M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

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Re: M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

#1041 Post by worcej » Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:18 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 11:22 pm
Wassup players, it's my birthday today so I claim immunity to death. :D

As usual, I'll be your solid town core that manages to aggravate a few of you into believing I'm team Mafia.

Because I'm on vacation you will notice a marked difference in how I play for the first week of the game.

I suggest ya'll choose to believe my previous statement that I'm town. Then fellow townies will have narrowed their suspect pool to 6, giving 50% of catching Mafia D1.

That's all for a while, auf wiedersehen!
Funny how this premonition has come true…

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Re: M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

#1042 Post by worcej » Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:20 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2023 9:07 pm
I'm missing the deadline, so don't count on me to change votes anymore. Good luck team!
This seems a little more over the top than the standard town post that they will miss EOD. I can see a world where this was telling ND that he’s on his own.

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Re: M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

#1043 Post by worcej » Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:27 am

Most of sweet’s N1 comes off as town trying to sort out the game.

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Re: M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

#1044 Post by worcej » Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:29 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Fri Oct 06, 2023 2:41 pm
Anyways, good work Bozo, I have been seemingly inconsistent, but every post so far has been completely sincere.

Can anyone explain why worcej and not damo?

I am driving home today and will only be able to even check the thread this morning. After that it is unlikely I'll have time to do anything.
There has been a logical consistency from sweet regarding Damo since N1 that has me towning S&C more.

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Re: M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

#1045 Post by worcej » Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:34 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:54 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:08 pm
sweetandcool wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:59 pm


Yeah, I'm not exactly freaking out yet, but I'm worried if we pass up on damo today, and damo is Mafia, then we'll chop whoever is left between worcej and sweetandcool.

I'm hoping to impress D3 if we make it to that point.
do you think anything jamie pushed you on was insincere?
I'm not sure, but leaning towards sincere. I think if Mafia Jamiet smelt blood he would be pushing me way harder.

Critiques of my performance aren't entirely unfair.

But his scumread on me seems to be based on me excessively townslipping and for apparent inconsistencies pointed out by Bozo. Which in hindsight is kind of a weak case.

I think he's just annoyed town.
Somewhat concur here - mostly on the weak push by Jamie. I do think this easily fits scum!Jamie setting up his position against S&C, which would be an easy F3 kill, or if he got lucky, a kill now and a F3 push on myself

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Re: M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

#1046 Post by worcej » Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:36 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:48 pm
Yeah, I'm leaning towards worcej as being the last Mafia. I've generally found in the last couple of games that trusting the more experienced players tends to work out.

So if I'm trusting town (Bozo, damo), then worcej is the vote.

However, worcej's argument about how it feels like Mafia is contentedly sitting back is definitely something that has been on my mind for a while. Which would point towards Jamiet (from my perspective).

Yes, I will have to revisit the entire thread and examine Jamiet and worcej and hopefully I will then be able to make a decision with conviction.

Ham deserves a revisit too, but I still don't think it a very likely possibility at all.
This comes off more towny to me, still questioning the whole game and trying to be open minded.

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Re: M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

#1047 Post by Hamilton Brian » Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:38 am

Alright, family gone and I see we've lost brain. RIP.

In what could have been bozo's last post in the game, they still implicate worcej.

I appreciate the depth bozo has gone to suggest the last mafia is worcej.

I am still not sold 100% but appreciate that the remaining mafia is one of worcej, jamie, and sweet.

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Re: M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

#1048 Post by Hamilton Brian » Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:40 am

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:06 pm
##Vote Sweetandcool
Why? And what piece of bozo's dissertation on why worcej is the remaining mafia do you reject?

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Re: M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

#1049 Post by Hamilton Brian » Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:41 am

And I would like to say that 1993 Brian had a massive crush on Andie McDowell.

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Re: M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

#1050 Post by Hamilton Brian » Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:46 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:12 pm
Interesting kill. Since Brainbomb was outted as doctor, Mafia could have RB them and then killed Bozo.

Imagine worcej/sweetandcool/Jamiet/Ham were Mafia. Who would you expect them to kill? Brainbomb or Bozo?

Personally, I would have killed Bozo to make worcej look bad. Plus Brainbomb can actually be an asset if you manage to evade his radar.
Sweet, what are you hoping to get from this post?

