M1025 Game Thread

[Bonatogether]

Bonatogether and damo should be OK hammering Fluminator since they both have him as mafia, and I am OK hammering Fluminator before EOD, despite Jamie's objection.

i strongly object to hammering

discussion prior to flip is important

We can hammer 30 minutes before EOD so we have all the time we need for discussion.

i am confused why we would want to hammer

[Chaqa]

i strongly object to hammering

discussion prior to flip is important

We can hammer 30 minutes before EOD so we have all the time we need for discussion.

i am confused why we would want to hammer

To prevent you or some other scum from tying it and preventing one of our shots.

[Chaqa]

i dislike this

Where’s your PoE at atm?

not really a poe as a list

Bonatogether town
bozotheclown strong lean town
Chaqa moderate lean town
damo666 moderate lean town
Fluminator strong lean scum
Jamiet99uk strong lean town
pyxxy moderate lean scum

in order
bona
jamie
bozo
damo/chaqa
pyxxy
flum

Having me at the same level as damo is a choice.

[Bonatogether]

We can hammer 30 minutes before EOD so we have all the time we need for discussion.

i am confused why we would want to hammer

To prevent you or some other scum from tying it and preventing one of our shots.

that would be a scumclaim though

it wastes 1 day but outs 1 scum (and all the information that provides)

i don't understand

[Chaqa]

i am confused why we would want to hammer

To prevent you or some other scum from tying it and preventing one of our shots.

that would be a scumclaim though

it wastes 1 day but outs 1 scum (and all the information that provides)

i don't understand

So should we also interpret your tie as a scum claim?

[Chaqa]

I’m going to bed now

[Bonatogether]

To prevent you or some other scum from tying it and preventing one of our shots.

that would be a scumclaim though

it wastes 1 day but outs 1 scum (and all the information that provides)

i don't understand

So should we also interpret your tie as a scum claim?

no, it was not close to lylo

[bozotheclown]

i am confused why we would want to hammer

To prevent you or some other scum from tying it and preventing one of our shots.

that would be a scumclaim though

it wastes 1 day but outs 1 scum (and all the information that provides)

i don't understand

We don't want votes moving around at EOD where a town could accidently tie it.

[Bonatogether]

To prevent you or some other scum from tying it and preventing one of our shots.

that would be a scumclaim though

it wastes 1 day but outs 1 scum (and all the information that provides)

i don't understand

We don't want votes moving around at EOD where a town could accidently tie it.

i'm aware this sounds rich but town would have to be boneheadedly stupid to tie it today

[bozotheclown]

I did not find anything that made Fluminator/pyxxy/ghug seem unreasonable as a mafia team. ghug defended pyxxy some D1, but pyxxy was under some pressure D1, and ghug backed off his town read of pyxxy D2, so ghug could have been discouraging a pyxxy DK D1 instead of pocketing him.

[bozotheclown]

WIth twenty minutes remaining, Flum made no effort to leave any reads. He asked bunny to doc claim and said if you doc claim I will unvote you. (now granted I also did this at one point so this is not a talking point exclusive to flum)

as time waned down flum offered to self vote if bunny claimed doc, and then did not do so when it did actually happen.

during this time I think the posts by pyxxy spell it out

I generally like giving people who vote scum a one day pass where we don't assume bussing, so even if there are bussers, they'll be encouraged to kill more of their teammates for us.

Ah, and here's this post. It makes more sense in context after Chaqa's bunny/pyxxy (that's me) bussing post.

Do you see how this makes you and bunny look though?

You say this and you're voting bona with him?

Y'all look paired.

Obviously I've paid way more attention to bunny this game than you but I think that you're in the possible pairs that Chaqa posted? So.....yeah. If you're town, figure out if bunny is fooling you or not. Don't do this weird voting for scum bussing pass nonsense. You have time. Solve the game.

pyxxy sees flum might die, and claims that bunny and flum are paired.

uh sure ##VOTE damo

So why does pyxxy go damo instead?

[bozotheclown]

The only explanation I can come up with for pyxxy voting damo instead is that just instantly in a flash, any scumread on flum goes up in smoke if bunny claims PR.
so basically, the flum scumread was never real regardless.

this to me makes pyxxy look most likely to be teammates with flum who saw flum about to bite the bullet, and was not prepared that a role claim was coming, and decided to soft bus, so when or if flum flips, bunny can be next. and if bunny flips, hey perfect it lets scum buddy flum off my list because they cant be paired.

