M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

[BunnyGo]

i don't accept your premise

Well…then we will lose eventually. But we can also delay that loss until later and find mutual ground before that.

So, you say you and sweet and kak are town.

That means all but one of the other players are wolves. Let’s get one…

true but i'm more sure on you than i am on the other 3

Sigh…

I’ve been studying up lately on risk management. There’s a bunch of different names for locking in on your first choice just because you saw it first.

Go reconsider. Go reread my last scum game.

Go just reread the game ASSUMING I’m town and see how it looks.

[BunnyGo]

Well…then we will lose eventually. But we can also delay that loss until later and find mutual ground before that.

So, you say you and sweet and kak are town.

That means all but one of the other players are wolves. Let’s get one…

true but i'm more sure on you than i am on the other 3

Sigh…

I’ve been studying up lately on risk management. There’s a bunch of different names for locking in on your first choice just because you saw it first.

Go reconsider. Go reread my last scum game.

Go just reread the game ASSUMING I’m town and see how it looks.

The game is slow. There’s nothing to catch up on. Go be a hero for town.

[BunnyGo]

true but i'm more sure on you than i am on the other 3

Sigh…

I’ve been studying up lately on risk management. There’s a bunch of different names for locking in on your first choice just because you saw it first.

Go reconsider. Go reread my last scum game.

Go just reread the game ASSUMING I’m town and see how it looks.

The game is slow. There’s nothing to catch up on. Go be a hero for town.

Give me some HW too. Whom should I reread and from what POV?

[sweetandcool]

If I'm town, should I consider Bunny scum? Their behaviour is so baffling in a MILO situation.

[BunnyGo]

If I'm town, should I consider Bunny scum? Their behaviour is so baffling in a MILO situation.

What’s baffling to you about it?

[BunnyGo]

If I'm town, should I consider Bunny scum? Their behaviour is so baffling in a MILO situation.

What’s baffling to you about it?

One of my town reads is voting me.

We lose if:

I’m right that bona is town and I cannot convince him to vote with me somewhere else

Or

I’m wrong and bona is a wolf and he convinces a single town to join him.

I’m pretty sure I’m right about him though. So. What should I do in YOUR esteemed opinion in such a situation?

[BunnyGo]

If I'm town, should I consider Bunny scum? Their behaviour is so baffling in a MILO situation.

You meanwhile have consistently played differently than either of your known town games.

Why would you do that? You’re clever enough to TRY to mimic yourself, but I don’t think you get the motivation right in your acting.

[Hamilton Brian]

Town reads from the x-number of people that offered EoN...

Kak: Rivera, Sweet
Fox: Vecna, Bunny, HB
HB: Fox, Vecna
Sweet: Kak, Vecna, Bunny
Bunny: Kak, Bona

Unless it's further back, didn't receive anything from Vecna or Rivera.

Why is this important right now? I don't know if it is. Does it present any pattern or information?

[Hamilton Brian]

Day 2 Vote:
I am not sure how much the early day impacted results. It did mean that we didn't get input from a clear town in Worcej.

Worcej (clear town) was voted on by Bunny (who chose to End, again), sweet, and rivera. How does this vote happen...do mafia avoid it? 1, 2, or all on it?

[BunnyGo]

Day 2 Vote:
I am not sure how much the early day impacted results. It did mean that we didn't get input from a clear town in Worcej.

Worcej (clear town) was voted on by Bunny (who chose to End, again), sweet, and rivera. How does this vote happen...do mafia avoid it? 1, 2, or all on it?

Why do you say worcej was clear town?

[Hamilton Brian]

Day 1 vote

Scrambly as hell around the end with speculation that Bona would be attempting to save mafia partner Kak.

Damo: HB, Rivera, Kak, Sweet, Bona.

Was it T v T? It isn't if the Bona theory holds water.

Given the 2 days of votes, Sweet and Rivera are common denominators.

Just streaming here...how could Sweet and Rivera be mafia together.

How many mafia could have been on that Damo vote?

[BunnyGo]

Day 2 Vote:
I am not sure how much the early day impacted results. It did mean that we didn't get input from a clear town in Worcej.

Worcej (clear town) was voted on by Bunny (who chose to End, again), sweet, and rivera. How does this vote happen...do mafia avoid it? 1, 2, or all on it?

Why do you say worcej was clear town?

Also…suppose someone had saved worcej by voting on bona…how would the game have progressed?

