M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

[BunnyGo]

shit...I think sweet townslipped.

##unvote

oh of course now you're changing course

go read his post and see if you see it.

[BunnyGo]

sweet! Sweet is here! go answer my questions, quick!

[sweetandcool]

sweet! Sweet is here! go answer my questions, quick!

Wife is watching me like a hawk, don't hold your breath right now, sorry.

Very baffled by this township claim, but I suppose I'll get to the bottom of it later.

[BunnyGo]

sweet! Sweet is here! go answer my questions, quick!

Wife is watching me like a hawk, don't hold your breath right now, sorry.

Very baffled by this township claim, but I suppose I'll get to the bottom of it later.

...

That's...

Sigh...you make this very very hard.

[sweetandcool]

sweet! Sweet is here! go answer my questions, quick!

Wife is watching me like a hawk, don't hold your breath right now, sorry.

Very baffled by this township claim, but I suppose I'll get to the bottom of it later.

...

That's...

Sigh...you make this very very hard.

Sorry ):

I check in and read frequently. But near the end of the (IRL) day I tend to spend time with my wife, who would be annoyed with me if I were spending excessive time on my phone.

So I tend not to post or think much.

[sweetandcool]

Nothing like a shortened day to kick some energy into me.

I guess I'll look at the content of D1 and see if there are clues but I'm feeling doubtful.

To anyone who wants to vote me, I can kind of understand, but given D1 Kak and I are likely paired and Kak seems pretty town. Consequently, I look fairly town too.

Given the day shorten I would say Mafia wants us to go with the current momentum.

Current momentum, provided by Bunny is to vote town sweetandcool, or maybe Mafia expects me to keep pushing Fox.

Therefore, we'll start with ##VOTE BunnyGo

(I'm also by default okay with the strategy of voting out low posters, currently Vecna)

Explain to me why you're paired with kak. Please use small words and simple logical conclusions. Never assume something is "obvious". None of your sentences above made any sense at all.

Well, it's what I concluded from my VCA analysis. Right when Kak looked most dire I peeled off, conveniently to a non-wagon. If one were to suppose we were scummates, this behaviour would make sense, and you could even point towards my initial vote as a form of distancing or something, since it never appeared all that serious to anyone else.

So I conclude that if sweetandcool is Mafia then Kak is likely Mafia.

Conversely, when Kak made their first "self-defense" vote, they could have voted sweetandcool and put me into the lead, but instead voted damo, an inferior vote in regards to pure self-defense.

Consequently, I can conclude that Kak did this because either we are scummates and/or Kak was confident their scumbuddies would save them, or they are town.

Later Kak behaviour indicates town to me.

[sweetandcool]

I still have to do new analysis, but I suspect the ghug NK may well exonerate or possibly condemn Fox.

I'm switching to my 2nd vote because Bunny's vibing here.

##VOTE Vecna

[sweetandcool]

Woah, Kak didn't actually fully translate that German card earlier.

Care to explain this? "(c)1994 Zauberer der Küste" (I know)

The question is, was Kak trying to encode some information, was it an honest mistake, or was it a scumslip?

Thoughts?

[Vecna]

guess you guys deserve some attention.

[Vecna]

im currently reading the game, and im gonna focus on a few things;

Rdrivera stances. We normally vibe quite well on a lot of things. And when I scumread him over nonsense he'll be aggresive about it generally or at least a bit snark or suspicious.

Bunny doing any type of town leading.

I guess Ghug died, so i can disregard that.

Can sweet recapture the obv-town vibe from last game.

I generally cant read fox for shit all I think, but ill try to sniff some shit.

Ill be most interested in Kakkarot and how people treated him. I was fairly sure of the get-go he was scum, just like last game - but he very effectively handled it last game. Here he seemed much more scared and non-interactive with suspicion. Also, I was really surprised by his walls of shit. To me that appears like it is intended to be "look at me, im VT!". But id feel an actual VT wouldnt be acting like that. They shouldnt want scum to know theyre a VT since that helps scum with NK decisions.

Who else is even in this game; top of my head its Worcej? Bona, need to pay attention to him too....Last person is......ugh

[Vecna]

Ah right, HB. Can probably disregard him in my reading since ive already found him to be town.

