M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

[Hamilton Brian]

Are there any relevant voting patterns between D1 and D2?

Where would mafia have wanted to land on D2? Would it matter in the circumstance?

I think Mafia loved having damo voted out, particularly if Mafia was worcej.

Right; but is there anything that can be drawn dot-to-dot between D1 and D2? I am grasping here which is why I am focusing on the most obvious thing we have.

[Hamilton Brian]

Man, these guys are acting pretty town, maybe it really is Ham :/

Or very performative. Which one do you think would pull it off better, worcej or jamie? My gut says jamie.

I feel like I can read Jamiet reasonably. (why? what makes you think that? Compared to ...?)

So I feel like worcej is more likely to fool me.

And not jamie?

[bozotheclown]

Or very performative. Which one do you think would pull it off better, worcej or jamie? My gut says jamie.

I feel like I can read Jamiet reasonably.

So I feel like worcej is more likely to fool me.

Lost my post so I won't repeat it. I think we need to press this a bit further. Despite bozo's tunneling, there is a lot about worcej that is seeming town, or at least DEMANDING to be seen as town, to me. Jamie? Not so much. If we go back over both jamie and worcej's D1s and D2s, what are we left with in terms of gut?

How are you using "tunneling" here? I know worcej has been saying that, but I think he is mafia.

[sweetandcool]

Or very performative. Which one do you think would pull it off better, worcej or jamie? My gut says jamie.

I feel like I can read Jamiet reasonably. (why? what makes you think that? Compared to ...?)

So I feel like worcej is more likely to fool me.

And not jamie?

I think I've wrongly suspected Jamiet of being Mafia once.

I've never seen worcej as Mafia, but I'm constantly wrong about his alignment.

[bozotheclown]

##vote Jamie

I don’t value my life. I am traveling for work starting tomorrow and not going to do much weight pulling.

Jamie >> S&C >>>> HB is my order of likelihood on scum.

Why am I your top scum-read, and not Sweetandcool?

Do you feel strongly that Sweet's "townslips" were genuine, even though Bozo and I have repeatedly pointed out the contradictions where Sweet claimed to be unaware of things they had earlier indicated an awareness of?

If so, why have you reached that conclusion?

Also, did you notice my rebuttal of Brainbomb's swiss-cheese case on me, and, if you did, why am I still your top scum-read?

I know of only one think that sweetandcool said that could be categorized that way (whether the player saved by the doctor would be notified). Can you please tell me what other contradictions you are referring to?

Also, I think sweetandcool's explanation for the apparent contradictions I pointed out are plausible, and I otherwise think sweetandcool seems likely to be town.

[bozotheclown]

I feel like I can read Jamiet reasonably. (why? what makes you think that? Compared to ...?)

So I feel like worcej is more likely to fool me.

And not jamie?

I think I've wrongly suspected Jamiet of being Mafia once.

I've never seen worcej as Mafia, but I'm constantly wrong about his alignment.

How many games have you played here? If you have not player a game where worcej was Mafia, do you mean you are constantly scum reading him when he is town?

[bozotheclown]

So damo, if I'm not getting flashed...which of jamie or ND is more mafia-esque? I can't really tell?

Why did ask damo this question D1 EOD?

[Hamilton Brian]

I feel like I can read Jamiet reasonably.

So I feel like worcej is more likely to fool me.

Lost my post so I won't repeat it. I think we need to press this a bit further. Despite bozo's tunneling, there is a lot about worcej that is seeming town, or at least DEMANDING to be seen as town, to me. Jamie? Not so much. If we go back over both jamie and worcej's D1s and D2s, what are we left with in terms of gut?

How are you using "tunneling" here? I know worcej has been saying that, but I think he is mafia.

I equate tunnelling with doing a deep dive; inspecting every minute piece of a player’s performance. If that’s not the standard use,then I expect to be corrected.

[sweetandcool]

And not jamie?

I think I've wrongly suspected Jamiet of being Mafia once.

I've never seen worcej as Mafia, but I'm constantly wrong about his alignment.

How many games have you played here? If you have not player a game where worcej was Mafia, do you mean you are constantly scum reading him when he is town?

I believe this is my fifth? Yes, I frequently scumread worcej until he claims a PR.

I haven't done my analysis yet, so maybe I'll be properly scumreading him soon, but so far I haven't been getting scum vibes from him. I guess that's actually a bit irregular.

[bozotheclown]

Also, I just realized, are there only two Mafia? I thought there were two goons and a factional roleblocker, but I'm starting to believe that is not the case.

What made you realize there were only 2 mafia? When you read the setup initially, did you not see that it said there were 5 VT?

[Hamilton Brian]

So damo, if I'm not getting flashed...which of jamie or ND is more mafia-esque? I can't really tell?

Why did ask damo this question D1 EOD?

Why did I ask? The same reason i ask others their thoughts and opinions.

[sweetandcool]

Lost my post so I won't repeat it. I think we need to press this a bit further. Despite bozo's tunneling, there is a lot about worcej that is seeming town, or at least DEMANDING to be seen as town, to me. Jamie? Not so much. If we go back over both jamie and worcej's D1s and D2s, what are we left with in terms of gut?

How are you using "tunneling" here? I know worcej has been saying that, but I think he is mafia.

I equate tunnelling with doing a deep dive; inspecting every minute piece of a player’s performance. If that’s not the standard use,then I expect to be corrected.

