M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

[damo666]

I have been under the impression that the night kill was probably on bozo. and since no one is confirming anything I dont think its harmful that I say I was assuming thats who would die.

Stop it.

[Jamiet99uk]

I have been under the impression that the night kill was probably on bozo. and since no one is confirming anything I dont think its harmful that I say I was assuming thats who would die.

So you strongly assume Bozo was saved.

Yes. It seems pretty obvious to me as he is the most clear looking town, who killed mafia, who was leading that charge

Ok actually forget the scumslip question. Bozo is a likely kill target, you are not wrong. He did push ND hard and I don't remember Bozo ever bussing hard like that as scum.

[worcej]

yes. he claims PR all the time at the barest minimum of pressure. He freaks out on people who scumread him incorrectly. Yes he does all of those things.

No major argument here, though freaks out is a little more intense

SITUATIONALLY
at present the reason WHY this seems scummy is because 1 mafia is left alive, and town has a slough of miskills to clear out people who should NOT be still alive at F3. and he should not be alive at F3 under any circumstance given theres only 3 people who didnt vote ND, and worcej also VOUCHED for ND and called ND town and NEVER explained anything about WHY. Even when I asked for him to explain it on three occasions he never came back to do so.

I didn't see any of those requests because I didn't read EOD1 in detail at the time - I missed it and saw the kill on ND and was excited that we got a scum, though I knew I was probably fucked for towning him.

So, back up. THink about this.
Worcej isnt even getting mad. hes refuting cases being lobbed his way but not emotionally. hes trying to survive in a scenario where as town he would probably find the cases on him to be pretty logical and reasonable. in fact he would likely see the utility in dying even as town here because the POE SHOULD be much smaller with 1 dead scum, a doc saved town and a doctor still alive.

So me not being an animated asshole is problematic for once? lol...

I'm staying at frustrated intentionally because it's not worth going into asshole mode - it won't help my position in any way, so I am trying to explain and discuss, which also isn't helping my position in any way lol...

And, I guess for the fourth time now I'll say this but with much more emphasis this time:

I AM FINE WITH DYING BUT I WANT MY DEATH TO HAVE MORE CONNECTION AND CONTENT THAN JUST "HE WAS NICE TO ND AND DIDN'T VOTE FOR HIM".

I WANT MY DEATH TO HAVE CONNECTIONS TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE STILL ALIVE SO THAT THERE IS SOMETHING TO BUILD OFF OF FROM IT. THUS MY PUSH ON BOZO TO EXPLAIN HIS LOGIC AND MY NOTING THAT HIS LOGIC HAS BEEN EXPANDING TO FIT THE NEED TO KILL ME, THE PUSH FOR DAMO TO EXPLAIN HIS OPINION ON MY DEATH OUTSIDE OF JUST PIGGY-BACKING BOZO, AND MY COMMENTARY ON HOW YOUR ANALYSIS ON MY ACTIONS IS DOWNRIGHT WRONG BASED ON HOW I NORMALLY PLAY AND WHAT I TYPICALLY DO AS A VT.

the fact he isnt at that point, explains why he is likely mafia here. and why he cant seem to explain how or why he ever assumed ND was town. And then he has the nerve to accuse me of bussing, and flaking on my own read on ND, without ever even explaining why he had a townread on ND in the first place

Explanation given in cross post from this, pick at it how you will. At the minimum, at least my read is based on context from this game wheras you're using incorrect meta to frame me.

[Jamiet99uk]

I have been under the impression that the night kill was probably on bozo. and since no one is confirming anything I dont think its harmful that I say I was assuming thats who would die.

Stop it.

Excuse me Damo, earlier on, you were the one who wanted everyone to declare whether or not they were saved.

[Jamiet99uk]

Sheesh Worcej, calm your tits.

[worcej]

hmm okay, worcej heres a question for you.

suppose bozo dies last night. who do you think would kill him in order to frame you

I don't think bozo was the NK target last night.

I think if bozo was the target, then it was most likely done by the other scum player. Yes I am being obtuse with that sentence, but the real answer is anyone because it could be easily framed as OMGUS kill by me and would continue to fit the narrative that I am floundering as scum here.

[worcej]

Sheesh Worcej, calm your tits.

It's comical to me that BB is flustered that I haven't answered his question multiple times when I've explained multiple times what I am trying to do with my defense/posts.

I don't give two fucks about my personal life here - this is a team game. I am trying to help my team.