[bozotheclown]

WIth twenty minutes remaining, Flum made no effort to leave any reads. He asked bunny to doc claim and said if you doc claim I will unvote you. (now granted I also did this at one point so this is not a talking point exclusive to flum)

as time waned down flum offered to self vote if bunny claimed doc, and then did not do so when it did actually happen.

during this time I think the posts by pyxxy spell it out

Ah, and here's this post. It makes more sense in context after Chaqa's bunny/pyxxy (that's me) bussing post.

Do you see how this makes you and bunny look though?

You say this and you're voting bona with him?

Y'all look paired.

Obviously I've paid way more attention to bunny this game than you but I think that you're in the possible pairs that Chaqa posted? So.....yeah. If you're town, figure out if bunny is fooling you or not. Don't do this weird voting for scum bussing pass nonsense. You have time. Solve the game.

pyxxy sees flum might die, and claims that bunny and flum are paired.

uh sure ##VOTE damo

So why does pyxxy go damo instead?

requoting this becuase this is the only post I have made this game that I actually care about. this is what I leave you with. Make the right decision

[bozotheclown]

the case on pyx
selective participation with excuses
wishy washy stances on ghug
ghug called all of pyxxys posts authentic
general dodginess

[bozotheclown]

It seemed surprising that the mafia believed brainbomb's doctor claim, but Fluminator and pyxxy may have wanted to NK brainbomb N3 even though they did not believe the doctor claim, knowing the assumption would be the doctor claim was the reason for the NK.

[damo666]

rereading flum because idk him

i will avoid frankenposting (aspirational)

Hi, I just finished a multi-month long project that was due 57 minutes ago. Close enough

this is me

I want Flum to acknowledge that my current seagull avatar is, quite literally, the seagull image used in UK newspaper coverage about the threat of seagulls attacking the Great British Bake Off, when the decision was made to host some episodes outdoors.

Lol, I appreciate the picture and effort.
Since no one is ever going to find it at this rate, Fox hid a link in the opening post to a song about seagulls, and it's something I'd only expect town to click.

I actually really like this schtick by flum on d1 where he spends a while asking people about this and I think it's towny indicative. Scum don't find something and then think it's hard for scum to find like that, and he'd have to be actively thinking about different ways to fool people, and also find that, in some combination, to come up with that idea as scum.

If Bozo is town, scum!Jamie would be voting for him.

Why do you scumread me?

The opposite reason brain is townreading me. You seem to be playing a character of yourself.

You get upset at seemingly random things or jokeposts (despite you doing random things as well like changing reply thread names.)
Last game we were in together you tunneled on bozo and he was town, so I would have expected town you to change your approach with him. (Scum you it makes sense to do something pretty firmly established in your town meta)
You are very defensive reading into things being against you that aren't about you.

this post displays actual clarity of thought on our friend jimmit.

I honestly felt kinda good about that at the end.

A couple games ago you said this and you were scum and it tricked me. Weren't you voting bozo until almost near the end? What changed in the last minutes?

I feel if he keeps this scumread up for a while then it's many townpoints. This is a good insight

editors note: he did not

What's the point of this?

If he's scum, I think Flum is a good bet given his vote bouncing.

If he's town, I don't think it tells us that much, so I default to like Eden/Bona/Flum.

I expect you to now vote Flum.

That's the point.

This whole interaction and ghug dancing around voting flum looks bad for flum on the face of it, but like, I managed to pick up what chaqa was doing pretty fast, and ghug probably did as well. This feels like prime 'i'm going to set up a patsy' territory (at least that's what i'd do here as scum), so i'm going to vote that this makes flum look good. criticism will be heard on this point, although it may well be rejected out of hand if i disagree with it

You could make a case instead of just saying it over and over.

Sure. Known scum, ghug, was hesitant to vote you and you are not currently a townread of mine.

this irritation feels town, again. also noting chaqa's case, but we previously rejected the ghug thing.

##Vote Bona
Will be on more tomorrow. I feel like Bona is coasting the hardest right now and best bet for being scum.

I'm not scum, but I'm not sure how useful it is to divert energy into defending myself since me dying may be the best way for people to take a closer look at chaqa who is probably scum and already trying to line up more kills after my miskill. As town he usually doesn't care that much, but as scum he's much more faux invested (Plus the god thread seems like a party right now)

I think Bona/Chaqa makes a lot of sense as the scumpair.

this is the point when i said in thread that i forgot why chaqa was town

this is actually kind of real. voting me is sad but whatever. what's the omgus percentage of this post?

Ok...

what do you make of my EOD2 stuff?

