M81: A Night To Remember [GAME THREAD]

[sweetandcool]

Is this a townslip?

Why did you think this was a townslip?

It wasn't mentioned anywhere in the signup or setup post that mafia would have n0 chat.

Are we allowed to throw Tomatoes at the GM for this mistake? Tomatoes and karma, a nutritious breakfast.

[Jamiet99uk]

Brain, bruh, IT WAS YOU.

so far im scumleaning RHK/aaro and s&c for not trying to gamesolve.

but theres alot of players who havent even posted.

jamie exists and is hiding

ect ect
lots of game to be played

aaro do you have any reads on anyone so far?

how do you feel about ghug?

what do you think of Jamie’s post?

I have some vague impression of people but I’m holding off on a lot of judgements until our European friends get to play.

I get the vibes that ghug doesn’t like worcej.

Has Jamie posted since their initial post asking if we can post? I assume he felt intimidated by all the math (or more likely it was just his bed time).

Brain!

BRUH!

[Chaqa]

How I precisely feel is that HamiltonBrian is visibly scum with DemonRHK

Hamilton is a naturally scummy player, but I agree on RHK being off.

[Jamiet99uk]

I think it's a small enough list to be reasonable but given the mechanics of this game I think it's probably more useful to be a little more flexible.

I've been thinking about it and I think our goal is just to break up pairs.

Although I don't want to vote worcej, because I put him through some really stressful stuff in the pregame chat and he came off pretty towny.

Tell us more about the stated goal of breaking up pairs.

Mafia cannot be paired together

Ergo each mafia we kill is a clear town

This is why I suggested (in sign up) that a Mass Claim was a good idea for town.

However various people including Ghug have shot a massclaim down.

Thoughts?

[Hamilton Brian]

I’m going to be offline for the next 2.5 hours; here at theatre with my nephew to see the Flash.

[Chaqa]

Tell us more about the stated goal of breaking up pairs.

Mafia cannot be paired together

Ergo each mafia we kill is a clear town

This is why I suggested (in sign up) that a Mass Claim was a good idea for town.

However various people including Ghug have shot a massclaim down.

Thoughts?

Ghug is notoriously smoothbrain at mechs.

[brainbomb]

Reasoning is, Hamilton likes Vecna townreading DemonRHK and lists vecna as trending up.

Then when vecna is shading Jamie and myself, he now sees vecna wagon growing, and sees an opportunity and tells us to "remember vecna" shading us. Which in my mind means, RHK is not being voted, this is fine, lets now drive up a wagon on vecna and shift focus away from my buddy RHK altogether.

I have not considered why scum hamilton is hard townreading worcej and chaqa, and I would be really shocked if worcej was scum. But I could see the way hamilton wrote his posts about chaqa being scum hard defenses on fellow scum. If you reread what he said he never at all assumes chaqa would meme as mafia. He said maybe chaqa would do this to try to get miskilled.

To me thats not a natural read to have. Thats a forced read. Most of these are forced reads, and to make matters more obvious they are reads that are forcing themselves to be null when the stated reasoning clearly indicates he thinks the person is town, see examples like his take on ghug, his take on ezio.

then in his revised reads DemonRHK is just nonexistant.

And there is also no revised thoughts on rdrivera either.

I would assume scum Hamilton would force at least one of his mafia buddies to be pushed into his townreads. And chaqa fits that slot very well. Alternatively, I would have to seriously rethink the game if worcej is mafia, but it isnt totally impossible.

I still think this is a hit

[Jamiet99uk]

Hey wait a minute why am I the top wagon?

[Hamilton Brian]

My gut thoughts haven’t really altered from yesterday. I think going the D1 vote with a consensus choice is fine. Hope to check in around 2:30pm ESt.

[Jamiet99uk]

Mafia cannot be paired together

Ergo each mafia we kill is a clear town

This is why I suggested (in sign up) that a Mass Claim was a good idea for town.

However various people including Ghug have shot a massclaim down.

Thoughts?

Ghug is notoriously smoothbrain at mechs.

I want to claim then.

Someone tell me why I shouldn't.

