M81: A Night To Remember [GAME THREAD]

[Vecna]

goddamn im on a cocky parade. thisll bite if ghug does flip town

[DemonRHK]

im gonna complete this game without ever voting a single town, and voting all the scum out.

since youve only voted damo you can still do the same thing (minus eradicating HB).

too bad youre about to fuck up a flawless record.

I could say the same thing about you? This is the high and mighty, over the nose act I expect from scum knowing they're able to get what they want over a town who is right.

I feel you're trying to goad me into getting angry. I may be in a tunnel, yes. But N3 is a little late to be trolling, no?

[Vecna]

I genuinely think were bout to win.

And i genuinely dont understand why youd scumread someone that singled out the two flipped scum as suspicious on d1 and has voted them consistently along with his 3rd scumread.

moreover, why would i be so cheerfull if im the remaining scum exactly?

theres Zero chance id be able to wim this as scum since everyone would be suspicious as all hell if i live to the end.

[brainbomb]

I genuinely think were bout to win.

And i genuinely dont understand why youd scumread someone that singled out the two flipped scum as suspicious on d1 and has voted them consistently along with his 3rd scumread.

moreover, why would i be so cheerfull if im the remaining scum exactly?

theres Zero chance id be able to wim this as scum since everyone would be suspicious as all hell if i live to the end.

you didnt answer ghugs query about me. but the rest of this tone reads as town. and that underlined part is true for ezio and jamie and me. if any of us are alive in a final three thats when you question why

[Vecna]

in the event of a ghug townflip id only even consider to look at: Worcej (55%), chaqa (35%), Rdrivera (5%), jamiet (3%), brainbomb (2%).

id never vote for anyone else. And i even consider the idea of rdrivera, jamiet and brainbomb to be ludicrous.

Guess that answers your question, ghug?

[brainbomb]

I think he was floating that out there to get a feel for who to nightkill probably

[DemonRHK]

I genuinely think were bout to win.

And i genuinely dont understand why youd scumread someone that singled out the two flipped scum as suspicious on d1 and has voted them consistently along with his 3rd scumread.

moreover, why would i be so cheerfull if im the remaining scum exactly?

theres Zero chance id be able to wim this as scum since everyone would be suspicious as all hell if i live to the end.

Becuase I have seen you pull off some truly brilliant plays.

And you're the kind of masochists that enjoy trying to win from this spot.

I perport that D1 was scum theatre. There was a plan to send someone deep N0. I think that went belly up at the end of the day, you bussed for cred, then attempted to salvage the wreckage.

Ghug is a strong player, and a good scumhunter (usually), and taking him out would be good for you, and would cast doubt on me when he flips town, and I am a historically easy miskill.

[Vecna]

yeah if we kill ghug -> chaqa -> worcej there wouldnt be a single multiverse where we dont win.

but the nessacity of that followup plan is very questiobale in my mind.

[sweetandcool]

So if ghug were Mafia, what do we make of their final vote D1? Ham was in the lead but certainly not doomed and ghug's vote might even be considered the nail in the coffin.

Thoughts?

[sweetandcool]

what a nice novel take.

you can park your vote on me. well flip ghug and just win the game in the meanwhile.

ive said since n1 that the remaining 2 scum are ghug and damo. and that everyone else was varying degrees of town. aaro was the only cw to scum on d2 and my vote certainly wasnt there.

I plan to.

If you kill ghig, I am either right, or I win. And if I am right, I will be absolutly crusading for your head.

im gonna complete this game without ever voting a single town, and voting all the scum out.

since youve only voted damo you can still do the same thing (minus eradicating HB).

too bad youre about to fuck up a flawless record.

I'm waiting for brainbomb to swoop in and say: "Your voting is perfect," *narrows eyes* "too perfect".

[Vecna]

I genuinely think were bout to win.

And i genuinely dont understand why youd scumread someone that singled out the two flipped scum as suspicious on d1 and has voted them consistently along with his 3rd scumread.

moreover, why would i be so cheerfull if im the remaining scum exactly?

theres Zero chance id be able to wim this as scum since everyone would be suspicious as all hell if i live to the end.

Becuase I have seen you pull off some truly brilliant plays.

And you're the kind of masochists that enjoy trying to win from this spot.

I perport that D1 was scum theatre. There was a plan to send someone deep N0. I think that went belly up at the end of the day, you bussed for cred, then attempted to salvage the wreckage.

Ghug is a strong player, and a good scumhunter (usually), and taking him out would be good for you, and would cast doubt on me when he flips town, and I am a historically easy miskill.

I get the suspicion, but its a bit much in this situation. I only enjoy doing wacky shit as scum in PR-Heavy games. these type of games are generally a drag as scum. And doing a double bus is just terrible.

[sweetandcool]

I genuinely think were bout to win.

And i genuinely dont understand why youd scumread someone that singled out the two flipped scum as suspicious on d1 and has voted them consistently along with his 3rd scumread.

moreover, why would i be so cheerfull if im the remaining scum exactly?

theres Zero chance id be able to wim this as scum since everyone would be suspicious as all hell if i live to the end.

Becuase I have seen you pull off some truly brilliant plays.

And you're the kind of masochists that enjoy trying to win from this spot.

I perport that D1 was scum theatre. There was a plan to send someone deep N0. I think that went belly up at the end of the day, you bussed for cred, then attempted to salvage the wreckage.

