M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

[bozotheclown]

How do we know it is not you?

Well someone other than me knows it's not me and as far as I know it could be you.

I think both my late votes Ham to Jam and vice versa are pretty own indicative. If we assume no bussers due to game size that only leaves sweet and worcej.

I am not going to assume there was no bussing. Jamie voting for ND all day could easily be a bus, and HB's vote was placed at an optimal time for bussing credit.

brainbomb's vote for HB at EOD could also have been an attempt to save ND, so he could have gone for bussing credit in the last minute when the only other choice was to have caused a tie.

[damo666]

I'm not sure, damo, ...I don't know, there's not a tonne of info here, but why the hip-hopping of the vote? Scratching my head on that.

Doesn't mean a lot; doesn't have to mean much to anyone other than me. Just quirrels my gut a bit.

I switched from you to Jamie 14 minutes out to tie it 3-3 to see what would happen. Nothing did so I switched back leaving ND in the lead.

When brain tied it I switched back (crossposting with brain's move to ND).

[bozotheclown]

Going to push a little here.

There's no basis to any of these votes. No gut, nothing.

So, let it rip.

##Vote ND to get out of tie-ville.

Why did you pick ND over Jamie?

[damo666]

Well someone other than me knows it's not me and as far as I know it could be you.

I think both my late votes Ham to Jam and vice versa are pretty own indicative. If we assume no bussers due to game size that only leaves sweet and worcej.

I am not going to assume there was no bussing. Jamie voting for ND all day could easily be a bus, and HB's vote was placed at an optimal time for bussing credit.

brainbomb's vote for HB at EOD could also have been an attempt to save ND, so he could have gone for bussing credit in the last minute when the only other choice was to have caused a tie.

I think the order of bussing likelihood is as follows:

1. None
2. Jamie
3. brain
4. bozo
5. HamB

[bozotheclown]

I'm not sure, damo, ...I don't know, there's not a tonne of info here, but why the hip-hopping of the vote? Scratching my head on that.

Doesn't mean a lot; doesn't have to mean much to anyone other than me. Just quirrels my gut a bit.

I switched from you to Jamie 14 minutes out to tie it 3-3 to see what would happen. Nothing did so I switched back leaving ND in the lead.

When brain tied it I switched back (crossposting with brain's move to ND).

It is possible brainbomb voted for HB expecting you to switch back, which would have saved ND. Then, when you did not switch back before the last 30 seconds, he could have decided his best option was to bus.

[bozotheclown]

I am not going to assume there was no bussing. Jamie voting for ND all day could easily be a bus, and HB's vote was placed at an optimal time for bussing credit.

brainbomb's vote for HB at EOD could also have been an attempt to save ND, so he could have gone for bussing credit in the last minute when the only other choice was to have caused a tie.

I think the order of bussing likelihood is as follows:

1. None
2. Jamie
3. brain
4. bozo
5. HamB

What about 1 vs. 2+3+4+5?

[bozotheclown]

Even with the possibility of a busser, I would consider DKing worcej next based on this:

##vote sweetandcool

I think the Hamilton situation is too obviously lackluster, even for him, for me to think it's scum motivated.

I don't particularly think ND is scum here based off his level of activity.

Sweet seems like a good place to start. Would be willing to entertain a damo vote too fwiw

##vote sweetandcool

I think the Hamilton situation is too obviously lackluster, even for him, for me to think it's scum motivated.

I don't particularly think ND is scum here based off his level of activity.

Sweet seems like a good place to start. Would be willing to entertain a damo vote too fwiw

Do you think ND is typically less active as mafia than as town?

I honestly don't recall - he's been gone for awhile and I think posting volume/activity is NAI because of it.

I honestly don't recall - he's been gone for awhile and I think posting volume/activity is NAI because of it.

Why do you think ND is not mafia based on his level of activity if his activity is NAI?

The content of his posts and style.

When I pointed out the contradiction, worcej said it was the content of ND's posts that made him think ND was town, but in the first post worcej clearly said it was the level of his activity, not the content.

[brainbomb]

thats fair to speculate on but at what point did I ever unreasonably townread ND. he was an early scumlean I had for his attitudes. I asked alot of people queries in how they read ND.
I dont feel that my behavior was indicative of bussing or distancing or protecting a scum partner nor did I ignore him.

But if you reread me and find some instance where I look teamed with him or he defends me weirdly then by all means share that data

[brainbomb]

I guess its between jamie or worcej for me then.

I lean more to Jamie

[Hamilton Brian]

Going to push a little here.

There's no basis to any of these votes. No gut, nothing.

So, let it rip.

##Vote ND to get out of tie-ville.

Why did you pick ND over Jamie?

I didn't like their style. It rubbed me the wrong way, sort of like what Bona does to me. In the absence of anything even remotely more substantiative it was one of ND or sweetandcool. ND got picked.

[Hamilton Brian]

I think the order of bussing likelihood is as follows:

1. None
2. Jamie
3. brain
4. bozo
5. HamB

What do you mean "order of bussing likelihood?"

[damo666]

brainbomb's vote for HB at EOD could also have been an attempt to save ND, so he could have gone for bussing credit in the last minute when the only other choice was to have caused a tie.

I think the order of bussing likelihood is as follows:

1. None
2. Jamie
3. brain
4. bozo
5. HamB

What about 1 vs. 2+3+4+5?

50/50 ?

Something like

50
30
15
5
0

[damo666]

I think the order of bussing likelihood is as follows:

1. None
2. Jamie
3. brain
4. bozo
5. HamB

What do you mean "order of bussing likelihood?"

I think the most likely thing is there was no bussing but if there was that's the order I would place them (there can only be one or zero bussers).

[bozotheclown]

I guess its between jamie or worcej for me then.

I lean more to Jamie

Jamie questioned the ND post that I found suspicious before I did, I am not sure why he would be that committed to bussing ND when the mafia only needs 2 mis-kills.

[brainbomb]

I guess its between jamie or worcej for me then.

I lean more to Jamie

Jamie questioned the ND post that I found suspicious before I did, I am not sure why he would be that committed to bussing ND when the mafia only needs 2 mis-kills.

it corrects a self meta issue of always giving up or flaking out on bussing

[bozotheclown]

I think the order of bussing likelihood is as follows:

1. None
2. Jamie
3. brain
4. bozo
5. HamB

What about 1 vs. 2+3+4+5?

50/50 ?

Something like

50
30
15
5
0

OK, I would put brainbomb ahead of Jamie.

If you have Jamie at 30% and worcej+sweetandcool at 50%, then you must suspect Jamie more than at least one of worcej or sweetandcool. What is you order between those 3?

[damo666]

What about 1 vs. 2+3+4+5?

50/50 ?

Something like

50
30
15
5
0

OK, I would put brainbomb ahead of Jamie.

If you have Jamie at 30% and worcej+sweetandcool at 50%, then you must suspect Jamie more than at least one of worcej or sweetandcool. What is you order between those 3?

Hmmm you've caught me out that I didn't think deeply enough about the numbers. It's getting late. I'll look afresh tomorrow but gut would be worcej sweet Jamie (implying I got my numbers wrong. I probably have Jamie and brain weighted wrongly.

[bozotheclown]

Right now I would suggest DKing worcej D2, then if he is town, no-kill D3 to make it 2-1, if there are no doctor saves.

[brainbomb]

am I reading this correct you want to vote me out next? that is quite the leap from a few posts back where you presented the reasoning as to why I could be a busser

[brainbomb]

ah okay. I see what you mean