M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

[brainbomb]

the lack of use of the roleblock makes me think its Jamie.
he doesnt think bozo is doc and doesnt see any point in roleblocking on bozo

also Jamie busses teammates early anytime he thinks they arent playing well. and in the past as scum jamie half asses his bussing by claiming he scumreads a teamate and then backs his way into eventually having to vote that teammate.

here jamie sees his teammate trying to mimic his towngame and insulting everyone.

at end of day jamie isnt present to move his vote or help save ND and probably assumed ND would survive.

when I claimed doc jamie expressed no anger

when I initially expressed boxo was the likely kill jamie agreed with it and implied he agreed.

I think the fights between ND and jamie are scum and scum

I would like to flip Jamie today because I think he is coasting and his push on sweet seems to be mostly about things boxo pointed out which are pretty normal gaffes for sweet as town.

I think its Jamie. reread him and reread the way he and ND entered the game

[bozotheclown]

worcej now voting for damo make me more confident he is the remaining mafia.

How?

damo wants you DKed.

[brainbomb]

The reason I think Jamie changed his bussing meta is because its well known at this point amd he probably felt like he had no other choice here but to go all in and just hope town didnt actuially go for ND in the end

[bozotheclown]

It's my three suspects. I need to go back to understand why it's asserted damo is more likely town.

Please look at D1 EOD and see if you think damo would have voted the way he did as mafia,

I don't see anything special in his vote movements. What do you see that towns him?

damo helped get ND DKed.

[worcej]

The fourth reason I suspect worcej is because D2 he has only suspected players who suspected him, except for myself, who the mafia would know was not a likely DK.

This is a stupid opinion based off game size and you should know better.

I have you (who I have towned for awhile) and damo (was my 2nd scum read) wanting my nuts since N1. BB (was top scum read) was earlier in the phase, and his real case came as an OMGUS after I made mine.

[worcej]

worcej now voting for damo make me more confident he is the remaining mafia.

How?

damo wants you DKed.

Stupid reasoning. Scum will happily take any MK they can get, especially ones handed to them on silver platters.

[brainbomb]

jamie is hard pocketing worcej for the long run and putting him least likely to be mafia without any reasoning as to why

[worcej]

Please look at D1 EOD and see if you think damo would have voted the way he did as mafia,

I don't see anything special in his vote movements. What do you see that towns him?

damo helped get ND DKed.

Hard disagree with your floppy disk here.

[worcej]

jamie is hard pocketing worcej for the long run and putting him least likely to be mafia without any reasoning as to why

Incorrect - he has stated his reason why.

[brainbomb]

he white knighted worcej super hard when I came at worcej also but never stuck his neck out in the same way when bozo went after worcej. this is very strategic by jamie and wins worcej over while also dirivng up pressure on damo and sweet who both are miskills.

[brainbomb]

jamie is hard pocketing worcej for the long run and putting him least likely to be mafia without any reasoning as to why

Incorrect - he has stated his reason why.

he gave reasons why my case was false he didnt give his own reasons why you are town

[bozotheclown]

The fourth reason I suspect worcej is because D2 he has only suspected players who suspected him, except for myself, who the mafia would know was not a likely DK.

This is a stupid opinion based off game size and you should know better.

I have you (who I have towned for awhile) and damo (was my 2nd scum read) wanting my nuts since N1. BB (was top scum read) was earlier in the phase, and his real case came as an OMGUS after I made mine.

I don't remember you even scum reading damo until brainbomb was no longer an option and damo became a wagon.

[brainbomb]

jamie would be infuriated and insulting me for doc claiming if he were truly town

[worcej]

jamie is hard pocketing worcej for the long run and putting him least likely to be mafia without any reasoning as to why

Incorrect - he has stated his reason why.

he gave reasons why my case was false he didnt give his own reasons why you are town

The meta thing is the reason, but it is an easy pocket to make with me right now.

[bozotheclown]

It isn't self defense - it's about trying to figure out where people stand on the gamestate and how they are arriving at the conclusions. My D2 flip will do nothing to provide more information to the town unless I force people to connect to me more.

One thing to note: bozo seems to have abandoned his original rational for wanting me on D2 and instead has shifted into the VCA/non-bus methodology.

I think this is the second most mafia indicative post of the game. It is an unfounded attempt to undermine my reasons for suspecting worcej, just before the mafia would expect I would be removed from the game.

It's an attempt to snap you out of your always tunneling mode.

You say you're entertaining other possible scum, but it doesn't come off that way when 99% of your energy is aimed at killing just me.

I considered other options, concluded you were the most likely to be mafia, and now I am trying to get you DKed because I think you are the remaining mafia.

[worcej]

The fourth reason I suspect worcej is because D2 he has only suspected players who suspected him, except for myself, who the mafia would know was not a likely DK.

This is a stupid opinion based off game size and you should know better.

I have you (who I have towned for awhile) and damo (was my 2nd scum read) wanting my nuts since N1. BB (was top scum read) was earlier in the phase, and his real case came as an OMGUS after I made mine.

I don't remember you even scum reading damo until brainbomb was no longer an option and damo became a wagon.

Let me reset your CD rom.

Reason why I suspect Damo:
Damo has shown the scum nature to force end of phase votes to accomplish ties to save himself and teammates. M81 is the most recent example - and FWIW, this is also a great example of town bungling game advantage into a loss

Damo's last second move was weird and could've forced a tie if BB had done a last second move to Jamie again, which BB had been on for awhile.

It's calculating and deceptive, both of which damo is good at, but has less factual backing and is more of a hunch than anything else I have.

This is after I made my case on BB. Damo hasn't done anything worth merit to gain town credit nor stuck his neck out either.

[worcej]

I think this is the second most mafia indicative post of the game. It is an unfounded attempt to undermine my reasons for suspecting worcej, just before the mafia would expect I would be removed from the game.

It's an attempt to snap you out of your always tunneling mode.

You say you're entertaining other possible scum, but it doesn't come off that way when 99% of your energy is aimed at killing just me.

I considered other options, concluded you were the most likely to be mafia, and now I am trying to get you DKed because I think you are the remaining mafia.

But reality is this: you're buzz-sawing a towny and we're completely drowning the thread right now. This is the ideal situation for a scum player.

I think BB may be onto something with Jamie, but damo is also barely around and is benefiting here too.

[bozotheclown]

How?

damo wants you DKed.

Stupid reasoning. Scum will happily take any MK they can get, especially ones handed to them on silver platters.

That is why I think you would vote for damo as mafia when he became a wagon.

[Jamiet99uk]

##vote Jamie

What. Why?

[worcej]

damo wants you DKed.

Stupid reasoning. Scum will happily take any MK they can get, especially ones handed to them on silver platters.

That is why I think you would vote for damo as mafia when he became a wagon.

You need a ram upgrade...

It's so difficult mashing my head into the wall over and over again with you. And I won't even get the satisfaction of seeing a "Sorrry worcej, I was wrong and should've listened to you" once I hit the GT.