Ghug is a strong player, and a good scumhunter (usually), and taking him out would be good for you, and would cast doubt on me when he flips town, and I am a historically easy miskill.

I get the suspicion, but its a bit much in this situation. I only enjoy doing wacky shit as scum in PR-Heavy games. these type of games are generally a drag as scum. And doing a double bus is just terrible.

I'll have to look at your thread to see how much you've pushed those kills.

But I don't think you deserve any town credit for your votes (but if you are town, then yes, it is quite an achievement to have only voted Mafia).

D1 you voted Ham at the last moment when it looked pretty certain they were going to flip.
D2 you voted damo at the beginning, but that wagon never really seemed viable until EoD when Ezio and aaro and I all voted damo. And in fact, you were off that wagon very early.

[Vecna]

So if ghug were Mafia, what do we make of their final vote D1? Ham was in the lead but certainly not doomed and ghug's vote might even be considered the nail in the coffin.

Thoughts?

As RHK mentions; they needed someone to go deep, and it was clear at that point it wasnt going to be damo or HB.

But i feel the more important reason was that scum is so much more sensitive to how poorly certain votes will be perceived. HB changing to me at that time would be perceived by a teammate as a terrible votechange that would garner attention and mote votes, thus it was a critical junction.

Plus, the votechange without outside knowledge just makes very little sense.
Ghug wanted to kill chaqa. he had no reason to swap to HB, unless he knew he needed to get some form of cred.

If he wouldve flipped chaqa d1 it wouldve also looked terrible for his whole team, and a similair path wouldve happened as we saw now.

[ghug]

what a nice novel take.

you can park your vote on me. well flip ghug and just win the game in the meanwhile.

ive said since n1 that the remaining 2 scum are ghug and damo. and that everyone else was varying degrees of town. aaro was the only cw to scum on d2 and my vote certainly wasnt there.

I plan to.

If you kill ghig, I am either right, or I win. And if I am right, I will be absolutly crusading for your head.

im gonna complete this game without ever voting a single town, and voting all the scum out.

since youve only voted damo you can still do the same thing (minus eradicating HB).

too bad youre about to fuck up a flawless record.

No u

[ghug]

I think he was floating that out there to get a feel for who to nightkill probably

When did you become so convinced I'm scum?

I floated it because you, while seeming townie behaviorally, haven't voted in a way that makes you look good like many others have

[Vecna]

anyways, since I actually have the information of my allignment i have a leg up on you guys since d1 gave me more information.

I know that HB was looking for a town misskill since he kept swapping on and off me. So to me it doesnt look like hes deciding between a bus or a towny kill, since he tried to give traction to a wagon. Same for damo.

Hence why ghugs focus on chaqa also looks to be motivated to save his allies, right up untill he realizes its becoming too dangerous to be on the wrong side of things.

[ghug]

So if ghug were Mafia, what do we make of their final vote D1? Ham was in the lead but certainly not doomed and ghug's vote might even be considered the nail in the coffin.

Thoughts?

As RHK mentions; they needed someone to go deep, and it was clear at that point it wasnt going to be damo or HB.

But i feel the more important reason was that scum is so much more sensitive to how poorly certain votes will be perceived. HB changing to me at that time would be perceived by a teammate as a terrible votechange that would garner attention and mote votes, thus it was a critical junction.

Plus, the votechange without outside knowledge just makes very little sense.
Ghug wanted to kill chaqa. he had no reason to swap to HB, unless he knew he needed to get some form of cred.

If he wouldve flipped chaqa d1 it wouldve also looked terrible for his whole team, and a similair path wouldve happened as we saw now.

If they were positioning me to go deep, why did damo make posts so overtly stating he was motivated by saving me? I was also more of a wagon than damo at that point, so I don't see why it clearly wasn't going to be damo but was going to be HB.

I voted HB cause the day was basically over and I don't like ties.

[ghug]

anyways, since I actually have the information of my allignment i have a leg up on you guys since d1 gave me more information.

I know that HB was looking for a town misskill since he kept swapping on and off me. So to me it doesnt look like hes deciding between a bus or a towny kill, since he tried to give traction to a wagon. Same for damo.

Hence why ghugs focus on chaqa also looks to be motivated to save his allies, right up untill he realizes its becoming too dangerous to be on the wrong side of things.

anyways, since I actually have the information of my alignment i have a leg up on you guys since d1 gave me more information.

HB moved from Chaqa to you to put us four in a tie for the lead. If you won't even engage me while I'm alive, at least consider why this happened once I'm dead.

[ghug]

ghug
Ezio
Sweet
Vecna
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Worcej
Rd
Brain
RHK
Jamie
---
Chaqa

Would love if someone would help me sort the middle section but it seems like that's not happening at this point.

[DemonRHK]

I'll have to look at your thread to see how much you've pushed those kills.

But I don't think you deserve any town credit for your votes (but if you are town, then yes, it is quite an achievement to have only voted Mafia).

D1 you voted Ham at the last moment when it looked pretty certain they were going to flip.
D2 you voted damo at the beginning, but that wagon never really seemed viable until EoD when Ezio and aaro and I all voted damo. And in fact, you were off that wagon very early.

As much as I am loathe to admit it, much of the arguement of town for Vecna is the votes on him less than by him. I am saying it is scum theatre, but there is a loooot of damo and HB on and off him.