[worcej]

playin D&D currently

Pf2e currently myself lol

Jealous.

I'm planning my next session (3 weeks away because summer vacations...)

My players bought a brewery so I think that will be most of it, trying to figure out what their next adventure will be.

Typical Americans.

A world of fantasy, magic and adventure is available to them, and they decide to set up a business.

I'm sorry, but a DnD adventure where my party and I setup a brewery or inn would be fucking awesome considering all the potential shenanigans that could occur in it

[Hamilton Brian]

Brain throwing lots but I expect it to change 180 several times.

[worcej]

So I think we need to flip a high activity player. I know that is usually counter to town play as it kills activity, but with no PRs a hiigh info slip would help.

I townread RHK a lot more for this opinion.

[Chaqa]

This is why I suggested (in sign up) that a Mass Claim was a good idea for town.

However various people including Ghug have shot a massclaim down.

Thoughts?

Ghug is notoriously smoothbrain at mechs.

I want to claim then.

Someone tell me why I shouldn't.

Mafia already know who 3-4 of 7 pairs are, so it probably is pro-town.

[worcej]

I’ve thought this over a lot, and I’m fairly certain ghug is scum. I still have scum leans in vecna and worcej. I think damo may be scum but he hasn’t posted which (which I think is NAI for him).

I have no if brain is town or not but I think his posting is a net positive for town so I don’t think I’d vote for him.

I don’t feel strongly about anyone else.

The ghug train could use some more railcars

[sweetandcool]

This is why I suggested (in sign up) that a Mass Claim was a good idea for town.

However various people including Ghug have shot a massclaim down.

Thoughts?

Ghug is notoriously smoothbrain at mechs.

I want to claim then.

Someone tell me why I shouldn't.

This was already done to death yesterday. Pretty much, anti-claimers (including myself) generally prefer not to explain why right now.

So I can't convince you. But I would like to point out that until Mafia dies, the ghost chat is clean and partners can be claimed there. And single dance chat is clean because if Mafia kills their partner D1, then they can't lie about the single dance chat because eventually a town player will be in the chat and able to verify any claims as to what the ghost chat communicated.

Consequently, there is no reason to reveal yet.

[worcej]

I’ve thought this over a lot, and I’m fairly certain ghug is scum. I still have scum leans in vecna and worcej. I think damo may be scum but he hasn’t posted which (which I think is NAI for him).

Did ghug say something in ppartner that make you suspicious of him?

I’m assuming you meant “particularly”. Mostly that he seems to be trying to buddy me. And then some other vibe related things. I honestly think that d1 is just a day to share vibes and mechanics. Until there’s some flops, I don’t think you can realistically do much.

More town points for you.

[worcej]

I was about to post it's odd how quiet ghug is being, but he's the second highest poster.

It could just be me, but someone posting that much and leaving no impact on me is a bit odd, especially for ghug.

Hard agree and is why I want him dead D1

[worcej]

Chaqa
I dont understand how you can go from a game where you had rigid hard defenses of players like myself, Jamie, Bunny, to having zero of those kinds of reads 1 game later, when the only detail thats changed is you arent a PR townleader.

Being a PR inspires a sense of confidence and determination to be a leader.

At least it does for me...

[brainbomb]

Damo: still hungover? Maybe drop a vote on Damo to put them out of their misery.

Vecna: Was Vecna the parrot many games ago? I will say I mafialean Vecna here and pay attention to the shading of brain and jamie.


Rivera: short on posts, which is de rigeur for rdr. As I read their posts I feel like there's a hesitancy and forced engagement. null to mafialean.

Kak: They started out well yesterday, taIled off. Bulk of their content was mech. Then comes the disappearing act. Hell, Vienna is beautiful this time of year. Null to mafialean.

Thanks.

Brian: Vecna, Rivera, Kak (based on the aforementioned list of mine)

So what happened to damo?
and sweet and cool?

This progression is forced imo

ghug, rivera have put their thoughts in but I haven't got a gut sense of their work thus far.

Rivera: short on posts, which is de rigeur for rdr. As I read their posts I feel like there's a hesitancy and forced engagement. null to mafialean.