M81: A Night To Remember [GAME THREAD]

[aarodactyl]

DemonRHK Volume Study

Scumgames
M40 Day 1 posts: 13
M66 Day 1 posts: 28
M55 Day 1 posts: 10

M36 Day 1 posts: 19
M51 Day 1 posts: 4
M73 Day 1 Posts: 40
M72 Day 1 Posts: 40
M67 Day 1 Posts: 38
M64 Day 1 Posts: 41
M63 Day 1 Posts: 19


Current Game
Day 1 Posts: 42


Volume would dictate RHK is in an above average posting habit if scum. And right around his avg as town

If you’re doing more of these, can you pull word and character counts and look at average word lengths?

[brainbomb]

in M28 RHK posted 8 times as mafia also.

so again, he posts a very minimal amount as scum

[aarodactyl]

I am perfectly calm.

Indeed I will soothe the gamestate by offering words of calm throughout the day.

Be on the look out for things that make you laugh. If you see nothing worth laughing at, pretend you see it, then laugh.

You’re one of the funnier posts in this community. In case you were unaware.

[Jamiet99uk]

in M28 RHK posted 8 times as mafia also.

so again, he posts a very minimal amount as scum

What are his posting volumes like when he is town?

How about when he is third party?

[Jamiet99uk]

I am perfectly calm.

Indeed I will soothe the gamestate by offering words of calm throughout the day.

Be on the look out for things that make you laugh. If you see nothing worth laughing at, pretend you see it, then laugh.

You’re one of the funnier posts in this community. In case you were unaware.

Yes, many people say that.

Not Ghug, of course. He never appreciates me. But I know that he had a difficult childhood, so I forgive him.

[ghug]

I'm voting damo b/c his d1 was terrible.
His iso was full of nonsense and unimportant statements. Only mechanical talk and not a lot of it. I expected more.
The main reason though is his terrible shift onto Chaqa at EoD to make Chaqa the leading wagon instead of HB. Knowing that HB flipped scum makes this vote look really really bad.

Are you doing the thing where you don't actually read the context that goes with the votes? Damo had been on Chaqa before. He was always gonna go back there if brain failed.

Why are you being so defensive of Damo?

His only argument for Chaqa was "Chaqa is the way to go".

What type of context is that?

He never stated anything in regards to why he preferred Chaqa > Vecna > HB

He never even mentioned me or HB.

This is about Ezio being lazy, not my opinion on damo.

[sweetandcool]

I am perfectly calm.

Indeed I will soothe the gamestate by offering words of calm throughout the day.

Be on the look out for things that make you laugh. If you see nothing worth laughing at, pretend you see it, then laugh.

When did you change your signature? I just noticed, and lightly chuckled. Probably should change it.

[Jamiet99uk]

Speaking of Ghug here he is.

I've got some advice for you, Ghug. Let go once in a while. You are a loose lily floating down an amber river.

[Jamiet99uk]

I am perfectly calm.

Indeed I will soothe the gamestate by offering words of calm throughout the day.

Be on the look out for things that make you laugh. If you see nothing worth laughing at, pretend you see it, then laugh.

When did you change your signature? I just noticed, and lightly chuckled. Probably should change it.

Oh yes, I should amend that.

[ghug]

im gonna table thinking about sweetandcool for now. because the only scum pair ive ever considered for ghug all game was s&C and it seems like no one thinks thats ever possible now so, I should just read ghug in isolation perhaps.

Sweet is so fucking town brain. You can tinfoil on me if you want but you should find a better partner.

[brainbomb]

DemonRHK Volume Study

Scumgames
M40 Day 1 posts: 13
M66 Day 1 posts: 28
M55 Day 1 posts: 10

M36 Day 1 posts: 19
M51 Day 1 posts: 4
M73 Day 1 Posts: 40
M72 Day 1 Posts: 40
M67 Day 1 Posts: 38
M64 Day 1 Posts: 41
M63 Day 1 Posts: 19


Current Game
Day 1 Posts: 42


Volume would dictate RHK is in an above average posting habit if scum. And right around his avg as town

If you’re doing more of these, can you pull word and character counts and look at average word lengths?

No I think that would probably not really accomplish much, and when you get into that level of microanalysis it hurts the player and the game because it creates a narrative someone cant defend against.

whereas at least with posting totals a player can explain why maybe they were a PR so they posted less, or maybe they subbed out, or maybe they were new at being scum and talked too much or a VT when they hadnt been a VT very often. Those are things people can explain.