I think it tends to be used in a more derogatory manner, but I've used it in a similar manner too.

Tunneling=extremely focused.

[sweetandcool]

Also, I just realized, are there only two Mafia? I thought there were two goons and a factional roleblocker, but I'm starting to believe that is not the case.

What made you realize there were only 2 mafia? When you read the setup initially, did you not see that it said there were 5 VT?

I just noted that there were two goons and a role blocker, so I thought there were three. Which in hindsight is excessive, but I didn't think about it at all. Did not note the number of VT.

I realized there were two after several people made statements that made more sense if there were two Mafia (references to finding the last Mafia).

This is partly why I suspected you for a little while, because I thought you and damo were possibly coordinating. And it still took me a while to get used to the idea that only one Mafia was left.

[bozotheclown]

Lost my post so I won't repeat it. I think we need to press this a bit further. Despite bozo's tunneling, there is a lot about worcej that is seeming town, or at least DEMANDING to be seen as town, to me. Jamie? Not so much. If we go back over both jamie and worcej's D1s and D2s, what are we left with in terms of gut?

How are you using "tunneling" here? I know worcej has been saying that, but I think he is mafia.

I equate tunnelling with doing a deep dive; inspecting every minute piece of a player’s performance. If that’s not the standard use,then I expect to be corrected.

I think the standard use of the term is to push for one player to be DKed without considering others, and think it is generally a negative term and implies the player being tunneled is not mafia.

[bozotheclown]

So damo, if I'm not getting flashed...which of jamie or ND is more mafia-esque? I can't really tell?

Why did ask damo this question D1 EOD?

Why did I ask? The same reason i ask others their thoughts and opinions.

Why damo specifically though? I was online as well at EOD.

[bozotheclown]

Also, I just realized, are there only two Mafia? I thought there were two goons and a factional roleblocker, but I'm starting to believe that is not the case.

What made you realize there were only 2 mafia? When you read the setup initially, did you not see that it said there were 5 VT?

I just noted that there were two goons and a role blocker, so I thought there were three. Which in hindsight is excessive, but I didn't think about it at all. Did not note the number of VT.

I realized there were two after several people made statements that made more sense if there were two Mafia (references to finding the last Mafia).

This is partly why I suspected you for a little while, because I thought you and damo were possibly coordinating. And it still took me a while to get used to the idea that only one Mafia was left.

Had you realized there were only 2 mafia when you posted this:

Maybe I just go with the experienced players but this worcej (or sweetandcool) line seems Mafia motivated or ill conceived and I do not like it.

Which one of Bozo and Damo do you think is the Mafia?

:O

You read my mind. I think damo, but Bozo is certainly a possibility.

[bozotheclown]

Hmm I think the person who has never left my scumreads is Jamie.

I can see why ND, s&c could be town

damo is at a null for me

bozo is town for me
worcej is also town

##Vote Jamiet99uk

At the risk of looking like a bandwagoner, I think I'll ##VOTE Jamiet as well.

I've felt the worst about them and Ham.

Still not sure about you, brainbomb <_<

Why did you suspect Jamie D1?

[sweetandcool]

What made you realize there were only 2 mafia? When you read the setup initially, did you not see that it said there were 5 VT?

I just noted that there were two goons and a role blocker, so I thought there were three. Which in hindsight is excessive, but I didn't think about it at all. Did not note the number of VT.

I realized there were two after several people made statements that made more sense if there were two Mafia (references to finding the last Mafia).

This is partly why I suspected you for a little while, because I thought you and damo were possibly coordinating. And it still took me a while to get used to the idea that only one Mafia was left.

Had you realized there were only 2 mafia when you posted this:

Which one of Bozo and Damo do you think is the Mafia?

:O

You read my mind. I think damo, but Bozo is certainly a possibility.

I don't recall. It was either before I realized it, or it was after but I was still not adjusted to that new reality.

I think before.

Is this important enough that you want me to go back and read and answer your question with precision?

[sweetandcool]

Hmm I think the person who has never left my scumreads is Jamie.

I can see why ND, s&c could be town

damo is at a null for me

bozo is town for me
worcej is also town

##Vote Jamiet99uk

At the risk of looking like a bandwagoner, I think I'll ##VOTE Jamiet as well.

I've felt the worst about them and Ham.

Still not sure about you, brainbomb <_<

Why did you suspect Jamie D1?

Jamiet was all flavour and no real contribution.

I think his only real contribution (which we didn't know was helpful until after ND flipped), was him calling out ND for sounding fake.

Otherwise, what did he really do?

Maybe I'll appreciate him more when I read up on him tomorrow, but that is how I felt then.

[bozotheclown]

I just noted that there were two goons and a role blocker, so I thought there were three. Which in hindsight is excessive, but I didn't think about it at all. Did not note the number of VT.

I realized there were two after several people made statements that made more sense if there were two Mafia (references to finding the last Mafia).

This is partly why I suspected you for a little while, because I thought you and damo were possibly coordinating. And it still took me a while to get used to the idea that only one Mafia was left.

Had you realized there were only 2 mafia when you posted this:

:O

You read my mind. I think damo, but Bozo is certainly a possibility.

I don't recall. It was either before I realized it, or it was after but I was still not adjusted to that new reality.

I think before.

Is this important enough that you want me to go back and read and answer your question with precision?

no