M1025 Game Thread

[brainbomb]

I bet one of them is scum.

Oh no.
this isnt good.

this isnt good at all. gonna need a moment here but, this basically makes it seem like its just chaqa-jamie as the last two scum. especially given what else is happening on this page right now.

huh...

why...? Because Jamie is saying 1 but not both, and is right about at least 1?

bunny dumbtells is a scum trait he has

[bozotheclown]

<snip>

@bozo: did you think ghug was scum at the time or not?

<snip>


Conclusions: bozo looks bad here on reread, but not horrible. damo probably town, brain probably town.

@bozo: see above in red.

I answered that already when I said that ghug was my top scum read for the entire D2.

[brainbomb]

##vote bunnygo

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamie scum pairs

Jamie - Bunny
If I imagine a world where the two both end up as scum together again I would think they would both want to mix up play style a ton from lurking. They both lurked, and mechanics didn't do them favors. So what did work for them? They both survived until a POE got the best of them and they saw town almost devolve into madness.
I cant dismiss this being the scumteam because they both seem to be nervous, dancing around issues, acting bewildered by peoples inexplicable takes

Why do I seem nervous?

[Bonatogether]

What did you mean by checking discord?

this feels self-evident

Specifically what information about this game did you find out by checking discord?

in this game? nothing

in games where i'm scum, like i was referring to? quite a lot

[Jamiet99uk]

jamie why do you townread bunny

Quote me saying I do?

[brainbomb]

jamie why do you townread bunny

Quote me saying I do?

So you dont?

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm nervous Brainbomb has caught me and my scum-mates Bunny, Chaqa, Fluminator and Damo.

[Bonatogether]

my current voting preference among the top three wagons is jamie > bongo > flum

i may be coming around on pyxxy

[brainbomb]

I'm nervous Brainbomb has caught me and my scum-mates Bunny, Chaqa, Fluminator and Damo.

which of these do you find most preposterous

[Chaqa]

I'm nervous Brainbomb has caught me and my scum-mates Bunny, Chaqa, Fluminator and Damo.

which of these do you find most preposterous

YEs

[Jamiet99uk]

jamie why do you townread bunny

Quote me saying I do?

So you dont?

He is a null, I would say.

I townread you, despite this current tinfoiling, I townread Chaqa, and I'm inclined to townread Bona although his flip could be informative I guess.

I scumread Fluminator and I'm inclined to scumread Damo. My scumread on Bozo has not entirely worn off but he's not my favourite today.

Pyxxy and BunnyGo pretty null.

[Jamiet99uk]

Pyxxy and BunnyGo pretty null.

NOTE: This means I am not sure what my read on them is, not that they haven't done anything noteworthy. I'm just finding them hard to sort.

[brainbomb]

Pyxxy and BunnyGo pretty null.

NOTE: This means I am not sure what my read on them is, not that they haven't done anything noteworthy. I'm just finding them hard to sort.

A good sorting point for them is they both killed ghug so which one if either, or both seems more likely to be genuine in their effort to get ghug killed.

[damo666]

I'm gone in half an hour or less.

Out of current wagons Flum is by far the best imo.

[bozotheclown]

So to re-explaiin the Damo/Bunny and Jamie/Bona exclusions, I simply don't believe all three scum would join a wagon together outside maybe the final hour or two of the day, so I've excluded pairs that would have been required to do so.

I was looking at the damo/BunnyGo case and ghug and BunnyGo joined damo in voting for PE D2 at almost the same time for almost the same reason:

Town
chaqa
ghug
bunny
jamie
Eden
bona
fluminator
pyxxy
damo
bozo


okay with anyone dying below the bona line

ok you can have my vote today

this list is based

##vote bozotheclown

weak.

@brain: increase the go/no-go line to Eden.

##vote eden

Town
chaqa
ghug
bunny
jamie
Eden
bona
fluminator
pyxxy
damo
bozo


okay with anyone dying below the bona line

ok you can have my vote today

this list is based

##vote bozotheclown

Oh I guess we're not still on it.

##VOTE Eden

So, ghug likely did not see BunnyGo vote for PE before he voted for PE, which means he did not make a choice to be on the same wagon with damo and BunnyGo.