[Vecna]

So far I am liking ghug and Bona.

Probably because ghug was pocketing me by saying we were almost the same. And probably because Bona is feeling comfortably similar to M79.

I'm scumreading Bunny because they feel scummy. But actually, I've found the more scummy Bunny seems, the more Town they actually are.

Na, Bunny is just trying to stir up some drama, which would be good for the game.

[s]Conversely, worcej is trying to convince us the game[/s]

Crap, it turns out Bona and Bunny were the two players complaining about the game being dead. This is scummy talk. But I think Bunny is Town, and I don't really want to vote Bona yet.

I think I'll stick with Kak for now, maybe he'll sing for us if we keep up the pressure.

Not a whole lot of sweet and cool stuck with me, but this post shows some interesting progression. The back and forth of thought would prove to be a+ scum trickery if that was made up.

[Vecna]

So far I am liking ghug and Bona.

Probably because ghug was pocketing me by saying we were almost the same. And probably because Bona is feeling comfortably similar to M79.

I'm scumreading Bunny because they feel scummy. But actually, I've found the more scummy Bunny seems, the more Town they actually are.

Na, Bunny is just trying to stir up some drama, which would be good for the game.

[s]Conversely, worcej is trying to convince us the game[/s]

Crap, it turns out Bona and Bunny were the two players complaining about the game being dead. This is scummy talk. But I think Bunny is Town, and I don't really want to vote Bona yet.

I think I'll stick with Kak for now, maybe he'll sing for us if we keep up the pressure.

I like this post but I also didn't like this post, this makes sense?

I like the content but I don't feel that obvious town tone like last game where I knew D1 I will need to kill Seeet.

And right on the next page Rdrivera makes the exact same comment on sweet.

Well, not quite the same, but he indicates he's looking for the exact same thing. This is usually exactly what I look for in Rdrivera.

I know from quick browsing the bot that Rdrivera is not participating a lot this game, but these snippets are usually a strong indicator of town mindmeld.

It also tells me something about my own process; I really wanted to like the post, and I looked at the patterns of argument, rather than the tone-feel. Thought patterns can still be faked. I feel its hard though, but sweet might be the type of player to be that trickery.

Still, I feel decently good about both sweet and Rdrivera.

More of these posts will lock it in.

[Vecna]

So far I am liking ghug and Bona.

Probably because ghug was pocketing me by saying we were almost the same. And probably because Bona is feeling comfortably similar to M79.

I'm scumreading Bunny because they feel scummy. But actually, I've found the more scummy Bunny seems, the more Town they actually are.

Na, Bunny is just trying to stir up some drama, which would be good for the game.

[s]Conversely, worcej is trying to convince us the game[/s]

Crap, it turns out Bona and Bunny were the two players complaining about the game being dead. This is scummy talk. But I think Bunny is Town, and I don't really want to vote Bona yet.

I think I'll stick with Kak for now, maybe he'll sing for us if we keep up the pressure.

I like this post but I also didn't like this post, this makes sense?

I like the content but I don't feel that obvious town tone like last game where I knew D1 I will need to kill Seeet.

EXACTLY! It looks crafted in a way that suggests he's trying to appear like sweet while also not screwing up again like he did with his statement about kak in the opening.

interesting. Bunny agreeing instead of making points himself.

Probably has some meaning. pin

[Vecna]

I think I want damo, worcej, Rd, or Kak today. Sweet is the closest thing I have to a townread but it's not an especially compelling one.

This post has enough cross-over feels that would warrant a kill on Ghug.

Worcej so far not leaving any impressions whatsoever.

Kak on the far scummy side.

I think he's potentially 2/3 in this post. excellent reason for a NK.

[Vecna]

Ghug feels off this game.

im hardly a good judge on all things ghug, clearly, but I also felt it

Why Vecna is playing scummy like this on purpose? It's weird and not helpful.

Very minor; frustration seems a little genuine - although I didnt intend that post to be scummy.

[Vecna]

I think I want damo, worcej, Rd, or Kak today. Sweet is the closest thing I have to a townread but it's not an especially compelling one.

Anything you can say to convince me? I was thinking not Rd or Kak today. Probably not damo either.

I really dont understand what in the game at this point wouldve caused Bunny not to want to vote Damo or Kak.

