M1025 Game Thread

[brainbomb]

yea thats fine.

why did you read the flavour post first and react to that first?

[Jamiet99uk]

Just FWIW as someone who lives in Durham, this is an amazing level of detail. Quite fantastic.

This is your first reaction to seeing scum flip.

"just for what its worth (flavour)"

So, just checking in here as I won't have time to comment much in this super-short night phase, but great work town flipping Ghug. I was happy with both wagons but the record will show Ghug was a scumread of mine, so I'm glad I got that right. I guess Bozo is probably not scum. Need to seriously put Damo under some pressure tomorrow.

Were you more excited to see your hometown mentioned in the flavour, or to see a mafia member die.

Oh definitely the former, because it was surprising (and very well done).

Ghug flipping scum was not very surprising.

[Jamiet99uk]

yea thats fine.

why did you read the flavour post first and react to that first?

We've talked about this. I pay attention to the flavour. I'm a big fan of flavour in Mafia games.

[brainbomb]

Just FWIW as someone who lives in Durham, this is an amazing level of detail. Quite fantastic.

This is your first reaction to seeing scum flip.

"just for what its worth (flavour)"

So, just checking in here as I won't have time to comment much in this super-short night phase, but great work town flipping Ghug. I was happy with both wagons but the record will show Ghug was a scumread of mine, so I'm glad I got that right. I guess Bozo is probably not scum. Need to seriously put Damo under some pressure tomorrow.

Were you more excited to see your hometown mentioned in the flavour, or to see a mafia member die.

Oh definitely the former, because it was surprising (and very well done).

Ghug flipping scum was not very surprising.

[Jamiet99uk]

CHAQA and DAMO, DAY TWO:

CHAQA votes Bona / Ghug / Flum / Ghug / Flum / Bona / Jamie / Flum / Ghug / Damo / Ghug
DAMO votes Pyx / Bona / Eden / Flum / Eden / Pyx / Bunny

Notable that Chaqa voted for Damo on D2 but only for about 20 minutes, and he moved off Damo moments after Damo was tied for the lead (with BunnyGo).

During D2 Damo indicates some suspicions of Chaqa, like this, but never votes for Chaqa:

I can’t really speculate about who I would kill here, but I can’t fathom it being rdr. No offense meant to rdr with that, but I don’t shoot people who get drowned out in the thread and aren’t out of the POE

yea I agree and really its a wifom fuck
you kill from a troll team is the more likely answer. a bunch of chuckleheads who think the games gonna turn in on itself by overthinking.

a Chaqa/Bona/Jamie team fits that bill

Then there's this weird couple of posts:

I was town last time and I'm town this. I would never have allowed an rdr kill. I'd have killed ghug. Obviously.

Maybe Ghug didn't die because ghug is scum

Yes, I'll give you that.

Current thoughts (principally note to self)

TOWN

brain, Chaqa, ghug

So in the space of nine minutes Damo (a) acknowledges Chaqa's suggestion that Ghug is scum, then (b) lists Ghug as a top townread alongside Chaqa.

Other than that Damo's D2 interaction with Chaqa was a brief argument about Chaqa missing off Eden's name from his lists.

MEANWHILE Chaqa had moved Damo from a strong townread to a null:

Town Gang
bozotheclown
brainbomb
BunnyGo
Chaqa

Shrug Gang
damo666
Jamiet99uk
pyxxy

Anti-Baking Lobby
Bonatogether
Fluminator
ghug

Then Chaqa promises to re-read Damo:

I'll bite brain - what am I missing on Damo?

performative posts, unserious tone, lots of laughing at everyones takes with no explanation. strange behavior at EOD wrt the wagons. a stark contrast from this game to last game where damo led town, was focused, serious and helpful. most of his ISO so far is one liners and jokes to people.

Let me reread Damo over lunch while I contemplate the roof replacement estimate I just got

We never get that re-read, or at least Chaqa never posts about it.

But later on Damo is suddenly a scum-read:

I think this is my will-vote list today:
damo666
Fluminator
ghug
pyxxy

With a strong preference for the ghuginator pair

And then:

##VOTE DAMO numbnuts

I feel like it's too early to give up on the ghug wagon.

