M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

[Jamiet99uk]

How do we know it is not you?

Well someone other than me knows it's not me and as far as I know it could be you.

I think both my late votes Ham to Jam and vice versa are pretty own indicative. If we assume no bussers due to game size that only leaves sweet and worcej.

this does follow damo usual lines of thinking. that first statement is pretty mental gymnastic-esque however.

These colours are really hard to read in normal mode.

[worcej]

You don’t care wth I have to say and find it to be scummy, so slam that end vote BB.

[worcej]

Can’t wait for bozo to write a paragraph that my frustration is fake and I still must be scum

[brainbomb]

You don’t care wth I have to say and find it to be scummy, so slam that end vote BB.

I do care. and I would like to continue researching.

[brainbomb]

Well someone other than me knows it's not me and as far as I know it could be you.

I think both my late votes Ham to Jam and vice versa are pretty own indicative. If we assume no bussers due to game size that only leaves sweet and worcej.

this does follow damo usual lines of thinking. that first statement is pretty mental gymnastic-esque however.

These colours are really hard to read in normal mode.

anyone using normal mode on this forum should be thrown into mount doom

[brainbomb]

Can’t wait for bozo to write a paragraph that my frustration is fake and I still must be scum

frustration isnt hard to fake when dying means losing. and your frustration at dying can mean fear of losing the game regardless of your alignment.

the fact you have no faith in town even after killing a mafia, even after an obvious doc save tells me that you are faking the fear of this game slipping away from town as the primary concern.

however, if you truly are afraid the game could slip away from town, you could tell us your reads, and explain reasons why I am scum other than (bb is most likely the busser were looking for).

[Jamiet99uk]

Bozo has made 3 different reasons to want me dead and won’t consider anything outside of my likelihood as scum. If he wasn’t such a good analyzer and solver, his style would downright drive me to misery.

Didn't you see Bozo's investigation on Sweetandcool?

You are tunnelling on yourself by only looking at things Bozo is saying about you, not what he is saying about other people who might be suspects.

[Jamiet99uk]

this does follow damo usual lines of thinking. that first statement is pretty mental gymnastic-esque however.

These colours are really hard to read in normal mode.

anyone using normal mode on this forum should be thrown into mount doom

I don't like dark / black / reversed negative colour-schemes, they hurt my eyes.

I find black text on white background easier to read.

[brainbomb]

These colours are really hard to read in normal mode.

anyone using normal mode on this forum should be thrown into mount doom

I don't like dark / black / reversed negative colour-schemes, they hurt my eyes.

I find black text on white background easier to read.

do you wear glasses or contacts?
thats interesting. I am the opposite

[brainbomb]

what I think happened was worcej tried to kill someone and that someone didnt die.
and then he expected to be hammered right away today based on comments from N1 by multiple people.

then when he saw (town) sweetandcool picking up votes, he saw me (brainbomb) leading that push and decided... wow maybe I am gonna survive today after all.

so at that point worcej decided, lets try to convince s&c to push bb, and see if bb bites the dust, then he can blame bb death on s&c and thats the miskills he needs to win essentially.

[brainbomb]

If anyone is insulted and feels like I am implying any of you are bad at mafia, or playing terrible I really do apologize.
I am glad to be here playing with all of you and hope your lives are going well.

this is fun. I do hope there are some slivers of entertainment for the mafia member as well.

[worcej]

Bozo has made 3 different reasons to want me dead and won’t consider anything outside of my likelihood as scum. If he wasn’t such a good analyzer and solver, his style would downright drive me to misery.

Didn't you see Bozo's investigation on Sweetandcool?

You are tunnelling on yourself by only looking at things Bozo is saying about you, not what he is saying about other people who might be suspects.

I did, but look at bozo’s vote and posting history about me.

His next tunnel is sweet, he’s still in worcej~tunnel

[brainbomb]

Bozo has made 3 different reasons to want me dead and won’t consider anything outside of my likelihood as scum. If he wasn’t such a good analyzer and solver, his style would downright drive me to misery.

Didn't you see Bozo's investigation on Sweetandcool?

You are tunnelling on yourself by only looking at things Bozo is saying about you, not what he is saying about other people who might be suspects.

I did, but look at bozo’s vote and posting history about me.

His next tunnel is sweet, he’s still in worcej~tunnel

and what does this tell you about bozo? I agree he does do this, and hes done it to me before also. It is frustrating when on the receiving end of it.

[bozotheclown]

Bozo has made 3 different reasons to want me dead and won’t consider anything outside of my likelihood as scum. If he wasn’t such a good analyzer and solver, his style would downright drive me to misery.

Damo is doing his typical lack of information posting. It’s low effort but NAI for him, thus why he goes potentially deep as scum.

