M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#921 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:10 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:57 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:55 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:54 am


Only Vecna is powerwolfing. Ham is really just unconvincing with any opinions and rdr is lurking.
rdr is always at this level of posting. it's not lurking because he does contribute thoughts
I know that. I'm not claiming they are lurking more than normal. But they are lurking and they do normally vote earlier than this. No vote is lurking, especially on an important day.
i wish bozo were here

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#922 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:10 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:02 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:01 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:53 am
that analysis makes you look better i feel, but i can't remember scumteams ever coming into a day with one dedicated miskill they're pushing as a concerted group so i'm not sure it actually reveals anything. i don't buy the narrative that the scumteam has been attempting to conduct a massive powerscum campaign from early on in d2 and d3 and failing so completely to get the kills they want
Well D3 isn't over yet. And D2 they rdrade the final decision to hit worcej instead of me, which is a clever move for the reasons I stated. If EoD2 had gone differently, perhaps they would have shifted votes differently and someone else would have died, idk. But I wouldn't say they failed D2.
rdrade= rdr made
what?

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#923 Post by sweetandcool » Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:15 am

For the record, I had really liked rdr's first day and night, and even if they were at normal levels of posting, it actually felt like they were contributing a lot.

But rdr's votes dovetail nicely with the scumteam.

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#924 Post by sweetandcool » Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:16 am

Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:10 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:02 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:01 am


Well D3 isn't over yet. And D2 they rdrade the final decision to hit worcej instead of me, which is a clever move for the reasons I stated. If EoD2 had gone differently, perhaps they would have shifted votes differently and someone else would have died, idk. But I wouldn't say they failed D2.
rdrade= rdr made
what?
I spy a typo I. The 2nd sentence. This was a correction of that typo.

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#925 Post by Vecna » Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:16 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:36 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:33 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:27 pm


Well…then we will lose eventually. But we can also delay that loss until later and find mutual ground before that.

So, you say you and sweet and kak are town.

That means all but one of the other players are wolves. Let’s get one…
true but i'm more sure on you than i am on the other 3
Sigh…

I’ve been studying up lately on risk management. There’s a bunch of different names for locking in on your first choice just because you saw it first.

Go reconsider. Go reread my last scum game.

Go just reread the game ASSUMING I’m town and see how it looks.
huh

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#926 Post by sweetandcool » Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:16 am

My phone sucks. Whatever just let me know if you can't parse the typos.

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#927 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:21 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:16 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:10 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:02 am


rdrade= rdr made
what?
I spy a typo I. The 2nd sentence. This was a correction of that typo.
i don't understand, even with correction

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#928 Post by sweetandcool » Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:29 am

Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:21 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:16 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:10 am


what?
I spy a typo I. The 2nd sentence. This was a correction of that typo.
i don't understand, even with correction
If you ever notice me type "rdrade" then mentally replace that with "rdr made".

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#929 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:37 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:29 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:21 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:16 am


I spy a typo I. The 2nd sentence. This was a correction of that typo.
i don't understand, even with correction
If you ever notice me type "rdrade" then mentally replace that with "rdr made".
yes. i got that. i don't parse the rest

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#930 Post by sweetandcool » Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:39 am

Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:37 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:29 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:21 am

i don't understand, even with correction
If you ever notice me type "rdrade" then mentally replace that with "rdr made".
yes. i got that. i don't parse the rest
Don't worry about it.

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#931 Post by Vecna » Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:07 am

Anyways, ive allowed bunny to change my mind with his recent posts.

His appeals seemed pretty good to me.

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#932 Post by Vecna » Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:09 am

meaning the only logical conclusion is that im simply wrong about 1 or 2 reads.

And im not sure where.

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#933 Post by Vecna » Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:11 am

my current best guess is that the scumteam is Bona, kak and....HB?

is HB my wrong read? I probably guess im more likely to be wrong there than on Rdrivera.

But I feel I have decent reasons to townread most of the game.

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#934 Post by Vecna » Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:12 am

is scum really just happy lurking and letting us tear eachother apart for a last minute swoop?

It seems so silly, but...either that or bunny is putting in a killer performance this last day.

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#935 Post by Vecna » Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:17 am

Anyways, im the remaining PR.

Im only sharing this to take away the scum ability to claim it last second and cause chaos resulting in an auto game loss.

Ill share my role and anything I learned of the game at EoN.

Its highly likely ill again not be around at EoD so we need to reach whatever consensus we can about who we need to axe and vote coordinated way before that.

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#936 Post by Vecna » Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:24 am

my current townpool is basically Bunny + sweet.

And im unsure about the last one, but my guess would be Rdrivera.

If bunny managed to fool me with his play today, good on him. Those were some genuine ass sounding appeals. Im not sure they were directed at the right person though, but if we get through today thats an issue y'all can figure out on a later day.

Just hoping I was indeed wrong on my gutfeelings on HB. Ive townread him falsely in previous games with similar bad reasoning, but I havent had any indications of him being a fake fucker this game like last game.

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#937 Post by Vecna » Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:30 am

Foxcastle wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 1:16 pm
If Kak and Bona are scummates, the theory would be:

1. Bona joke-busses Kak at the start of the game

2. Then shifts to Bunny and then ghug (perhaps opportunistically following Damo's vote)

3. 26 min before EOD, he busses Kak again. Before he votes, Kak is leading Damo 4-3, so this looks good for Bona if Kak flip scum, but he doesn't actually push Kak into the lead out of a tie. This makes sense for a scummate to do—if he's bussing, he either gets credit or he gets to move off for a bigger swing in the wagons.

4. And that's exactly what happens: Bona moves off Kak with one minute to go, breaking a 5-5 tie between Kak and Damo to put Damo in the lead 6-4.
Foxcastle wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 1:30 pm
So, Kak-Bona-Hamilton (with Rdr an outside chance).

##VOTE BONA
Oh damn

Its the exact conclusion Fox already reached yesterday.

Is this simply it?

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#938 Post by Vecna » Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:33 am

Like, his EoN reads say something slightly different, but scum wasnt aware of that yet when they entered the kill.

Id totally see Bona convince his team that noone ever listens to the dead here anyway.

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#939 Post by Vecna » Tue Jul 25, 2023 8:08 am

I have a feeling this game will either end today, or be decided in a 3way between Rdr, bunny and Bona (where bunny will have a hard choice)

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#940 Post by BunnyGo » Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:30 am

Vecna wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:30 am
Foxcastle wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 1:16 pm
If Kak and Bona are scummates, the theory would be:

1. Bona joke-busses Kak at the start of the game

2. Then shifts to Bunny and then ghug (perhaps opportunistically following Damo's vote)

3. 26 min before EOD, he busses Kak again. Before he votes, Kak is leading Damo 4-3, so this looks good for Bona if Kak flip scum, but he doesn't actually push Kak into the lead out of a tie. This makes sense for a scummate to do—if he's bussing, he either gets credit or he gets to move off for a bigger swing in the wagons.

4. And that's exactly what happens: Bona moves off Kak with one minute to go, breaking a 5-5 tie between Kak and Damo to put Damo in the lead 6-4.
Foxcastle wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 1:30 pm
So, Kak-Bona-Hamilton (with Rdr an outside chance).

##VOTE BONA
Oh damn

Its the exact conclusion Fox already reached yesterday.

Is this simply it?
Did he neg me into town reading him? If so I’m impressed.

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