Damo’s scumtell is disinterest paired with lack of reading, focus, understanding. He mixes in snark for nothing. Like this game.

Reasonable. I recall similar those two times you and I were scum with him.

##Vote damo

Why is it also damo now?

Cos Bunny is desperate scum and brain and Chaqa are blind sheep

Vote ghug with me!

##Vote ghug

If it helps I have no intention of moving from scumBunny

Scumclaim

D2 ends, Ghug flips.

@Chaqa: Please talk us through your progression on Damo during D2. Why did you never post your promised re-read of him? At what point did he flip from being a strong townread to a strong scumread? Do you think Damo tried to save Ghug?

[brainbomb]

##vote bunny

alrighty back to this

[Jamiet99uk]

Night 2 Damo doesn't say anything interesting to or about Chaqa that I can see.

Night 2 Chaqa confirms Damo is one of his main scumreads.

[Jamiet99uk]

So in conclusion:

Could Chaqa - Damo be a pair? It's possible.

On re-reading some of this stuff Damo comes across as pretty scummy D1 and D2.

I would now like to hear from Chaqa and, optionally, from Damo.

##Unvote.

[Bonatogether]

Continuing EOD2:

VOTE COUNT

BunnyGo (4): Fluminator, damo666, bozotheclown, President Eden
bozotheclown (3): Bonatogether, Jamiet99uk, ghug
ghug (2): pyxxy, Chaqa
damo666 (2): BunnyGo, brainbomb

Bunny's tart is about to get popped.

45 minutes remain in D2.

I give Chaqa my read of damo

he says reasonable and votes damo too.

pyxxy asks about damo

I answer him

pyxxy interacts with brain a bit. Says he townreads bozo.

Bona "leaves" and pushes a bozo wagon.

Flum "leaves", pushes my wagon.

Chaqa says he'll vote bozo if it is down to bozo-bunny

ghug defends damo.

damo calls me dumb and scum.

chaqa says the damo vote is to "protect" me and bozo.

Eden jumps off my wagon to restart the ghug push.

chaqa quickly goes back and encourages damo to join him.

bozo asks chaqa to go back to ghug in a crosspost.

VOTE COUNT

bozotheclown (3): Bonatogether, Jamiet99uk, ghug
BunnyGo (3): Fluminator, damo666, bozotheclown
damo666 (3): BunnyGo, brainbomb, President Eden
ghug (2): pyxxy, Chaqa

The bakers are a frenzy of activity! It's impossible to tell who will come out ahead.

Day 2 ends in 15 minutes. There will be no further vote counts.

Bozo suggests I join him on ghug as a "compromise"

pyxxy then says that he researched damo, and agrees that damo votes for scum as a towntell. Says he's invested in me-damo conflict. So LEAVES ghug and votes me.

bozo likes the bunny voters.

pyxxy then goes right back to voting ghug.

Then back to me again! Because it "risks bozo"

bozo then asks if Bunny and Chaqa will actually vote ghug as a counter wagon, and Eden votes ghug.

bozo then asks Eden to move BACK to voting me.

I shift to ghug. (4 Bunny - 3 ghug - 3 bozo)

damo insists his scum read of me is too strong to leave ever.

bozo votes for ghug. (4 ghug - 3 Bunny - 3 bozo) with 5 minutes left.

damo then posts "ghug ain't scum, Bunny's your man"

With 2 minutes left, pyxxy shows up to vote ghug.

damo says "bozo you've got this wrong"

and then posts "NO" when he sees pyxxy's vote.


Summary:

damo comes off REALLY towny here at the end.

Bona and Flum come off badly. ESPECIALLY if damo-bozo-me all town. They left when it looked very safe for scum.

pyxxy comes off pretty good. Confused town jumping on and off ghug, not unstable busser.

this shit about me and flum 'leaving' (i had to eat dinner with my family, which is obviously a scummy thing to do, and flum was at a wedding so ???) meaning we're scum is such a conf-bias thing that merely just agrees with what other people have been posting recently, and as far as i can tell from this post, totally unsubstantiated by reasoning

do you have any original thoughts, reads, or reasoning in all of your wallposts?