And you BB just think I am being defensive and not helping, when I have been prying more reasoning out of the people who scum me to try to get more connections to me so that my flip isn’t worthless. You seem to want to dispute that narrative and call it as me just being a caught scum. I am *always* defensive when I am scum read and I *always* try to point out the flaws in the logic against me. No one gives a shit when I point at who I think is actually scum here.

The people using VCA here to justify me are being too simple - they are defaulting to “scum wouldn’t bus”, which is truthfully wrong for our community. We bus all the time.

You must not be reading my posts if you think I am not considering anything besides you being mafia. I have provided reasons why sweetandcool's town slips could be fake, and why ND and Hamilton Brian might have been bussing each other. However, you are still my top suspect, and fortunately we have 3 chances to find the remaining mafia.

[brainbomb]

worcej, you do realize that if I really am the last mafia, you are not gonna make me feel stupid for miskilling you right? you are posturing that I am scum and its obvious, but then while interacting with me you are challenging my ego as if I am obviously town, and im gonna feel dumb for killing you.

this would seem to be a perceptual miscue. I cant have egg on my face if im the bad guy and I get you killed. you would just be grist for the mill in that scenario

[worcej]

what I think happened was worcej tried to kill someone and that someone didnt die.
and then he expected to be hammered right away today based on comments from N1 by multiple people.

then when he saw (town) sweetandcool picking up votes, he saw me (brainbomb) leading that push and decided... wow maybe I am gonna survive today after all.

so at that point worcej decided, lets try to convince s&c to push bb, and see if bb bites the dust, then he can blame bb death on s&c and thats the miskills he needs to win essentially.

This is all predicated on your initial scum read of me that is based on the use of the word "I" that Jamie excellently dissected already and my defensiveness, which is literally my style when I am scummed.

[worcej]

worcej, you do realize that if I really am the last mafia, you are not gonna make me feel stupid for miskilling you right? you are posturing that I am scum and its obvious, but then while interacting with me you are challenging my ego as if I am obviously town, and im gonna feel dumb for killing you.

this would seem to be a perceptual miscue. I cant have egg on my face if im the bad guy and I get you killed. you would just be grist for the mill in that scenario

If you're scum, I don't want you to get away with this scot-free.

If you're town, you should feel dumb for scumming me for how I am posting and acting when there is an easy tool that shows you this is my meta when I am town being wrongly scummread.

[worcej]

Bozo has made 3 different reasons to want me dead and won’t consider anything outside of my likelihood as scum. If he wasn’t such a good analyzer and solver, his style would downright drive me to misery.

Damo is doing his typical lack of information posting. It’s low effort but NAI for him, thus why he goes potentially deep as scum.

And you BB just think I am being defensive and not helping, when I have been prying more reasoning out of the people who scum me to try to get more connections to me so that my flip isn’t worthless. You seem to want to dispute that narrative and call it as me just being a caught scum. I am *always* defensive when I am scum read and I *always* try to point out the flaws in the logic against me. No one gives a shit when I point at who I think is actually scum here.

The people using VCA here to justify me are being too simple - they are defaulting to “scum wouldn’t bus”, which is truthfully wrong for our community. We bus all the time.

You must not be reading my posts if you think I am not considering anything besides you being mafia. I have provided reasons why sweetandcool's town slips could be fake, and why ND and Hamilton Brian might have been bussing each other. However, you are still my top suspect, and fortunately we have 3 chances to find the remaining mafia.

I read your posts, but it doesn't change the fact that you're tunneling me.

There isn't a single thing I can do or say to change your mind here, and I accept that as your style. It's just frustrating when I know you're wrong and I can do nothing to help you see that.

Note: editted to fix the quote break

[brainbomb]

thats fine. throw that all out. Jamie put on his attorney hat and shot down my logic on your way of saying things as being scum indicative.

thats fine.

lets fast forward to what you just quoted. lets discuss the motive to suddenly start scumreading me only as soon as I voted sc. that to me looks like a good way to both survive and string up some miskills. I know what I am, and I certainly think that if you dont die, s&c is probably pretty high up there as a possibility.

the thing for s&c that is excuseable is he has slips every game and they never are real. he gaffes and it usually takes a pretty solid clean town performance by him and flips it on its head. the only difference here is he hasnt played a super clean town game, but he does have less free time than usual.

does my pushing s&c influence your decision to scumread me in any way?

[bozotheclown]

Anyways, good work Bozo, I have been seemingly inconsistent, but every post so far has been completely sincere.

Can anyone explain why worcej and not damo?

I am driving home today and will only be able to even check the thread this morning. After that it is unlikely I'll have time to do anything.

While it is not impossible that damo was trying to save ND by seeing if he could get HB or Jamie DKed, his vote change from Jamie to HB at 4 minutes put ND in the lead, and if his switch back to Jamie was a cross post, which seems likely, then he was also voting to break the tie. Therefore, I would put damo is the group of possible bussers instead of in the group of those who did not participate in DKing ND, which is you and worcej.