M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#641 Post by sweetandcool » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:00 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:50 pm
worcej (3) BunnyGo* sweetandcool rdrivera2005
Bonatogether (2) Foxcastle Vecna
BunnyGo (1) Bonatogether
sweetandcool (1) Hamilton Brian

End-votes (1/9):
BunnyGo

Highest end-vote count was 1 for sweetandcool at 23:43 before deadline.

Non-votes

Kakarroto
worcej

Non Voters must vote or be eliminated/replaced
What?!?

Insanity for a shortened day on the weekend.

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#642 Post by brainbomb » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:03 pm

Phase has ended

Formal Warning
Do not game the bot system
Your vote must be valid and must be picked up by the bot to count
Voting in a way to hide votes from the bot will result in modkill in all future instances.

Worcej has died he was Goblin Ski Patrol a Vanilla Town

Kakarroto failed to vote and has been warned to vote properly moving forward.

Night has begun
What can I say? I'm survivin'
Crawling out these sheets to see another day

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#643 Post by brainbomb » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:26 pm

You may now post.
What can I say? I'm survivin'
Crawling out these sheets to see another day

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#644 Post by sweetandcool » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:04 pm

I think the council should consider a rule revision for the next game.

The day shortener can be powerful because the lack of time really hampers town's decision making, and on a weekend when most people are extra busy it is unsurprising that several players were able to engage very little or not even at all. Worcej didn't even post and Kak was only here beginning of day with a (presumably accidental) invalid vote.

I think we should consider making it a rule that any game that potentially has a day shortener should also require players to check in at least once during the first 24 hours of a day.

If that were the rule, then mod kills would be a logical and appropriate punishment for non-voters. Without that rule, it seems like an overboard reaction, and unfairly makes me suspicious of Kak.

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#645 Post by sweetandcool » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:06 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:48 pm
I don’t think it’s Worcej, but I also think that the night shortened is going to allow a scum to not participate and then say “oH nO, i MiSsED thE vOTe!” And that’s Kak (which fits my theory) and Worcej (which doesn’t).

So I’m a little torn but I’m not going to be doing EOD and so I’m inclined to stay where I am.
I also was thinking this. Though it seems everybody could fit the bill except you and I and possibly Bona who was prepared not to make it.

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#646 Post by sweetandcool » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:08 pm

This game is tainted to me now. I guess vote Kak tomorrow. And if they are Town, oh well.

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#647 Post by sweetandcool » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:10 pm

And did I miss in the rules that the day being shortened would be announced like 6 hours into the day?? Rather than right at start of day when players would most likely see it?

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#648 Post by sweetandcool » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:13 pm

I was a bit upset about it earlier, but I shrugged and told myself that the GM can't always be on top of things and mistakes happen.

But on top of warning us after 6 hours have elapsed, we also get a last minute draconian warning about non voters being modkilled? WTF???




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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#652 Post by sweetandcool » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:18 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:03 pm
Phase has ended

Formal Warning
Do not game the bot system
Your vote must be valid and must be picked up by the bot to count
Voting in a way to hide votes from the bot will result in modkill in all future instances.

Worcej has died he was Goblin Ski Patrol a Vanilla Town

Kakarroto failed to vote and has been warned to vote properly moving forward.

Night has begun
Is that really true? I thought it was perfectly valid Mafia strategy (or Town), to make a fake vote.

Obviously following that up with never actually voting is a problem though.

But fake votes are unlawful? Since when????

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#653 Post by Foxcastle » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:22 pm

I would recommend holding this aside until after the game. It’s not something that’s going to be productively discussed or resolved during.


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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#655 Post by sweetandcool » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:24 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:22 pm
I would recommend holding this aside until after the game. It’s not something that’s going to be productively discussed or resolved during.
Perhaps, but it's important to me to understand the rules. I don't want to be modkilled out of the blue.

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#656 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:27 pm

sweetandcool wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:08 pm
This game is tainted to me now. I guess vote Kak tomorrow. And if they are Town, oh well.
Damn dude. Wtf?

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#657 Post by sweetandcool » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:32 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:27 pm
sweetandcool wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:08 pm
This game is tainted to me now. I guess vote Kak tomorrow. And if they are Town, oh well.
Damn dude. Wtf?
Yes! GM threatens modkills to non-voters. Proceeds not to kill Kak. Not that I think modkill was appropriate, and on top of that Kak had attempted to vote at least, but still, very fishy not following through on a GM threat.

Of course, it could also be because the game would immediately end, but GM should follow through or not try to enforce it in the first place.

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#658 Post by Vecna » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:34 pm

damn, thats a pretty bad outcome. Not even a single vote move in the last 3 hours.

Guess you were right Fox

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#659 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:48 pm

sweetandcool wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:32 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:27 pm
sweetandcool wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:08 pm
This game is tainted to me now. I guess vote Kak tomorrow. And if they are Town, oh well.
Damn dude. Wtf?
Yes! GM threatens modkills to non-voters. Proceeds not to kill Kak. Not that I think modkill was appropriate, and on top of that Kak had attempted to vote at least, but still, very fishy not following through on a GM threat.

Of course, it could also be because the game would immediately end, but GM should follow through or not try to enforce it in the first place.
No. I meant the whining. From you. Cmon and play.

I think even brain recognized that it wasn’t INTENTIONAL.

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Re: M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

#660 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:49 pm

Vecna wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:34 pm
damn, thats a pretty bad outcome. Not even a single vote move in the last 3 hours.

Guess you were right Fox
Yeah…

What do you make of it?

And what do you conclude of the use of the day shortening?

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