M1025 Game Thread

[brainbomb]

the way pyxxy showed signs of being suspicious about ghug throughout game I dont think pyxxy busses in that way that much. taking town players sides vs ghug like pyx did wrt eden.
pyx moves from bunny to ghug could be suspect but none of it stands out as made in preparation like a scum would

[brainbomb]

The person I wonder about is Jamie.

[BunnyGo]

##vote Flum

I can’t square a POE that doesn’t include Flum.

Possible deep threats are chaqa and brain.

But Damo, pyxxy, bona, Jamie (?…?…maybe a threat)

All look good.

Still need to reread the EOD 2. I remember a lot of interesting talking about ghug and counter wagons that wasn’t recorded in votes. But need to reread still.

[BunnyGo]

##Vote Bunnygo

Woke up feeling pretty confident on this

When he's scum he talks about his schedule and when he's not available to play. When he's town he doesn't bother with that.

The notes he sends to the God thread are usually pretty detailed too and I don't believe the notes he shared are what he actually sent which means it was just a performative statement to look town. (Or he's sending notes to the God thread as scum about potential miskill targets)

This feels like a way to push me. As opposed to Eden’s comment “god help me I believe that”

[pyxxy]

Nah. I think Pyxxy is the only possible busser (and I know you love a bus).

There is at least one scum in {Bona, Jamie, Flum, brain} possibly both

VCA working backwards from D" making no assumptions other than known facts:

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Town core {damo, Bozo, Bunny, Chaqa, Pyxxy}

Possible scum: Bona, brain, Flum, Jamie

I find it hard to order those 4 but gun to head I'll say Flum, Bona, Jamie, brain

##vote Flum but essentially happy with any of those 4

damo your big VCA definitely shows effort but given it exactly matches what you decided the suspool should be during night, it kinda just feels like you drafted it at night with your scum partner

the original post is more authentic (yes I'm just bothering bunny) because theoretically it was before you had time to plan for what to do after your scum partner ghug flipped

so it kinda just feels like you reacted in the moment and now are trying to justify it

you've already voted bona and flum today, you've sussed jamie in the thread. only one untouched is brain, but given I townread brain (and so do others), I wanna think that that list is town and you're just scum

but then that makes me have to think that bunny is actually town somehow because of this difference idea that I'm chewing on

if anyone including you two have thoughts on this, I welcome all comments. I'm thinking this is where my focus is today. I also wanted to look at the midday D2 wagons again since the pool of people that have at least one person sussing them is very very large, and I want to maybe try to use the push and pull around ghug to help us narrow things down

Your difference idea is because if something *I* did, right? But if I’m town, then I don’t *know* Damo is different…right?

It only works if I’m scum.

Cmon…you’re a man of logic. Stay focused.

I mean sure that's part of it but you're also both pushing each other at a time that I would deem _inopportune_ for mutual bussing. That smells like a difference to me.

[brainbomb]

Chaqa
Bozo
Pyxxy
Bunny
damo
Jamie
Fluminator
bona

[Chaqa]

Chaqa
Bozo
Pyxxy
Bunny
damo
Jamie
Fluminator
bona

I would swap Jamie and pyxxy, but otherwise that’s kinda where I am. Damo and pyxxy are more null than Flum or Bona

[BunnyGo]

damo your big VCA definitely shows effort but given it exactly matches what you decided the suspool should be during night, it kinda just feels like you drafted it at night with your scum partner

the original post is more authentic (yes I'm just bothering bunny) because theoretically it was before you had time to plan for what to do after your scum partner ghug flipped

so it kinda just feels like you reacted in the moment and now are trying to justify it

you've already voted bona and flum today, you've sussed jamie in the thread. only one untouched is brain, but given I townread brain (and so do others), I wanna think that that list is town and you're just scum

but then that makes me have to think that bunny is actually town somehow because of this difference idea that I'm chewing on

if anyone including you two have thoughts on this, I welcome all comments. I'm thinking this is where my focus is today. I also wanted to look at the midday D2 wagons again since the pool of people that have at least one person sussing them is very very large, and I want to maybe try to use the push and pull around ghug to help us narrow things down

Your difference idea is because if something *I* did, right? But if I’m town, then I don’t *know* Damo is different…right?

It only works if I’m scum.

Cmon…you’re a man of logic. Stay focused.

I mean sure that's part of it but you're also both pushing each other at a time that I would deem _inopportune_ for mutual bussing. That smells like a difference to me.