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Re: M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

#1051 Post by Hamilton Brian » Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:49 am

worcej wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:23 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:08 pm
Note 1:
I oppose hammering in the first 24 hours of today and will not be casting an endvote in that time-frame.

Note 2:
I will find some time within that 24 hour period to re-read Hamilton Brian, as this was one of Doctor Brain's last requests.
Note #1 is scummy as fuck because it drains energy out of the remaining town to just waste time when the finale of opinion is already reached.
Right, but we've seen in the past how mafia have utilized such a move to kill conversation/detection. I think. I could be misremembering stuff. But, that's a town jamie point.

Note 2 should go without saying. Really jamie might be better off saying, "I need to throw away all my notes and re-read everyone again."

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Re: M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

#1052 Post by Hamilton Brian » Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:55 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:42 pm
Man, these guys are acting pretty town, maybe it really is Ham :/
Or very performative. Which one do you think would pull it off better, worcej or jamie? My gut says jamie.

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Re: M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

#1053 Post by Hamilton Brian » Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:58 am

worcej wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:16 am
Re-reading HB, most of his posts were his drunken/microdosed spew that is hard to follow. But the above post doesn’t sit well with me after the flip of damo, especially considering the game state.
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Get back to me about that; what do you mean regarding the game state?

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Re: M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

#1054 Post by Hamilton Brian » Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:59 am

worcej wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:23 am
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 11:46 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 11:43 pm


make a reads list
That's for chumps and suckers. No reads, just pure unadulterated shooting-from-the hip. What could go wrong? It's groundhog day.
D1 re-read, this seems a little more forced than I’d like from HB. Read lists have really fucked him as scum in the past, so why be anti them so much if he’s town?
One time it fucked me.

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Re: M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

#1055 Post by Hamilton Brian » Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:01 am

Worcej, based on your posts...is your mafiameter reading jamie>HB>Sweet?

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Re: M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

#1056 Post by Hamilton Brian » Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:08 am

Are there any relevant voting patterns between D1 and D2?

Where would mafia have wanted to land on D2? Would it matter in the circumstance?

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Re: M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

#1057 Post by sweetandcool » Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:13 am

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:46 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:12 pm
Interesting kill. Since Brainbomb was outted as doctor, Mafia could have RB them and then killed Bozo.

Imagine worcej/sweetandcool/Jamiet/Ham were Mafia. Who would you expect them to kill? Brainbomb or Bozo?

Personally, I would have killed Bozo to make worcej look bad. Plus Brainbomb can actually be an asset if you manage to evade his radar.
Sweet, what are you hoping to get from this post?
Why was Bozo targeted N1? Why not N2 as well? Because of the RB, Brainbomb being the doctor doesn't explain why they preferred Brainbomb over Bozo.

Nobody has attempted to explore this path of inquiry, but it may be useful.

I have a feeling most players, if not all would have targeted Brainbomb for N2. But what if Bozo had been targeted instead? I suspect that I would have been most suspected for it, because it would be regarded as a strange unexpierenced kill (and I totally would have targeted Bozo).

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Re: M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

#1058 Post by sweetandcool » Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:14 am

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:55 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:42 pm
Man, these guys are acting pretty town, maybe it really is Ham :/
Or very performative. Which one do you think would pull it off better, worcej or jamie? My gut says jamie.
I feel like I can read Jamiet reasonably.

So I feel like worcej is more likely to fool me.

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Re: M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

#1059 Post by sweetandcool » Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:15 am

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:08 am
Are there any relevant voting patterns between D1 and D2?

Where would mafia have wanted to land on D2? Would it matter in the circumstance?
I think Mafia loved having damo voted out, particularly if Mafia was worcej.

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Re: M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

#1060 Post by Hamilton Brian » Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:21 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:14 am
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:55 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:42 pm
Man, these guys are acting pretty town, maybe it really is Ham :/
Or very performative. Which one do you think would pull it off better, worcej or jamie? My gut says jamie.
I feel like I can read Jamiet reasonably.

So I feel like worcej is more likely to fool me.
Lost my post so I won't repeat it. I think we need to press this a bit further. Despite bozo's tunneling, there is a lot about worcej that is seeming town, or at least DEMANDING to be seen as town, to me. Jamie? Not so much. If we go back over both jamie and worcej's D1s and D2s, what are we left with in terms of gut?

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