M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

[bozotheclown]

At the risk of looking like a bandwagoner, I think I'll ##VOTE Jamiet as well.

I've felt the worst about them and Ham.

Still not sure about you, brainbomb <_<

Why did you suspect Jamie D1?

Jamiet was all flavour and no real contribution.

I think his only real contribution (which we didn't know was helpful until after ND flipped), was him calling out ND for sounding fake.

Otherwise, what did he really do?

Maybe I'll appreciate him more when I read up on him tomorrow, but that is how I felt then.

This post is why I thought Jamie was town D1, because he was questioning the same post that I found suspicious:

##Vote Hamilton

I like Ham as a wagon, but I am suspicious of a few people on the wagon.

There were three other people on the Hamilton Brian wagon when you said this.

Your use of "a few" seems to be a statement that you suspect more than one of them, but not all three.

Which of sweetandcool, damo666, and bozotheclown do you not suspect?

Why do you suspect the other two?

Also, this post is the primary reason I do not think it is very likely Jamie was bussing ND D1, because it does not make sense to actively try to get your only mafia teammate DKed D1.

[sweetandcool]

Why did you suspect Jamie D1?

Jamiet was all flavour and no real contribution.

I think his only real contribution (which we didn't know was helpful until after ND flipped), was him calling out ND for sounding fake.

Otherwise, what did he really do?

Maybe I'll appreciate him more when I read up on him tomorrow, but that is how I felt then.

This post is why I thought Jamie was town D1, because he was questioning the same post that I found suspicious:

##Vote Hamilton

I like Ham as a wagon, but I am suspicious of a few people on the wagon.

There were three other people on the Hamilton Brian wagon when you said this.

Your use of "a few" seems to be a statement that you suspect more than one of them, but not all three.

Which of sweetandcool, damo666, and bozotheclown do you not suspect?

Why do you suspect the other two?

Also, this post is the primary reason I do not think it is very likely Jamie was bussing ND D1, because it does not make sense to actively try to get your only mafia teammate DKed D1.

Hmmm, interesting. I'm assuming nothing Jamie has done since D1 has changed your opinion of them?

So is your case on worcej more based on PoE? It seems like you are deciding between worcej and sweetandcool right now.

[bozotheclown]

Jamiet was all flavour and no real contribution.

I think his only real contribution (which we didn't know was helpful until after ND flipped), was him calling out ND for sounding fake.

Otherwise, what did he really do?

Maybe I'll appreciate him more when I read up on him tomorrow, but that is how I felt then.

This post is why I thought Jamie was town D1, because he was questioning the same post that I found suspicious:

There were three other people on the Hamilton Brian wagon when you said this.

Your use of "a few" seems to be a statement that you suspect more than one of them, but not all three.

Which of sweetandcool, damo666, and bozotheclown do you not suspect?

Why do you suspect the other two?

Also, this post is the primary reason I do not think it is very likely Jamie was bussing ND D1, because it does not make sense to actively try to get your only mafia teammate DKed D1.

Hmmm, interesting. I'm assuming nothing Jamie has done since D1 has changed your opinion of them?

So is your case on worcej more based on PoE? It seems like you are deciding between worcej and sweetandcool right now.

No, I think Jamie has generally seemed like town since D1 as well.

I also think it is very likely you are town as well. One reason is your first post, which is consistent with you thinking there were 2 mafia in a subtle enough way that I did not notice it at the time. If does not seem likely you would make that post planning to later fake a town slip. Also, I don't think you would try to make multiple fake town slips as mafia.

Another reason why I think you are likely to be town is something damo pointed out:

Having relooked at D1 votes sweet looks less scummy than worcej.

##vote worcej

How…?…

Like, I know you don’t explain much normally, but I am curious why you think this.

sweet's move Ham - bra would be odd if partnered with ND, why not just stay on Ham?

Finally, when I looked at you and worcej N1, I concluded worcej was more likely to be mafia than you because ND's posts regarding you seemed to be more consistent with trying to set you up for a possible mis-kill than distancing from a teammate.

I know I do not need to convince you that you are town if I am correct about you being town, but this post is directed more toward Jamie, assuming he is town, and toward whichever of Hamilton Brian and worcej is town.

[bozotheclown]

Jamiet was all flavour and no real contribution.

I think his only real contribution (which we didn't know was helpful until after ND flipped), was him calling out ND for sounding fake.

Otherwise, what did he really do?

Maybe I'll appreciate him more when I read up on him tomorrow, but that is how I felt then.

This post is why I thought Jamie was town D1, because he was questioning the same post that I found suspicious:

There were three other people on the Hamilton Brian wagon when you said this.

Your use of "a few" seems to be a statement that you suspect more than one of them, but not all three.

Which of sweetandcool, damo666, and bozotheclown do you not suspect?

Why do you suspect the other two?

Also, this post is the primary reason I do not think it is very likely Jamie was bussing ND D1, because it does not make sense to actively try to get your only mafia teammate DKed D1.

Hmmm, interesting. I'm assuming nothing Jamie has done since D1 has changed your opinion of them?

So is your case on worcej more based on PoE? It seems like you are deciding between worcej and sweetandcool right now.

To answer you other question, I originally suspected worcej based significantly on POE, but I think he has looked suspicious since D1 also, specifically in the progression of his scum reads.

[bozotheclown]

@Jamie, sweetandcool, and HB: please look at worcej's only D1 vote and let me know what you think.

[Jamiet99uk]

Lol? *I* am wasting the day!?

Every one of you has said I am in POE and should be flipped. None of you believe me to be town. This day is already lost collectively by you all, you just need to have it confirmed.

