MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#2241 Post by rdrivera2005 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:27 pm

xorxes wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:21 pm
y2kjbk wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:15 pm
Xorxes, why don't you start off this item reveal idea of yours if you're so convinced it's the right plan?
As I said, we should all reveal together at the last minute of the night.

But Vecna, rivera and even ND are all smart enough to understand that, so I don't know why I bother responding to you...
Xorxes have a valid point, I am just not sure if the mass claim is better done this EON or the next. For two reasons, first we need all people with unknown items to claim at EON and considering Vecna's and ND (and Worcej if you include him), it's unlikely to work.
Second point is nurse is only used when it did a save and if it's not used tonight and we mass claim, it's lost as scum can roleblocked it forever.
Have you considered this drawbacks?

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#2242 Post by y2kjbk » Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:32 pm

Town have been trying to solve the scum puzzle, with items aiding in that hunt. Xorxes seems to have been just trying to solve the item puzzle.

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#2243 Post by y2kjbk » Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:39 pm

Also, here's a thought: the fact that Squigs did not fight his lynch means that there was at least one scum buddy bussing him. I don't see Squigs rolling over like that with both buddies trying to save him.

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#2244 Post by xorxes » Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:40 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:27 pm

Xorxes have a valid point, I am just not sure if the mass claim is better done this EON or the next. For two reasons, first we need all people with unknown items to claim at EON and considering Vecna's and ND (and Worcej if you include him), it's unlikely to work.
Yes, we need to coordinate.
Second point is nurse is only used when it did a save and if it's not used tonight and we mass claim, it's lost as scum can roleblocked it forever.
Have you considered this drawbacks?
Yes, but the claimant will (almost) be clear themself. The longer we wait, the less clearing the claim will be.

But yes, it probably does make sense to wait another day.

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#2245 Post by y2kjbk » Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:41 pm

shocker, xorxes relents on the item reveal plan for tonight

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#2246 Post by y2kjbk » Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:46 pm

did worcej/xorxes bus squigs?

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#2247 Post by yavuzovic » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:06 pm

I'm looking forward for the copscan

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#2248 Post by y2kjbk » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:08 pm

It's been a quiet night for worcej...

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#2249 Post by y2kjbk » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:10 pm

screaming at durga for tying it on a seeming attack on her that persisted throughout D2, then vanishes after the lynch.

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#2250 Post by y2kjbk » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:14 pm

worcej wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:55 pm
y2kjbk wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:53 pm
i don't understand this at all. I'll be shocked if ND flips scum.
##vote Tom - let's see what happens.
worcej, is this actually why you switched? because of me town-reading ND?

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#2251 Post by y2kjbk » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:16 pm

worcej wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:37 pm
flash2015 wrote:
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This is more what I was expecting for D1.
Squiggs didn't fight against the lynch and took it on the chin that he was obv!scum.
Is that all you took away from Squigs' lynch?

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#2252 Post by y2kjbk » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:38 pm

I saw worcej pop in for second, doesn't look like he hung around.

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#2253 Post by y2kjbk » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:41 pm

gonna log off for a bit, if anyone has a solid case for someone other than xorxes or worcej I wanna hear it.

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#2254 Post by rdrivera2005 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:43 pm

yavuzovic wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:06 pm
I'm looking forward for the copscan
This I agree, if Yav can be cleared scum will have a hard task ahead.

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#2255 Post by damo666 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:46 pm

y2kjbk wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:41 pm
gonna log off for a bit, if anyone has a solid case for someone other than xorxes or worcej I wanna hear it.
Phew!

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#2256 Post by rdrivera2005 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:46 pm

xorxes wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:40 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:27 pm

Xorxes have a valid point, I am just not sure if the mass claim is better done this EON or the next. For two reasons, first we need all people with unknown items to claim at EON and considering Vecna's and ND (and Worcej if you include him), it's unlikely to work.
Yes, we need to coordinate.
Second point is nurse is only used when it did a save and if it's not used tonight and we mass claim, it's lost as scum can roleblocked it forever.
Have you considered this drawbacks?
Yes, but the claimant will (almost) be clear themself. The longer we wait, the less clearing the claim will be.

But yes, it probably does make sense to wait another day.
I still think the (lack of) coordination is the biggest risk. Scum doesn't know what item the NK have, so I think it's worth to wait another day to give a possible nurse an extra chance.