I suspect I probably look scummy. Ghug was definitely buddying/framing me because he knows I'd never go after him the first couple days and I'm facing the music for that lol.
I don't disagree with your bona and jamie sus. I don't see bozo as the busser.
I don't see damo being town yet.
I'm still a little sus of chaqa as the busser, but he's definitely tryharding right now and trying to be a town leader and I don't think I've seen him do this as scum. He's at least made an impressive show of actually being curious lol even though he's probably going to still end on me (I suspect he wouldn't go through that circus if he really was just setting me up as a simple miskill.
I don't think brain is scum. gut
Pyxxy is probably the main one I'd look at for bussing right now after you.

this post manages to sus most of the game (bona, jamie, damo all listed as not town or more obvious scum, and then chaqa, pyxxy, bunny all listed as busser candidates). only beancomb escapes with a townread. this post really sucks but i feel like i've been in a similar place for a while too, but it really sucks

I generally like giving people who vote scum a one day pass where we don't assume bussing, so even if there are bussers, they'll be encouraged to kill more of their teammates for us.

monkey brain

no way flum posts this as scum if he's scum with those under fire and are ghug voters (bunny, pyxxy, realistically speaking). most obviously eliminating the flum/pyxxy team is relatively big. however he does vote bunny after asking him to claim (but before bongo does claim)

It IS tied

I mean I will vote Bunny if he doesn't claim doc at this point.

Bunny if you're doctor you should tell me. If you are I'll just self vote lol

i DESPISE these posts. he didn't even self-vote, he voted me and then hopped on the damo speedwagon

at this point it was bunny 4, flum 4, me 1

i can't fathom why town!flum ever posts this. it's asking for a scum player to claim (or for vt!bongo to, which is whatever). similarly, it looks stupidly bad, so i can't imagine why scum!flum would do it either.

i think chaqa/flum is a real team possibility based on this eod

This will be my last post.

The good thing is the game is solved: Flum and brain are the scum team.

The bad news is most of youse a$$h*les are so illiterate you’ll somehow misunderstand the above. And then ignore the reasons.

So: vote Flum. Do not deviate. F**k the VCA. JUST GET HIM.

Then get brain the open wolf saving his teammate today and PR hunting.

The rest of you are dumba$$es (except chaqa and Damo). Shape the f**k up.

Bunny out.

I’m gonna go watch my kid’s little league game now and then https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/f2abec6c-9 ... 15bbbcc2b9

But there’s no more point dealing with this game. See you the next one. Don’t FUCK THIS UP!! It’s easy from here.

I noticed you hinting you were doc which was one of the reasons I was so hesitant to vote you in the first place, but there comes a time where you have to just claim, especially when the counter wagon was saying he'd have to vote for you and was the clinching vote.

@flum when did you pick up on bongo doc softing? can you show me a post?

now i'm up to recent things that are hard to read without knowledge that i don't have


conclusions:
flum/pyxxy is out as a combination
asking for a claim at eod3 was super super scummy
scumread ghug but not when it counted
displays a persistent inability to create townreads
feels directionless and goalless

probably scum

Please don't post like this. Nobody reads apart from the conclusion which is then summarily dismissed.

Short, sharp and to the point.

COYI

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm not sure Bona/Flum should be out of the picture yet.

I think Bonatogether would have anticipated drawing unnecessary suspicion for causing a tie, but maybe he really thought someone would break the tie.

Bona / Flum would be less likely than Bona / Damo but could have been a super-brave bus.

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm not sure Bona/Flum should be out of the picture yet.

I think Bonatogether would have anticipated drawing unnecessary suspicion for causing a tie, but maybe he really thought someone would break the tie.

Well, let's look at the world where scum!Bona caused the tie, but expected it to be broken. That would mean he didn't care if Damo lived or died, he just wanted to ensure EITHER Damo or Bunny died, right?

If he did not care whether Damo died, why did he save Damo?

[Jamiet99uk]

It is important that we do not risk another tie today, and having the lead wagon without a majority of votes would also give the mafia too much control over the voting.

I suggest we try to hammer today before EOD so there is no chance of a tie.

I agree with this. Perhaps we make Bona, Damo, Flum, and pyxxy each self vote or vote for the next person alphabetically and let you me and Jamie decide ?

Or we just hammer Flum

Bonatogether and damo should be OK hammering Fluminator since they both have him as mafia, and I am OK hammering Fluminator before EOD, despite Jamie's objection.

I don't object to filpping Flubinator, I just prefer Damo.

[Jamiet99uk]

i am confused why we would want to hammer

To prevent you or some other scum from tying it and preventing one of our shots.

that would be a scumclaim though

it wastes 1 day but outs 1 scum (and all the information that provides)

i don't understand

You have literally already done it once, and we need to guarantee you won't be able to do it again.