[BunnyGo]

So in conclusion:

Could Chaqa - Damo be a pair? It's possible.

On re-reading some of this stuff Damo comes across as pretty scummy D1 and D2.

I would now like to hear from Chaqa and, optionally, from Damo.

##Unvote.

What do you think of the last 5 posts of EOD2?

[Bonatogether]

bongo why do you doubt people's irl reasons for absence only when you believe they're scum?

you haven't asked if brain was really on a road trip or really was fishing

yet you question that i'm graduating, when you know that i'm of that age, and it's that time of year

[Bonatogether]

I'm feeling pretty good about the bona vote. Don't hate the flum wagon for POE, and nothing he's done has been towny.

Early reasons included:

Bona fixating on bozo early.

Bona being "mean"

Then noticed that bona and ghug got together on bozo early. Questioned if they would, and yeah...they would.

Bona has voted bozo first two days and now off wagon on pyxxy. Disappeared when it may have been TvTvT yesterday.

yet you fail to explain why any of those are firmly not town me, or are definitely scum me

[Jamiet99uk]

So in conclusion:

Could Chaqa - Damo be a pair? It's possible.

On re-reading some of this stuff Damo comes across as pretty scummy D1 and D2.

I would now like to hear from Chaqa and, optionally, from Damo.

##Unvote.

What do you think of the last 5 posts of EOD2?

By those two, or the very last five posts of the phase?

[BunnyGo]

In conclusion (for bona and others):

damo comes off REALLY towny EOD2

bozo doesn't look good--seems like potential theatre with ghug.

brain looks very good.

chaqa looks good in the method of pushing ghug (different than when he pushed kgray)

bona looks sus BOTH for his shading of ghug and not voting AND for his putting family obligations first while the leading wagons may have all been town.

pyxxy comes off really good/confused towny.

Flum comes off badly for similar reasons to bona.

Nothing about jamie...he was not impactful in any way.


Scum reads based on EOD2:

bozo (if theatre with ghug)
bona
flum
jamie?

town reads:
damo!!!
pyxxy
chaqa
brain

[BunnyGo]

So in conclusion:

Could Chaqa - Damo be a pair? It's possible.

On re-reading some of this stuff Damo comes across as pretty scummy D1 and D2.

I would now like to hear from Chaqa and, optionally, from Damo.

##Unvote.

What do you think of the last 5 posts of EOD2?

By those two, or the very last five posts of the phase?

7 last posts of the phase.

[Bonatogether]

In conclusion (for bona and others):


bona looks sus BOTH for his shading of ghug and not voting AND for his putting family obligations first while the leading wagons may have all been town.

brain

fuck you

there's no way you seriously think this is scummy in ANY way

[BunnyGo]

bongo why do you doubt people's irl reasons for absence only when you believe they're scum?

you haven't asked if brain was really on a road trip or really was fishing

yet you question that i'm graduating, when you know that i'm of that age, and it's that time of year

I don't doubt you at all...I haven't once questioned you graduating (I congratulated you even). I haven't questioned brain. I haven't questioned Flum. Merely noted that the timing of last posts and status seem interesting. Usually scum players make it happen if need be.

[Bonatogether]

that's actually so bullshit

[BunnyGo]

In conclusion (for bona and others):


bona looks sus BOTH for his shading of ghug and not voting AND for his putting family obligations first while the leading wagons may have all been town.

brain

fuck you

there's no way you seriously think this is scummy in ANY way

I'm thinking mean bona is different than I've seen a long long while. Maybe ever. It's off putting.

[Bonatogether]

bongo why do you doubt people's irl reasons for absence only when you believe they're scum?

you haven't asked if brain was really on a road trip or really was fishing

yet you question that i'm graduating, when you know that i'm of that age, and it's that time of year

I don't doubt you at all...I haven't once questioned you graduating (I congratulated you even). I haven't questioned brain. I haven't questioned Flum. Merely noted that the timing of last posts and status seem interesting. Usually scum players make it happen if need be.

you clearly are doubting it when you use quotation marks around the word 'leaves'

you clearly are doubting it when you say that it's scummy