Also, this similar response to PE's post makes it seem that ghug and BunnyGo had the same agenda, where I don't think most players, and as a result most town players, had this reaction to PE's post.

[Chaqa]

Hmmm.

That still makes me want to vote Damo before Bunny, I think.

[bozotheclown]

I'm gone in half an hour or less.

Out of current wagons Flum is by far the best imo.

Why, outside of your calculation?

[Fluminator]

I need someone other than chaqa to shake me and tell me that Im just being unfair to Jamie here. or tell me there is some logic to what im saying..

something. please. anybody

I've been suspicious of Jamiet ever since that whole overly defensive misread of a Bunny post. It's never fully cleared my head.
It was actually you and ghug that swayed me to let it drop for a bit lol.

[BunnyGo]

Continuing the EOD 2 analysis:

We last left off with ghug defending me hard from everyone. Damo's and brain's interactions with ghug seem towny on aging. Bozo don't look good, but not terrible.

Flum makes wedding excuses.

Eden votes me leaving damo because he expects the wagon to fall (I'm the rest of the wagon).

ghug argues with brain and suggests that brain's townread of bozo is wrong...

bozo then immediately susses ghug for the post.

brain says pyxxy is best intel elimination.

ghug agrees about going for pyxxy, and so does Eden.

Eden also says I'm a big loss to kill if town and big win to kill if scum.

damo wants me, also doubts eden (OMGWS)

bozo defends damo from Eden.

ghug argues with bozo about tunneling on him/eden/me.

Chaqa calls you guys out for a Bunny wagon.

Bozo defends his views. Then says damo hard to read, but he town reads him, then wonders why Chaqa doesn't scum read me.


ghug votes bozo

bozo responds by asking ghug how he feels about me. This is a strange response.

ghug and bozo go back and forth about me. Ghug says I'd care more about my appearance as scum. (@pyxxy: this is what I said later in my cribnotes about my fault as a scum player)

I show up and yell at you guys. I call out bozo specifically.

ghug then addresses me and asks me to get Eden. "wanna kill Eden with me?"

bozo asks me again about why I was willing to vote worcej.

pyxxy shows up and laments the page count.

Flum shows up again about wedding.

I call bozo a Dumb Dumb.

ghug disagrees with me about damo being obvscum.

I make a case against damo again, and state a townread of bozo again. I address Flum's wedding drama.

Chaqa claims bozo and I are 2 of his top 3 townreads and dreads our wagons. Asks people to get ghug.

brain "flips" his reads to say bona, me, pyxxy are the fair scum shots.

I respond to chaqa and vote ghug. At the time, only pyxxy was voting ghug.

brain and I briefly interact. Then he votes pyxxy.

chaqa joins pyxxy and me on ghug.

pyxxy then argues with me and chaqa about stuff, then apologizes to chaqa.

pyxxy then says he's looking forward to voting me and seeing why I'm voted.

ghug pushes me to vote eden again.

Bona tells me my read on damo is not obvious.

pyxxy continues arguing with chaqa about his reads being static.

Bona says he'd "vote ghug for kicks, but not really"

Bona asserts pyxxy is town for arguing with chaqa.

brainbomb says "ghug just so you know im not gonna let you die"

Eden susses chaqa lightly

I push again for damo wagon, and chaqa says is better than bunny/bozo.

I leave the ghug wagon for trying damo again.

Chaqa says we should keep trying for ghug instead.

I push back that damo is too obv scum to pass up.

brain jumps off of voting me to join me on damo.

and tells pyxxy that his timing is suspicious.

VOTE COUNT

BunnyGo (4): Fluminator, damo666, bozotheclown, President Eden
bozotheclown (3): Bonatogether, Jamiet99uk, ghug
ghug (2): pyxxy, Chaqa
damo666 (2): BunnyGo, brainbomb

Bunny's tart is about to get popped.

45 minutes remain in D2.

summary:

ghug interacted A LOT with me, nudging me to vote Eden repeatedly. Looks like pocketing to me instead of theatre (go check for yourself!)

Chaqa pushed a ghug wagon subtly, and hard.

pyxxy sussed both the people voting ghug with him.

Bona looks bad for his ghug statement.

bozo and ghug look like theatre.

Flum was barely here.

brain somehow looks good going from voting me to voting WITH me.