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#2257 Post by damo666 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:47 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:43 pm
yavuzovic wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:06 pm
I'm looking forward for the copscan
This I agree, if Yav can be cleared scum will have a hard task ahead.
Indeed

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#2258 Post by worcej » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:54 pm

y2kjbk wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:08 pm
It's been a quiet night for worcej...
PST, I drink a lot, and work. I also have a tendency to lurk in my Mafia games, because I like to watch people fray out at each other instead of goading it. There are a lot of people who have played a lot and I am trying to learn their tendencies to get an idea of the type of player they are and it's much easier to do this without goading it.
y2kjbk wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:14 pm
worcej wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:55 pm
y2kjbk wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:53 pm
i don't understand this at all. I'll be shocked if ND flips scum.
##vote Tom - let's see what happens.
worcej, is this actually why you switched? because of me town-reading ND?
I did not like either wagon. I think they were shit but I was not about to get people to move off either of them. My strongest scum read, knowing I'll still get flamed for it again, is Durga but no one cares still. The possible buddy I find her to possibly have is Vecna - I feel like he is being incredibly distant. He did say he would be not around much, but this is some high-level lurking. His posts yesterday boiled down to one that protects ND, then pushes a 4-man group only, which includes me. Recent posts have been almost wagon starters, with little details as to what is scummy about going on.

A distant second is xorxes due to pushing for item identity instead of scum players. We have few items in play, assuming they still are, that will town-clear anyone.

My town clears are brain/damo/y2k based entirely off their claims and lack of CC's. I think flash acted as town with his shot, because it was quick once the MF read was public. I believe Demon is town and yavu is also, but neither has played very towny to make me go all-in with those ideas.

So, TL;DR: my 3 I'd like to see go are Durga/Vecna/xorxes, in that order of preference.
y2kjbk wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:16 pm
worcej wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:37 pm
flash2015 wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:36 pm
This is more what I was expecting for D1.
Squiggs didn't fight against the lynch and took it on the chin that he was obv!scum.
Is that all you took away from Squigs' lynch?
What I took from D1 Squiggs is he stfu because he knew he was outed and did not want to create/clear any more people by defending. As several have said, he went after me early and pushed for it and if he would've kept going it could've allowed more analysis on who to go for.

MF was quick and a dirty kill, so not much to gain from his play.

At this point, I also believe the repair kit was out of play and we will gain nothing off of it. I am skeptical of the Electro-Shield, but maybe it is still out there. Doctor's kit is somewhat unknown too... I do believe y2k had one, under the correct assumption BB would know.

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#2259 Post by damo666 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:06 pm

worcej wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:54 pm
y2kjbk wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:08 pm
It's been a quiet night for worcej...
PST, I drink a lot, and work. I also have a tendency to lurk in my Mafia games, because I like to watch people fray out at each other instead of goading it. There are a lot of people who have played a lot and I am trying to learn their tendencies to get an idea of the type of player they are and it's much easier to do this without goading it.
y2kjbk wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:14 pm
worcej wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:55 pm
##vote Tom - let's see what happens.
worcej, is this actually why you switched? because of me town-reading ND?
I did not like either wagon. I think they were shit but I was not about to get people to move off either of them. My strongest scum read, knowing I'll still get flamed for it again, is Durga but no one cares still. The possible buddy I find her to possibly have is Vecna - I feel like he is being incredibly distant. He did say he would be not around much, but this is some high-level lurking. His posts yesterday boiled down to one that protects ND, then pushes a 4-man group only, which includes me. Recent posts have been almost wagon starters, with little details as to what is scummy about going on.

A distant second is xorxes due to pushing for item identity instead of scum players. We have few items in play, assuming they still are, that will town-clear anyone.

My town clears are brain/damo/y2k based entirely off their claims and lack of CC's. I think flash acted as town with his shot, because it was quick once the MF read was public. I believe Demon is town and yavu is also, but neither has played very towny to make me go all-in with those ideas.

So, TL;DR: my 3 I'd like to see go are Durga/Vecna/xorxes, in that order of preference.
y2kjbk wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:16 pm
worcej wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:37 pm
Squiggs didn't fight against the lynch and took it on the chin that he was obv!scum.
Is that all you took away from Squigs' lynch?
What I took from D1 Squiggs is he stfu because he knew he was outed and did not want to create/clear any more people by defending. As several have said, he went after me early and pushed for it and if he would've kept going it could've allowed more analysis on who to go for.

MF was quick and a dirty kill, so not much to gain from his play.

At this point, I also believe the repair kit was out of play and we will gain nothing off of it. I am skeptical of the Electro-Shield, but maybe it is still out there. Doctor's kit is somewhat unknown too... I do believe y2k had one, under the correct assumption BB would know.
Opinion on ghug, rdrivera & ND ?

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Re: MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

#2260 Post by y2kjbk » Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:07 pm

did you start drinking right after yelling at Durga for tying the D2 lynch?

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