M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

[brainbomb]

I would assume if worcej ignored cases being made against him that:

A. he isnt reading the game and doesnt care
B. is hiding from scrutiny
C. just doesnt care but did read the posts

[Jamiet99uk]

I would assume if worcej ignored cases being made against him that:

A. he isnt reading the game and doesnt care
B. is hiding from scrutiny
C. just doesnt care but did read the posts

Interesting.

In this game Worcej is definitely not ignoring the cases being made against him. Yet one of your main reasons for thinking Worcej is scum, in this game, is because you think he is spending too much time defending himself.

So, it follows from your answer above, that you think town!worcej would just sit back and not care about people wrongly scumreading him, whereas scum!worcej would mount a spirited defence of himself.

Is that what you think, yes?

[brainbomb]

I would assume if worcej ignored cases being made against him that:

A. he isnt reading the game and doesnt care
B. is hiding from scrutiny
C. just doesnt care but did read the posts

Interesting.

In this game Worcej is definitely not ignoring the cases being made against him. Yet one of your main reasons for thinking Worcej is scum, in this game, is because you think he is spending too much time defending himself.

So, it follows from your answer above, that you think town!worcej would just sit back and not care about people wrongly scumreading him, whereas scum!worcej would mount a spirited defence of himself.

Is that what you think, yes?

back against a wall, mutliple people at night calling for his head the ensuing day. Id say he would fight pretty hard to refute cases and accusations yes.

[brainbomb]

and yes I would assume that would come more from a scum game of his than town.

[Jamiet99uk]

I would assume if worcej ignored cases being made against him that:

A. he isnt reading the game and doesnt care
B. is hiding from scrutiny
C. just doesnt care but did read the posts

Interesting.

In this game Worcej is definitely not ignoring the cases being made against him. Yet one of your main reasons for thinking Worcej is scum, in this game, is because you think he is spending too much time defending himself.

So, it follows from your answer above, that you think town!worcej would just sit back and not care about people wrongly scumreading him, whereas scum!worcej would mount a spirited defence of himself.

Is that what you think, yes?

back against a wall, mutliple people at night calling for his head the ensuing day. Id say he would fight pretty hard to refute cases and accusations yes.

Aha, yes, but, you are saying he would only defend himself this way if he was scum, aren't you?

(See, now you are doing the very thing of not answering the whole of my question, which annoys me).

[brainbomb]

well your question and the way you are going about getting to the point is pretty fucking idiotic so can you skip to the part where you give some form of a conclusion and I can agree with it or not

[Jamiet99uk]

and yes I would assume that would come more from a scum game of his than town.

Right, well, then I think you are wrong and you have not paid attention to Worcej's meta.

I have seen multiple games where Worcej has become very animated indeed about defending himself, as wrongly-accused town.

Your impression of how town!worcej would react here just simply doesn't match my previous experience of seeing Worcej play in several dozen games.

[Jamiet99uk]

^ That is my conclusion, there.

[brainbomb]

and yes I would assume that would come more from a scum game of his than town.

Right, well, then I think you are wrong and you have not paid attention to Worcej's meta.

I have seen multiple games where Worcej has become very animated indeed about defending himself, as wrongly-accused town.

Your impression of how town!worcej would react here just simply doesn't match my previous experience of seeing Worcej play in several dozen games.

yes. he claims PR all the time at the barest minimum of pressure. He freaks out on people who scumread him incorrectly. Yes he does all of those things.

SITUATIONALLY
at present the reason WHY this seems scummy is because 1 mafia is left alive, and town has a slough of miskills to clear out people who should NOT be still alive at F3. and he should not be alive at F3 under any circumstance given theres only 3 people who didnt vote ND, and worcej also VOUCHED for ND and called ND town and NEVER explained anything about WHY. Even when I asked for him to explain it on three occasions he never came back to do so.

So, back up. THink about this.
Worcej isnt even getting mad. hes refuting cases being lobbed his way but not emotionally. hes trying to survive in a scenario where as town he would probably find the cases on him to be pretty logical and reasonable. in fact he would likely see the utility in dying even as town here because the POE SHOULD be much smaller with 1 dead scum, a doc saved town and a doctor still alive.

the fact he isnt at that point, explains why he is likely mafia here. and why he cant seem to explain how or why he ever assumed ND was town. And then he has the nerve to accuse me of bussing, and flaking on my own read on ND, without ever even explaining why he had a townread on ND in the first place

[brainbomb]

in conclusion:
kill worcej, if that is town, kill sweet.

if that also fails; then it is ham, jam or damo and I really dont think its damo at all. and ham is probably also town. Jamie is least likely to be mafia based on play today.

bozo is my top town still and is never an option

[Jamiet99uk]

Worcej:

Brainbomb accuses you of never explaining why you townread ND.

I call upon you to do so, or to remind us where you already did so, if you did.

[worcej]

and yes I would assume that would come more from a scum game of his than town.

This is a poor assumption - I have time and time again shown I don't go down without a fight as any alignment. I am notorious for being a difficult person to crusade against because I won't let soft, bullshit, reasoning go unchecked.

[worcej]

Worcej:

Brainbomb accuses you of never explaining why you townread ND.

I call upon you to do so, or to remind us where you already did so, if you did.

I towned him because I thought his frustration at the lack of activity was genuine and was from the position that he was excited to play the game again and wanted to scum hunt.

I was wrong, which is very common.

[brainbomb]

hmm okay, worcej heres a question for you.

suppose bozo dies last night. who do you think would kill him in order to frame you

[brainbomb]

I have been under the impression that the night kill was probably on bozo. and since no one is confirming anything I dont think its harmful that I say I was assuming thats who would die.

[Jamiet99uk]

hmm okay, worcej heres a question for you.

suppose bozo dies last night. who do you think would kill him in order to frame you

Is this a scumslip?

[Jamiet99uk]

I have been under the impression that the night kill was probably on bozo. and since no one is confirming anything I dont think its harmful that I say I was assuming thats who would die.

So you strongly assume Bozo was saved.

[damo666]

No Sweet>>>worcej>>>brain is a vast improvement on what you have purported.

Why do you townread Hamilton Brian, and for what reasons?

His vote 25 minutes out switching to ND when it was a 4 way tie at 2:2:2:2 seems unlikely if ND were his partner. Why not wait or switch to you?

[brainbomb]

I have been under the impression that the night kill was probably on bozo. and since no one is confirming anything I dont think its harmful that I say I was assuming thats who would die.

So you strongly assume Bozo was saved.

Yes. It seems pretty obvious to me as he is the most clear looking town, who killed mafia, who was leading that charge

[Jamiet99uk]

No Sweet>>>worcej>>>brain is a vast improvement on what you have purported.

Why do you townread Hamilton Brian, and for what reasons?

His vote 25 minutes out switching to ND when it was a 4 way tie at 2:2:2:2 seems unlikely if ND were his partner. Why not wait or switch to you?

Valid observation.

Ok my scumpool is now [Brainbomb?*], Sweetie, Damo, Worcej, in that order. Thanks for helping me narrow it down, Damo.

*If that was a scumslip earlier on this page.