“Oh no!” They’d claim

Someone must have saved worcej! He didn’t even post or vote! Gotta get him now! Can’t let him win by lurking!

Scum would win.

[Hamilton Brian]

Day 2 Vote:
I am not sure how much the early day impacted results. It did mean that we didn't get input from a clear town in Worcej.

Worcej (clear town) was voted on by Bunny (who chose to End, again), sweet, and rivera. How does this vote happen...do mafia avoid it? 1, 2, or all on it?

Why do you say worcej was clear town?

Was he not?

[Hamilton Brian]

Day 2 Vote:
I am not sure how much the early day impacted results. It did mean that we didn't get input from a clear town in Worcej.

Worcej (clear town) was voted on by Bunny (who chose to End, again), sweet, and rivera. How does this vote happen...do mafia avoid it? 1, 2, or all on it?

Why do you say worcej was clear town?

Also…suppose someone had saved worcej by voting on bona…how would the game have progressed?

“Oh no!” They’d claim

Someone must have saved worcej! He didn’t even post or vote! Gotta get him now! Can’t let him win by lurking!

Scum would win.

I'm not following.

[BunnyGo]

Why do you say worcej was clear town?

Also…suppose someone had saved worcej by voting on bona…how would the game have progressed?

“Oh no!” They’d claim

Someone must have saved worcej! He didn’t even post or vote! Gotta get him now! Can’t let him win by lurking!

Scum would win.

I'm not following.

How would we react to worcej being “saved” while not posting?

Would we never vote him later?

No…we’d screw up. All scum needed to do day 2 was get a non-worcej miskill and they’d win.

[BunnyGo]

Also…suppose someone had saved worcej by voting on bona…how would the game have progressed?

“Oh no!” They’d claim

Someone must have saved worcej! He didn’t even post or vote! Gotta get him now! Can’t let him win by lurking!

Scum would win.

I'm not following.

How would we react to worcej being “saved” while not posting?

Would we never vote him later?

No…we’d screw up. All scum needed to do day 2 was get a non-worcej miskill and they’d win.

So…why didn’t they?

[sweetandcool]

If I'm town, should I consider Bunny scum? Their behaviour is so baffling in a MILO situation.

What’s baffling to you about it?

One of my town reads is voting me.

We lose if:

I’m right that bona is town and I cannot convince him to vote with me somewhere else

Or

I’m wrong and bona is a wolf and he convinces a single town to join him.

I’m pretty sure I’m right about him though. So. What should I do in YOUR esteemed opinion in such a situation?

Are you okay? It's starting to feel like you've been pushing me all game because you have some sort of problem with me.

And that was what has been baffling me. You've been pushing me all game, okay fine, but you're attitude has been borderline mean-spirited. And now while I've been trying to teamwork with players that were online, you come on and degrade me and push disunity. (Yes, I could be scum trying to mislead Kak and Bona, but still).

Bona scumreads you for it, while I've been trying to push past it. But this latest push by you is starting to push me away from being able to townread you.

[BunnyGo]

I'm not following.

How would we react to worcej being “saved” while not posting?

Would we never vote him later?

No…we’d screw up. All scum needed to do day 2 was get a non-worcej miskill and they’d win.

So…why didn’t they?

Option 1: Bona is wolf

[Hamilton Brian]

Ugh, I am still not getting it. Sorry Bunny. Let me sit with it for a bit; I don't want to pursue a conversation that will frustrate me and yourself.

[BunnyGo]

What’s baffling to you about it?

One of my town reads is voting me.

We lose if:

I’m right that bona is town and I cannot convince him to vote with me somewhere else

Or

I’m wrong and bona is a wolf and he convinces a single town to join him.

I’m pretty sure I’m right about him though. So. What should I do in YOUR esteemed opinion in such a situation?

Are you okay? It's starting to feel like you've been pushing me all game because you have some sort of problem with me.

And that was what has been baffling me. You've been pushing me all game, okay fine, but you're attitude has been borderline mean-spirited. And now while I've been trying to teamwork with players that were online, you come on and degrade me and push disunity. (Yes, I could be scum trying to mislead Kak and Bona, but still).

Bona scumreads you for it, while I've been trying to push past it. But this latest push by you is starting to push me away from being able to townread you.

I don't think I've been degrading you lately. Not since we agreed you should have PMd GM. I'm merely commenting on my mental model of you.

I'm trying to find the last town...and it's hard when you KEEP not saying what I expect you to say.