M81: A Night To Remember [GAME THREAD]

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In M51 vecna posted at 46 hour mark only. and never came back and most of his posts were gibberish. so that also doesnt really match what im seeing in this game

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M1017 vecna skipped the first 28 hours of the game and only posted in the second half of the phase. there is a trend when vecna is scum that he misses very substantial chunks of the game which is the only talking point here that could point to vecna being scum.

I will cross check if he also does this as town consistently.

[Jamiet99uk]

##VOTE Jamie

Good evening, broken record?

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M58 vecna is town and misses a 14 hour chunk of the game but is around at beginning and end and a good amount of the mid phase.

M75 vecna misses the first 18 hours then later misses 8 hours and then another 15 hours. so the data here is that when vecna high posts as town he has a life and is not a total basement dweller who sits glued to the thread all the time.

and as scum his absences are more sizable, and skip a higher avg amount of time of the game than his town games where he just leaves and comes back consistently

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I dunno what to conclude here. anybody think there is anything in this data that suggests anything valuable?

[Jamiet99uk]

Ghug’s bad vote is obviously going to move before the phase in order to save his own skin, so really it’s now damo vs aaro

I think I'm relevant too but part of the reason I'm not just jumping on aaro is that it's too early to start the final horserace.

I read that and get incredible scum vibes from that

Ditto. I was considering moving off Ghug but now I don't want to.

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in M28 RHK posted 8 times as mafia also.

so again, he posts a very minimal amount as scum

What are his posting volumes like when he is town?

How about when he is third party?

why would data about what he does as third party be worth researching here?

Im pretty sure RHK has never been a third party but I dont know. but even he has why would I spend time studying that?

[Jamiet99uk]

Nils Holgerson strikes again

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Nils Holgerson strikes again

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jamie for mvp. this is the funniest thing ive ever seen.
you even found the original art bahaha

[Jamiet99uk]

in M28 RHK posted 8 times as mafia also.

so again, he posts a very minimal amount as scum

What are his posting volumes like when he is town?

How about when he is third party?

why would data about what he does as third party be worth researching here?

Im pretty sure RHK has never been a third party but I dont know. but even he has why would I spend time studying that?

I was being facetious. Don't spend any time researching that, please.

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What are his posting volumes like when he is town?

How about when he is third party?

why would data about what he does as third party be worth researching here?

Im pretty sure RHK has never been a third party but I dont know. but even he has why would I spend time studying that?

I was being facetious. Don't spend any time researching that, please.

I was not even going to actually study vecna but I think if vecnas scum it clears ezio obviously and also clears you and probably makes the day 1 wagons

Chaqa Town
Ghug Scum
Vecna Scum

and chaqa inadvertantly passes up two scum wagons to instead push the third scum wagon.

[worcej]

I dunno what to conclude here. anybody think there is anything in this data that suggests anything valuable?

No mostly because I have always felt Vecna is someone who comes in and out sporadically as any alignment

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is there anyone else yall wanna see me do a study on. im just relaxinf. tried to go fishing and the wind is hellish. the water levels are super low too.

[ghug]

I think I'm relevant too but part of the reason I'm not just jumping on aaro is that it's too early to start the final horserace.

I read that and get incredible scum vibes from that

Ditto. I was considering moving off Ghug but now I don't want to.

There's no accounting for taste.

[Jamiet99uk]

Nils Holgerson strikes again

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jamie for mvp. this is the funniest thing ive ever seen.
you even found the original art bahaha

Glad you enjoyed it

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Who has viewed this 19 times lol

[Chaqa]

Here's my deep-dive on Damo:

Observations:

His D1 starts with some math talk and banter with Jamie. Lots of joke voting back and forth. There's a bit of that with ghug that was due to someone saying damo is good at reading ghug. He also agrees with me on not pair-claiming.

His first real read seems to be here (at 4 hours left in the day:

I know I playfully voted for ghug but i think he is town and his wagon is bad.

I think ##vote Chaqa is the way to go

I don't think there was any provided reasoning for this vote.

His next post about gameplay is here:

I've just come on for EOD only to realise that EOD id midnight for me not 11pm.

It's a tad annoying.

My preference order of the top 4 wagons is Chaqa Vecna HB ghug (though I won't vote for ghug). Will be prepared to switc to prevent a tie.

Of the single vote wagons KAK before aaro

There were still no provided reasons for his claims.

He then posts this:

The way it stands Vecna can tie the vote.