I respect the process enough that I wouldnt lie or fabricate results to come to any bad conclusions

[ghug]

I think the most important bit of information right now is a list of exactly who claimed partners. And in what order.

Jesus Christ aaro

[brainbomb]

Ezio posted 40 times as mafia on day 1 in a mountainous game *all vanilla no PR* and hes never posted that much again as mafia any other instance. You could easily say this data supports that Ezio is in another mostly vanilla game and therefore is more brazen, but its too small a sample size and lends itself to conf bias for me to go that route. Yea he hit 51 posts here which is his all time high, but that can also be explained by being gone for a long time, being glad to be back, being motivated to defend his winrate where hes the second winningest player on the site. ect.

so it didnt lean me to hard scumread him when I thought about it more

[ghug]

Brain: I feel like you deserve this from all the work you’ve done. When have I ever said I was partners with ghug? People have been making a lot of assumptions about partners despite roughly half of the people not claiming.

Are you telling me you allowed someone to claim you as a partner and you did not try to counter claim that? you did nothing about that all this time?

who else colluded in such an idea? and for the love of god how would that ever help town to be allowing four people whose alignments you dont know swap around partnerings.

Because I think the longer it went on, the more information you can get about ghug. And until your comment just now, no one has made any deductions that wouldn’t be consistent with the correct pairings.

Also there was no real way to use pairing for day one so it’s not against town to hold off on refuting the claim. Introducing late information helps reframe the prior phase, which is a serious upside to town.

Also I wasn’t going to explicitly say it during a night phase but I hinted at it pretty regularly.

I don't get why you'd tell them now. Immediately shooting me down was fair play, and letting it go until someone was being led astray by the assumptions was fair play, but instead you picked this moment?

[ghug]

this is probably the worst play in human history.

and there are plays where people marry a horse on stage.

this is actually worse than that.

NEIGHHHHH aaro. neigh.

My partner is damo btw. I’m assuming that means that ghug has whoever the pairs list has assigned to damo, I think demonrdk.

Have fun thinking about everyone’s motives. I find it fascinating that ghug would pull me into a ploy and then push me for not making any strong reads.

Explain how b relates to a.

[brainbomb]

this type of analysis works on some players and not others. I would never even try to do this with ghug, or eden, or jamie, or maniac or bona because they are all consciously aware of their volume at any given alignment rand, and they do extra work to always just do alot of what they do as both.

id be shocked if ghugs posting day 1 wasnt identical as both sides

[brainbomb]

im gonna table thinking about sweetandcool for now. because the only scum pair ive ever considered for ghug all game was s&C and it seems like no one thinks thats ever possible now so, I should just read ghug in isolation perhaps.

Sweet is so fucking town brain. You can tinfoil on me if you want but you should find a better partner.

and so am I, but I cant seem to get you to say that. And you seemed unable to say that when Jamie was flagellating himself at start of N1 about me as well.

[aarodactyl]

Are you telling me you allowed someone to claim you as a partner and you did not try to counter claim that? you did nothing about that all this time?

who else colluded in such an idea? and for the love of god how would that ever help town to be allowing four people whose alignments you dont know swap around partnerings.

Because I think the longer it went on, the more information you can get about ghug. And until your comment just now, no one has made any deductions that wouldn’t be consistent with the correct pairings.

Also there was no real way to use pairing for day one so it’s not against town to hold off on refuting the claim. Introducing late information helps reframe the prior phase, which is a serious upside to town.

Also I wasn’t going to explicitly say it during a night phase but I hinted at it pretty regularly.

I don't get why you'd tell them now. Immediately shooting me down was fair play, and letting it go until someone was being led astray by the assumptions was fair play, but instead you picked this moment?

Brain was starting to be led astray so I figured it was bad to keep it quiet. It was fun while it lasted but from my pov, I don’t believe you, damo, and your partner are all town. So it felt like it was verging on harmful.

[ghug]

I'll come clean.

Worcej is not my partner, ghug is.

Damnit Chaqa

[aarodactyl]

this is probably the worst play in human history.

and there are plays where people marry a horse on stage.

this is actually worse than that.

NEIGHHHHH aaro. neigh.

My partner is damo btw. I’m assuming that means that ghug has whoever the pairs list has assigned to damo, I think demonrdk.

Have fun thinking about everyone’s motives. I find it fascinating that ghug would pull me into a ploy and then push me for not making any strong reads.

Explain how b relates to a.

A very large portion of my perspective became colored by the asymmetric information and it’s hard for me to really make any reads to begin with on D1.