Again...assuming that I'm town: it says NOTHING except I *believed* him to be scum at that time. So again, the logic only works when I'm scum.

Stay with me pyxxy. You're a man of science and reason. You helped invent the Covid vaccine.

[BunnyGo]

Chaqa
Bozo
Pyxxy
Bunny
damo
Jamie
Fluminator
bona

I would swap Jamie and pyxxy, but otherwise that’s kinda where I am. Damo and pyxxy are more null than Flum or Bona

I'd swap you two for bona.

[brainbomb]

you swap hot pockets for pizza rolls and eat them without letting them cool first

[brainbomb]

if bozo or chaqa is mafia here it would be among a top 5 greatest scum plays ive ever seen in mafia history

[brainbomb]

im not gonna tinfoil because the reason chaqa and bozo is alive is that mafia would need a howitzer to take out all the towncore at this point. and our doc is doing just fine at staying concealed.

if theres a deep wolf it could be bozo but id be really only worried about that if bozo was still around in a final five and I sincerely doubt thatll happen

[Chaqa]

I’m thinking that in general it’s unlikely all three mafia would be on the same wagon until maybe EoD, so I’m gonna go through and find pairs that would disqualify under that assumption. Also pairs ghug joined.

[Chaqa]

Ok so I don’t think it’s brain-Bona.

Or Damo-Bunny

Or Jamie-Bona

That’s all for tonight but more to come

[bozotheclown]

Why is it also damo now?

This was ghug's last post, and while it may be WIFOM, it still makes me think damo is probably town.

Also, I think ghug would have been trying to prevent his DK in the last 22 minutes if the other 3 wagons were town, unless he was unavailable, and he did not post anything to indicate he would not be available at EOD.

Did ghug do ANYTHING? I’m thinking he was afk

He last posted with 22 minutes left, but he could have been AFK after that by choice.

[bozotheclown]

I'm not 100% sure on Bunny being town, but I don't think we should vote him today, at least. Do you think that's reasonable?

It may be reasonable, but it is not my preference. I think BunnyGo is mafia, and if he is not, finding that out today provides significant information about D2 EOD.

But flipping YOU provides D1 AND D2 EOD intel

You said I was obviously town, though.

[bozotheclown]

I'd like to hear why. Eliminating pairs is pretty useful now.

I don’t think wolf!bona pulls that with wolf!pyxxy. Too weird.

The whole misreading the flip thing. I just can’t see it.

Why did you drop that after N1?

[bozotheclown]

i cite my previous games

the one with that koala and maniac comes to mind but i forget the number

You don’t do your catchup first?

no i skim discord for things and then i go read the thread

What did you mean by checking discord?

[bozotheclown]

VCA working backwards from D" making no assumptions other than known facts:

worcej rdr eden: dead town

ghug: dead scum

damo: live town

Day 2

Bona: prob not scumpair with Bozo (though could be bussing)
Bozo: switching to ghug at Bunny4:ghug3 would only make sense for scum Bozo if and only if Bunny is Roleblocker; however very probably town
Brain: nothing discernible
Bunny: Possible roleblocker but only if scumteam is precisely ghug, Bozo, Bunny; likely town
Chaqa: could have been caught in a bus (we know how he likes a bus) but only makes sense if Bunny is roleblocker but given the above comment on Bunny must assume he is town
Flum: probably not scumpair with Bunny
Jamie: probably not scumpair with Bozo
Pyx: could have bussed but again probably only if Bunny is roleblocker so given the Bunny comment must assume town (also he could have tied it)

ghug voting Bozo makes little sense unless the scumteam is precisely ghug, Bozo, Bunny

Day 1

ghug moving off Bozo when vote became worcej 6:Bozo 4 makes no sense as a bus so must conclude Bozo is town.

Bozo town implies Bunny is town which implies Chaqa and Pyxxy are town.

Town core {damo, Bozo, Bunny, Chaqa, Pyxxy}

Possible scum: Bona, brain, Flum, Jamie

I find it hard to order those 4 but gun to head I'll say Flum, Bona, Jamie, brain

##vote Flum but essentially happy with any of those 4

I don't see how you conclude that me being town implies BunnyGo is town. Why doesn't ghug voting for me make sense to you if I am town and BunnyGo is mafia?

[bozotheclown]

I think this is a valid reason to ##Vote Fluminator.

ghug refusing to vote Fluminator because Chaqa was pushing him to is what I think ghug would do as town, so I don't think it says much about Fluminator's alignment.