M81: A Night To Remember [GAME THREAD]

[Ezio]

Here's an interesting consideration.

##Vote Rdriveria

RD is my second choice. I'd vastly prefer Chaqa, but this is a solid second choice imo.

[rdrivera2005]

Here's an interesting consideration.

##Vote Rdriveria

I understand people voting me because I am the less active player, but this is something I can't fight against.

But if you flip me, please kill Ezio last day, he is just tryng to push the two miskills he need to win (me and Chaqa).

[Jamiet99uk]

Here's an interesting consideration.

##Vote Rdriveria

I understand people voting me because I am the less active player, but this is something I can't fight against.

But if you flip me, please kill Ezio last day, he is just tryng to push the two miskills he need to win (me and Chaqa).

Why do you townread Chaqa?

[DemonRHK]

Here's an interesting consideration.

##Vote Rdriveria

I understand people voting me because I am the less active player, but this is something I can't fight against.

But if you flip me, please kill Ezio last day, he is just tryng to push the two miskills he need to win (me and Chaqa).

Your voiting is nearly the same as Chaqa, more than the inactivity (at least that would be my resoning)

[DemonRHK]

Do you think Chaqa's "woe is me" crybaby posts are scum indicative?

I've made the play before as scum. but that us part of what gives me pause. Already lost one town to suihammer.

IOne of the biggest things is that if he is town, there is no way scum kills him tonight. If he doesn't get daykilled, he is a shoe-in to F3

[rdrivera2005]

Here's an interesting consideration.

##Vote Rdriveria

I understand people voting me because I am the less active player, but this is something I can't fight against.

But if you flip me, please kill Ezio last day, he is just tryng to push the two miskills he need to win (me and Chaqa).

Why do you townread Chaqa?

I townread him because the D1 vote on HB when there is no need to scum to buss, he keep the wagon viable with me and Sweet. And he choose to push Aaro and Ghug instead of Damo, which I think is a townie move considering I expect last scum to buss/distance from Damo after the way he defended HB on D1. The last scum knew he has to run the distance, it doesn't look how Chaqa played D2 and D3.

Why you scumread me?

[rdrivera2005]

Here's an interesting consideration.

##Vote Rdriveria

I understand people voting me because I am the less active player, but this is something I can't fight against.

But if you flip me, please kill Ezio last day, he is just tryng to push the two miskills he need to win (me and Chaqa).

Your voiting is nearly the same as Chaqa, more than the inactivity (at least that would be my resoning)

And this is one of the reasons why I townread him.

[rdrivera2005]

Do you think Chaqa's "woe is me" crybaby posts are scum indicative?

I've made the play before as scum. but that us part of what gives me pause. Already lost one town to suihammer.

IOne of the biggest things is that if he is town, there is no way scum kills him tonight. If he doesn't get daykilled, he is a shoe-in to F3

I don't get this kind of reasoning. We have one possible miskill, we should target scum and not try to define who is the last 3. If we kill scum there isn't last 3.

[DemonRHK]

Do you think Chaqa's "woe is me" crybaby posts are scum indicative?

I've made the play before as scum. but that us part of what gives me pause. Already lost one town to suihammer.

IOne of the biggest things is that if he is town, there is no way scum kills him tonight. If he doesn't get daykilled, he is a shoe-in to F3

I don't get this kind of reasoning. We have one possible miskill, we should target scum and not try to define who is the last 3. If we kill scum there isn't last 3.

So a hypothetical:

Say we kill Ezio today. Then we will say one of me and Jamie get the NK. Are you snap voting the other?

[DemonRHK]

There are three viable options today: Chaqa, rdr, and Ezio.

Chaqa's biggest stike against him, frankly, is being the highest activity of the three.

Of the two good days of voting we can look at, neither rdr or Ezio was active for either, both failing to post in the last half hour, or vote anywhere In the last few hours.

While each of those two did end on one good wagon, Ezio's D2 on damo was not cast anywhere near him being a live wagon, and there is a very real chance that he may have been scum stuck along fro the ride. At least rdr's HB vote was in a tight multi-wagon situation, but it was a couple hours out and HB was not in serious danger at the time of his last post. AFK scum not out of the question.

...rdr is the best kill today, in my opinion. I say that while on Chaqa, and completely understand how that looks. but we need an info day BADLY.

[Jamiet99uk]

I've made the play before as scum. but that us part of what gives me pause. Already lost one town to suihammer.

IOne of the biggest things is that if he is town, there is no way scum kills him tonight. If he doesn't get daykilled, he is a shoe-in to F3

I don't get this kind of reasoning. We have one possible miskill, we should target scum and not try to define who is the last 3. If we kill scum there isn't last 3.

