or ND from being the DK.

In summary, although HB voted for ND at 25 minutes until EOD to break the tie, it looks like we was willing to move to Jamie to break the tie if damo had said to, and for the last 4 minutes did not have the option.

[bozotheclown]

If Jamie or sweetandcool are town, 5 out of the 6 town players ended D1 voting for mafia. If HB is mafia, 3 out of the 6 town players ended D1 voting for mafia.

Although it would be nice if it was 5 out of 6, that does not seem as likely.

[Jamiet99uk]

Can we hammer the night please?

I am opposed to hammers.

Excuse me??

You hammered Worcej, you twit.

[Jamiet99uk]

Was that sarcasm, Bozo?

[bozotheclown]

HB was willing to vote for any of his 3 scum reads D2:

It's a weird situation. I am stuck thinking the remaining mafia is in this pool of damo worcej sweet.

Right now gut is saying ##vote damo

Just waking up.

Looking at the fact that I am voting with my pool makes me question everything. I don't like it. Let me retract and move over to ##vote sweet for now.

The tenacity of the argument and being town-clear makes it a clear jump.

##vote worcej

worcej and sweetandcool were already voting for damo when HB voted for damo, which makes his reason for changing his vote to sweetandcool seem questionable.

[bozotheclown]

Was that sarcasm, Bozo?

It was meant as a joke.

[bozotheclown]

Can we hammer the night please?

I think I have only played one previous game with sweetandcool, and apparently there is no reference for him as mafia, but I would be surprised if he is mafia this game. His explanation for the discrepancies in his town slips seem reasonable. For instance, reading the factional roleblock as a roleblocker seems plausible, and sweetandcool's posts D1 are consistent with him thinking there were 3 mafia except for not pickup up on my 25% random chance, which is minor. Also, I think he meant to ask if the doctor should claim so that we would know who he protected, not realizing that the doctor save would be notified, I don't think he meant to ask if the doctor and the doctor's save should claim independently as a fake town slip.

I am more concerned that you could have been hard bussing ND D1, but I think it is more likely ND and HB were bussing each other.

[sweetandcool]

Can we hammer the night please?

I think I have only played one previous game with sweetandcool, and apparently there is no reference for him as mafia, but I would be surprised if he is mafia this game. His explanation for the discrepancies in his town slips seem reasonable. For instance, reading the factional roleblock as a roleblocker seems plausible, and sweetandcool's posts D1 are consistent with him thinking there were 3 mafia except for not pickup up on my 25% random chance, which is minor. Also, I think he meant to ask if the doctor should claim so that we would know who he protected, not realizing that the doctor save would be notified, I don't think he meant to ask if the doctor and the doctor's save should claim independently as a fake town slip.

I am more concerned that you could have been hard bussing ND D1, but I think it is more likely ND and HB were bussing each other.

This is precisely the case. Otherwise I would have just skipped to asking that the person who was saved claim.

There was no reason for the doctor to claim, except I thought they needed to tell us who was saved.

[Hamilton Brian]

Boze, you've done a nice job of constructing a narrative of me as mafia. Sweet, well done. You've convinced bozo. I am not sure if you've convinced jamie.

Interesting how your D1 vote isn't getting the same level of scrutiny.

[sweetandcool]

Boze, you've done a nice job of constructing a narrative of me as mafia. Sweet, well done. You've convinced bozo. I am not sure if you've convinced jamie.

Interesting how your D1 vote isn't getting the same level of scrutiny.

@Jamiet

Does this post have an extremely scummy sheen or is it just me?

Also, I'd love if anyone can dredge up a post where I even expend any effort trying to convince Bozo of my alignment, because I can't even think of a single post.

I've attempted to convince Jamiet a bit, but I haven't even made my case yet.

[sweetandcool]

Boze, you've done a nice job of constructing a narrative of me as mafia. Sweet, well done. You've convinced bozo. I am not sure if you've convinced jamie.

Interesting how your D1 vote isn't getting the same level of scrutiny.

I'm still going to work on providing a case for my innocence, but can't you see Ham is scum here, Jamiet?

This was a completely inorganic statement, it has to come from Mafia. Any slight doubt I had had been eliminated. Ham is Mafia.

[Jamiet99uk]

Was that sarcasm, Bozo?

It was meant as a joke.

Oh.

My sides.

[Jamiet99uk]

Boze, you've done a nice job of constructing a narrative of me as mafia. Sweet, well done. You've convinced bozo. I am not sure if you've convinced jamie.

Interesting how your D1 vote isn't getting the same level of scrutiny.

@Jamiet

Does this post have an extremely scummy sheen or is it just me?

Also, I'd love if anyone can dredge up a post where I even expend any effort trying to convince Bozo of my alignment, because I can't even think of a single post.

I've attempted to convince Jamiet a bit, but I haven't even made my case yet.

HB's post has a defensive tone,.but then Bozo is pressing a case on him so I'd be defensive too.

[Jamiet99uk]

Boze, you've done a nice job of constructing a narrative of me as mafia. Sweet, well done. You've convinced bozo. I am not sure if you've convinced jamie.

Interesting how your D1 vote isn't getting the same level of scrutiny.

I'm still going to work on providing a case for my innocence, but can't you see Ham is scum here, Jamiet?

This was a completely inorganic statement, it has to come from Mafia. Any slight doubt I had had been eliminated. Ham is Mafia.

I do not react to that post as strongly as you appear to do.

[Jamiet99uk]

My primary suspect is still Sweet.

I don't wish to discuss it further until daybreak.

[Jamiet99uk]

I will say:

Only one person is still alive, who did not vote ND on D1.

[sweetandcool]

My primary suspect is still Sweet.

I don't wish to discuss it further until daybreak.

One thing that would be helpful is if you listed all the reasons you suspect me.

As far as I know, the main reasons are:

1. The multitude of "fake" townships.
2. Two apparent contradictions (doctor and saved) (something else I don't recall right now.
3. Not voting ND?
4. Not engaged as much as normal?

I know 1. And 2. are true. Are 3. and 4. factors?

Is there anything I'm missing?

[Jamiet99uk]

My primary suspect is still Sweet.

I don't wish to discuss it further until daybreak.

One thing that would be helpful is if you listed all the reasons you suspect me.

As far as I know, the main reasons are:

1. The multitude of "fake" townships.
2. Two apparent contradictions (doctor and saved) (something else I don't recall right now.
3. Not voting ND?
4. Not engaged as much as normal?

I know 1. And 2. are true. Are 3. and 4. factors?

Is there anything I'm missing?

Hello.

Items 1 and 2 are the main causes for my suspicion.

The second example in (2) was whether or not you knew the number of Mafia in play.

Items 3 and 4 are very much secondary.

There is another quite significant factor but I don't want to talk about it at night.

[Jamiet99uk]

I have put in my hammer and it has been acknowledged by the GMs.