Bunny, you remember and care to enlighten that point?

Regardless, the question/attempt at dialogue is a minor positive.

[Vecna]

Do you have anything to imply about the post, or maybe more clearly...what seems crafted? How would you have expected sweet to compose a post if they WEREN'T trying to "appear?"

The strange pauses in the post where Sweet clearly said an opinion, then went back and checked that the opinion was false, but left it in the post so we could see him checking.

It aligns with how I normally write posts. In previous games you will see me make an argument, then change my mind mid-post. Similar to when I concluded ghug was Town in M80. Only difference here is that I tried a strikeout, rather than completing the though and then turning about.

I think I want damo, worcej, Rd, or Kak today. Sweet is the closest thing I have to a townread but it's not an especially compelling one.

I wish I understood your thought process that allows you to consider me more likely town.

I'm clearly down for Kak, and am okay with rdr. I like worcej's play so far.

More on sweet; still not feeling a very strong tone, but the content is all highly thought-displaying.

This level of thinking and expression your thought process would take a considerable amount of talent as scum. I find it all quite genuine sounding.

[Vecna]

also to add; the liking worcej's content while worcej hasnt done a whole lot seems like a very controversial opinion which scum might be scared of to be questioned on.

[Vecna]

I am town. I am mafia. I am scum.
You are town. You are mafia. You are scum.

Brian is town. Brian is mafia. Brian is scum.
Hamilton is town. Hamilton is mafia. Hamilton is scum.
Bunny is town. Bunny is mafia. Bunny is scum.
BunnyGo is town. BunnyGo is mafia. BunnyGo is scum.
sweetandcool is town. sweetandcool is mafia. sweetandcool is scum.
sweet is town. sweet is mafia. sweet is scum.
bonatogether is town. bonatogether is mafia. bonatogether is scum.
bona is town. bona is mafia. bona is scum.
damo666 is town. damo666 is mafia. damo666 is scum.
damo is town. damo is mafia. damo is scum.
Vecna is town. Vecna is mafia. Vecna is scum.
Vekna is town. Vekna is mafia. Vecna is scum.
Foxcastle is town. Foxcastle is mafia. Foxcastle is scum.
fox is town. fox is mafia. fox is scum.
Rdrivera is town. Rdrivera is mafia. Rdrivera is scum.
rd is town. rd is mafia. rd is scum.
Worcej is town. Worcej is mafia. Worcej is scum.
worcej is town. worcej is mafia. worcej is scum.
ghug is town. ghug is mafia. ghug is scum.
ghuggles is town. ghuggles is mafia. ghuggles is scum.
Kakarroto is town. Kakarroto is mafia. Kakarroto is scum.
kak is town. kak is mafia. kak is scum.

Why are you mafia? Why are you scum?
I am PR. I am White Knight. I am The Virgin. I am Serra Angel. I am Angel.
I am Wandering Emperor. I am the Wandering Emperor. I am the 2 shot Day Exiler.
I am Squirrel Wrangler. I am the Squirrel Wrangler. I am the Hider.
I am Chatterfang Squirrel General. I am the Chatterfang Squirrel General. I am the Odd Night Watcher.
I am Prodigal Sorcerer. I am the Prodigal Sorcerer. I am the Even Night Watcher.
I am Aquameoba. I am the Aquameoba. I am the Vote Reversal.
Are you Shivan Dragon? Are you the Shivan Dragon? Are you the Arsonist?
Are you Kird Ape? Are you the Kird Ape? Are you a Goon? Are you the Goon?
Are you Orcish Lumberjack? Are you the Orcish Lumberjack? Are you the Day Shortener?
Are you Black Knight? Are you the Black Knight? Are you the Woebringer?
Are you Plague Rat? Are you the Plague Rat? Are you a goon? Are you the goon?
Are you Vindictive Lich? Are you the Vindictive Lich? Are you the Phrase Vanillizer?

Oh boy, that's the most I've ever used 'scum' in a mafia game, I believe. I feel dirty now.

im going to cc unless you retract

hold up, I never claimed anything here. I just wrote that all out to create save phrases. Don't waste any cc's against me.

Also, clearly not getting the joke here, and actually afraid of getting into something with a town PR.

This feels a bit like posturing.