2. I believed it was fake. Fluminator had been asking bunny to claim for a little bit, and it was extremely late. Also, it aligned with my view of him as scum. I did not make a little diagram of all the options, nor did I compose an essay on the possibilities. I saw someone who had been taking, in my view, very scummy stances towards me and others for a long time, claim in a poorly executed way on the block. I fully believed he was bullshitting, and I do not understand why other people immediately piled off and then in the night claimed he was clearly scum (chaqa comes to mind, but there were several other people in this category).Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:51 pmI want to investigate items #2 and #3 here because I think this is a load of rubbish.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:25 pm1. I did townread damo, but that was not (and should never be) a reason for tying barring a strong pr read or mechs (i have no head for pr softing so i had nothing of the sort)Fluminator wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:20 pmBona, can you give any better explanation to causing the tie? Why did you think damo is town? Or was it to just make a statement?
2. I was mad at us not punishing what I viewed as a clear fakeclaim (which it was, although he wasn't actually scum, bizarrely)
3. I thought there was time for someone else to untie it (and indeed someone, flum I think? said at me before the end of day 'it's tied' or something, so he clearly knew)
Re: 2: Bunny's claim was made with four minutes to go before EoD. How did you have time to evaluate that as a fakeclaim, assess people's reactions to it, and "get mad" about people not "punishing" Bunny for claiming? (Esp when there was no immediate c.c.)?
Your point 2 looks extremely fake to me.
Re: 3: When you cast the vote that caused a tie, there were no more than 60 seconds to go until the end of the phase; probably a lot less than 60 seconds. Why do you claim to think there was more time left?
Fluminator said "it's tied" just a few seconds before the "PLEASE HOLD" message from the GM, and at that point, because you had tied it, by voting for Fluminator, Fluminator was tied on 4 votes with Damo, who Flum was already voting for.
So, you are saying you thought there was time for Fluminator to break the tie by committing suicide, yes? Flum was literally the one person who could not be expected to move his vote at that precise moment because he would have died.
3. Flum seeing it and responding to it proves that there was time for others to see it and respond also. It was very close but there was sufficient time. I did not tie in the hope that I would place fluminator in the dilemma of suicide or tie, but that anyone would see it and move. Fluminator only proves that there was time.