If Vecna votes Chaqa, Chaqa can move to Vecna (or let the vote be tied but that would smell of ChaqaVecna scumpair) but if Vecna votes ghug Chaqa can move to ghug which is a result I don't want so I think I have to move to Vecna.

##vote Vecna

Happy to move back to Chaqa if his wagon motors.

I don't have a degree in wagonomics, so I have no idea what to think of this. It sounds like he's saying he's voting for Vecna in order to prevent ghug from being a wagon. Again, this seems strange to say explicitly if ghug is scum. Unless damo is a risky scum player than I would expect.

He then votes for Chaqa, tries to get a flashwagon on Brain (for what appears to be no reason), and then goes back to Chaqa. He sits there for the rest of the phase (5 minutes).

Damo's first reads of N1 are: "I would be amazed if there is not at least one scum in {Chaqa, Vecna, brain, aaro} (in order of S->T)". The included people are in response a post by ghug. The only other person mentioned in ghug's post is Jamie (who damo says is town).

Damo says he's interested in brain and makes a couple of comments about him. that's at 10 hours left in N1. He doesn't reappear for 22 more hours. I know people have jobs, but that's a pretty large gap.

Damo reappears right after I counter claimed ghug. He posts his reads which I think are worth quoting because it's one of the only time he gives reads:

From day 1 voting I conclude Jamie rdr and Sweet are town.

From general vibes from posts I townread ghug, brain, Ezio and worcej

I am null on aaro, Vecna, Chaqa and demon

I am gonna join brain ##vote DemonRHK. Mainly for lack of engagement (bit hypocritical but ...)

At this point it's worth noting that he know DemonRHK is ghug's partner. There's a lot of people with low activity so he seems like a weird one to target.

The thread then melts into a puddle due to the partner counter claiming talk. Damo is super weird about it though. He refuses it for a bit. It's worth mentioning that I told him in night chat the previous night that I was considering claiming and he didn't respond.

He does that whole claiming that ghug scumslip'ed thing.

After that settles he posts some of my least favorite posts of this game:

So apparently the pairings are:

1 aaro/damo
2 Jamie/Sweet
3 brain/rdr
4 Chaqa/worcej
5 Ham/Kak
6 Ezio/Vecna
7 ghu/demon

I think pairs 2 and 3 are both TT

I also think worcej is town.

So I am down to 13 possible scumpairs.

He hasn't really backed up any of his reads at any point this game, and from what I can tell, he just added a bunch more.

He then says that from HB's vote moves, that he's going to vote chaqa.

Adding Vecna to my towncore on the basis Ham voted him

1 aaro/damo
2 Jamie/Sweet
3 brain/rdr
4 Chaqa/worcej
5 Ham/Kak
6 Ezio/Vecna
7 ghu/demon

Possible scumpairs

aaro/chaqa
aaro/ghug
aaro/demon
Chaqa/demon
Chaqa/ghug

The purple pairs are unlikely from D1 voting

So I am left with 3 pairs with the following appearance count

aaro 2
chaqa 2
demon 2

I will not vote outside these three. My order of preference is Chaqa/Aaro/Demon

It's worth noting that his two eliminations of pairs effectively just removes ghug as a possible scum from his pov. It was super weird to me at the time.

I have to go look at houses now so this is all very rushed. However, his current scum pool are still the three listed above. He's also decided that chaqa/demon isn't a possible pairing due to a post from chaqa, so he's decided I'm scum. He is currently voting for chaqa due to a comment from ghug.

Inferences:

• I think Damo and Jamie aren't scum together. I think the banter at the start of the game is too bold of a move for that.

• Damo is obsessed with ghug. Almost his entire game revolves around him. All his voting decisions during D1 were explained by him as "this will prevent votes on ghug". His only real activity in N1 is responding to a post by ghug.

• Based on that last bullet, I think my scum pair claim of ghug/damo is dead.

I have some more feeling but as I just said, I really need to finish this post. I think damo's play so far this game has been relatively baseless. All he's really used for evidence is D1 VCA and a couple of random one off comments. I know that I haven't done much better, but I'm allowed to be a hypocrite.

##vote damo

I'll be back a bit before EOD.

I liked this on first pass.

Remind me to re-read it in like 2 hours

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##Vote damo666

[Jamiet99uk]

Where did everyone suddenly go?

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Where did everyone suddenly go?

Hoboken, New Jersey?