Inaccurate.

Quote a post from me saying that you should be the next flip.

Go and see if you can find one.

I bet you can't.

Can’t because I am on my cell and refuse to put that effort in.

You have me in POE now. Bozo has had my head sized for the noose for 2 phases.

I explicitly stated, more than once, that I wanted to flip Sweetandcool before you.

Anyway, good morning, I am catching up.

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamie is going to come back and probably be all pissed off or something, but really I think BB had him pegged and I should’ve listened more, though it probably would have just resulted in my death on D2

Brainbomb's final posts before he died clearly named Sweetandcool as his top choice for Mafia:

also kill sweet tomorrow if I die

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamiet's post reads like a boring politician's post at the start of some dumb debate. Thanking everyone for being here.

The big difference is, I do *not* want your vote.

ND, do you still have a portrait of Tucker Carlson on your living room wall?

Using this as the first, I get the impression that most of Jamie’s interactions with ND are too “formal” and less off the cuff. He is too direct about getting ND to answer his questions without the normal frustrations we see from Jamie when the questions get ignored.

Is this sarcasm?

My question about Tucker Carlson was obviously not a real investigative question, Worcej. Again, you are being silly and insincere.

[Jamiet99uk]

##Vote Sweetandcool

Why? And what piece of bozo's dissertation on why worcej is the remaining mafia do you reject?

Do you have no idea why I suspect Sweetandcool, despite it having been discussed in minute detail by myself and Bozo in multiple posts?

Maybe you should read the game.

[Jamiet99uk]

##vote Jamie

I don’t value my life. I am traveling for work starting tomorrow and not going to do much weight pulling.

Jamie >> S&C >>>> HB is my order of likelihood on scum.

Why am I your top scum-read, and not Sweetandcool?

Do you feel strongly that Sweet's "townslips" were genuine, even though Bozo and I have repeatedly pointed out the contradictions where Sweet claimed to be unaware of things they had earlier indicated an awareness of?

If so, why have you reached that conclusion?

Also, did you notice my rebuttal of Brainbomb's swiss-cheese case on me, and, if you did, why am I still your top scum-read?

I know of only one think that sweetandcool said that could be categorized that way (whether the player saved by the doctor would be notified). Can you please tell me what other contradictions you are referring to?

Also, I think sweetandcool's explanation for the apparent contradictions I pointed out are plausible, and I otherwise think sweetandcool seems likely to be town.

You highlighted two entirely separate contradictions, both on page 26 of this game. I'm surprised you have forgotten about your own detective work.

The first one concerned whether or not someone saved by the Doctor would get a notification from the GM.

The second one concerned whether there were three Mafia or two Mafia in this setup.

[Jamiet99uk]

^ Hamilton Brian:
Go and read page 26 for information on my scumread of Sweetandcool.

[Jamiet99uk]

Also, I just realized, are there only two Mafia? I thought there were two goons and a factional roleblocker, but I'm starting to believe that is not the case.

What made you realize there were only 2 mafia? When you read the setup initially, did you not see that it said there were 5 VT?

See Bozo, you already called this out and questioned him on it, back on Page 26.

You seem to have forgotten your previous good work. Does your storage unit require defragmentation?

[Jamiet99uk]

Bozo, why aren't you voting?

[worcej]

Bozo, why aren't you voting?

You know where it is going to go lol…

[worcej]

The big difference is, I do *not* want your vote.

ND, do you still have a portrait of Tucker Carlson on your living room wall?

Using this as the first, I get the impression that most of Jamie’s interactions with ND are too “formal” and less off the cuff. He is too direct about getting ND to answer his questions without the normal frustrations we see from Jamie when the questions get ignored.

Is this sarcasm?

My question about Tucker Carlson was obviously not a real investigative question, Worcej. Again, you are being silly and insincere.

Nope, but your comment above indicates you’re not reading to understand but reading to counter.

[worcej]

Jamie is going to come back and probably be all pissed off or something, but really I think BB had him pegged and I should’ve listened more, though it probably would have just resulted in my death on D2

Brainbomb's final posts before he died clearly named Sweetandcool as his top choice for Mafia:

also kill sweet tomorrow if I die

Yep, he did say that.

He also thought you were scum at one point.

[Jamiet99uk]

Using this as the first, I get the impression that most of Jamie’s interactions with ND are too “formal” and less off the cuff. He is too direct about getting ND to answer his questions without the normal frustrations we see from Jamie when the questions get ignored.

Is this sarcasm?

My question about Tucker Carlson was obviously not a real investigative question, Worcej. Again, you are being silly and insincere.

Nope, but your comment above indicates you’re not reading to understand but reading to counter.

No. You chose that particular post as an example, and it was a very bad example of what you were trying to say.

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamie is going to come back and probably be all pissed off or something, but really I think BB had him pegged and I should’ve listened more, though it probably would have just resulted in my death on D2

Brainbomb's final posts before he died clearly named Sweetandcool as his top choice for Mafia:

also kill sweet tomorrow if I die

Yep, he did say that.

He also thought you were scum at one point.

He was wrong about at least one of those things.

I am town.

How sure are you of your scumread on me?

[Hamilton Brian]

Definitely a low energy day. This does give us some space to dig back through the four of us.

[ghug]

##CALL GM

When there is one Mafioso left, can that person carry out *both* the Factional NK *and* the Factional Roleblock?

It seems obvious the answer would be "yes" but I recall at least one previous game where a GM ruled that each Mafioso could only perform one factional action in any given night phase, so I want to be clear.

Missed this one yesterday:
A single mafia can carry out a kill and a roleblock simultaneously.