So a hypothetical:

Say we kill Ezio today. Then we will say one of me and Jamie get the NK. Are you snap voting the other?

I like this query.

[Jamiet99uk]

I understand people voting me because I am the less active player, but this is something I can't fight against.

But if you flip me, please kill Ezio last day, he is just tryng to push the two miskills he need to win (me and Chaqa).

Why do you townread Chaqa?

I townread him because the D1 vote on HB when there is no need to scum to buss, he keep the wagon viable with me and Sweet. And he choose to push Aaro and Ghug instead of Damo, which I think is a townie move considering I expect last scum to buss/distance from Damo after the way he defended HB on D1. The last scum knew he has to run the distance, it doesn't look how Chaqa played D2 and D3.

Why you scumread me?

I will answer that well before EoD.

[rdrivera2005]

I've made the play before as scum. but that us part of what gives me pause. Already lost one town to suihammer.

IOne of the biggest things is that if he is town, there is no way scum kills him tonight. If he doesn't get daykilled, he is a shoe-in to F3

I don't get this kind of reasoning. We have one possible miskill, we should target scum and not try to define who is the last 3. If we kill scum there isn't last 3.

So a hypothetical:

Say we kill Ezio today. Then we will say one of me and Jamie get the NK. Are you snap voting the other?

I think game will end. If it didn't I need to reevaluate as I townread you three. Right now I would say Jamiet>Chaqa>Drmon but I confess I didn't put much thought on it.

I really don't understand you (and others) wanting to vote to get info today. Say you kill me today and I flip town (you Jamiet and Ezio will vote me and probably me and Chaqa vote Ezio). What info you get from this? Ezio and Jamiet is voting me and Ezio is already keeping the option to vote me open, so I can't see what info you get.

[DemonRHK]

I don't get this kind of reasoning. We have one possible miskill, we should target scum and not try to define who is the last 3. If we kill scum there isn't last 3.

So a hypothetical:

Say we kill Ezio today. Then we will say one of me and Jamie get the NK. Are you snap voting the other?

I think game will end. If it didn't I need to reevaluate as I townread you three. Right now I would say Jamiet>Chaqa>Drmon but I confess I didn't put much thought on it.

I really don't understand you (and others) wanting to vote to get info today. Say you kill me today and I flip town (you Jamiet and Ezio will vote me and probably me and Chaqa vote Ezio). What info you get from this? Ezio and Jamiet is voting me and Ezio is already keeping the option to vote me open, so I can't see what info you get.

Allow me to counter:

We 4-1 Ezio and he flips town. today is now as worthless as the last 2.

[Chaqa]

I'm pretty set that Jamie is town.

My vote for Ezio is simply on the fact that he unequivocally thinks I am the mafia. He does not leave room for interpretation. Frankly, I'm pretty annoyed because I do see how my strategy yesterday probably pushed him into this.

That said, I don't really know if I think he's mafia.

Frankly, I mildly townread all of you at points. I find myself wanting to vote Demon, if anyone, which will probably trigger Ezio so bad his brain will break, but I don't know what he wants from me at this point so I'm also fine voting him out to prevent my miskill at Final 3 and also because he has a 1/4 chance of being scum.

[DemonRHK]

I'm pretty set that Jamie is town.

My vote for Ezio is simply on the fact that he unequivocally thinks I am the mafia. He does not leave room for interpretation. Frankly, I'm pretty annoyed because I do see how my strategy yesterday probably pushed him into this.

That said, I don't really know if I think he's mafia.

Frankly, I mildly townread all of you at points. I find myself wanting to vote Demon, if anyone, which will probably trigger Ezio so bad his brain will break, but I don't know what he wants from me at this point so I'm also fine voting him out to prevent my miskill at Final 3 and also because he has a 1/4 chance of being scum.

You don't mention rdr, and there is already a vote there to keep it 2/2/1.

What are your thoughts on him? What has he done, in your opinion, that puts him outside your PoE?

[Chaqa]

I pretty much 100% agree with everything he says which is giving me a lot of pause.

[Chaqa]

Reread rivera’s ISO of day 1 to night 2 or so and I think I’m comfortable with putting him as town

So, demon and ezio left for reread

[Jamiet99uk]

OK, so. I voted Rdrivera to see if anyone would move there. That was all.

Nobody did.

So ##Vote Ezio.

[Jamiet99uk]

BTW last night Bunny and I came up with a plan to push each other to see if we could draw reactions.

Very unsporting of Mafia to kill Bunny so we couldn't do that.