[worcej]

So you strongly assume Bozo was saved.

Yes. It seems pretty obvious to me as he is the most clear looking town, who killed mafia, who was leading that charge

Ok actually forget the scumslip question. Bozo is a likely kill target, you are not wrong. He did push ND hard and I don't remember Bozo ever bussing hard like that as scum.

Let's have fun here - I honestly thought Jamie was the most likely person to die N1.

[brainbomb]

hmm okay, worcej heres a question for you.

suppose bozo dies last night. who do you think would kill him in order to frame you

I don't think bozo was the NK target last night.

I think if bozo was the target, then it was most likely done by the other scum player. Yes I am being obtuse with that sentence, but the real answer is anyone because it could be easily framed as OMGUS kill by me and would continue to fit the narrative that I am floundering as scum here.

this isnt obtuse this just simply makes no sense given theres only 1 remaining

[worcej]

hmm okay, worcej heres a question for you.

suppose bozo dies last night. who do you think would kill him in order to frame you

I don't think bozo was the NK target last night.

I think if bozo was the target, then it was most likely done by the other scum player. Yes I am being obtuse with that sentence, but the real answer is anyone because it could be easily framed as OMGUS kill by me and would continue to fit the narrative that I am floundering as scum here.

this isnt obtuse this just simply makes no sense given theres only 1 remaining

You're missing my point then - I think HB, Jamie, damo, sweet, or you would've ordered that N1 kill on bozo. None of you are more or least likely to have done it.

[brainbomb]

Let's have fun here - I honestly thought Jamie was the most likely person to die N1.

what makes this thought "fun" for you?

[damo666]

I have been under the impression that the night kill was probably on bozo. and since no one is confirming anything I dont think its harmful that I say I was assuming thats who would die.

Stop it.

Excuse me Damo, earlier on, you were the one who wanted everyone to declare whether or not they were saved.

There's a difference between asking he who was saved to reveal (I can ask this even if I know I was the saved one or know who it is by being doc or indeed both) and speculalting as to their identity which can potentially help narrow the doc pool for Mr Scum.

In fact the saved one by not revealing as requested has done town a disservice because it encourages such specualtion a la brain which is anti town.

[worcej]

Let's have fun here - I honestly thought Jamie was the most likely person to die N1.

what makes this thought "fun" for you?

I like hypothetical analysis

[damo666]

Yes. It seems pretty obvious to me as he is the most clear looking town, who killed mafia, who was leading that charge

Ok actually forget the scumslip question. Bozo is a likely kill target, you are not wrong. He did push ND hard and I don't remember Bozo ever bussing hard like that as scum.

Let's have fun here - I honestly thought Jamie was the most likely person to die N1.

##vote worcej

[brainbomb]

Stop it.

Excuse me Damo, earlier on, you were the one who wanted everyone to declare whether or not they were saved.

There's a difference between asking he who was saved to reveal (I can ask this even if I know I was the saved one or know who it is by being doc or indeed both) and speculalting as to their identity which can potentially help narrow the doc pool for Mr Scum.

In fact the saved one by not revealing as requested has done town a disservice because it encourages such specualtion a la brain which is anti town.

this I agree with, and it opens the door for the possibility that something very deep gambit level could be in play.

[brainbomb]

Let's have fun here - I honestly thought Jamie was the most likely person to die N1.

what makes this thought "fun" for you?

I like hypothetical analysis

kinda makes it sound like you just came up with it now as opposed to last night

[brainbomb]

I was expecting you to say you thought mafia would keep bozo alive to solidify your miskill. was that never a thought?

[Jamiet99uk]

Very well, Damo.

I was not the save last night.

[worcej]

Stop it.

Excuse me Damo, earlier on, you were the one who wanted everyone to declare whether or not they were saved.

There's a difference between asking he who was saved to reveal (I can ask this even if I know I was the saved one or know who it is by being doc or indeed both) and speculalting as to their identity which can potentially help narrow the doc pool for Mr Scum.

In fact the saved one by not revealing as requested has done town a disservice because it encourages such specualtion a la brain which is anti town.

Only real option on who was saved is BB, bozo, HB, and Jamie at this point.

You, sweet, and myself have either directly said or highly implied it wasn't us

[brainbomb]

It should be fairly obvious I was not saved last night because if I had been, as jamie loves to point out, I wouldve been claiming it and spilling yogurt down my trousers with any bit of info I had because I cannot control my urges to out information