M1025 Game Thread

[pyxxy]

I expect you to now vote Flum.

That's the point.

Which maybe makes sense if I think Bozo's likely to be town, but I don't, so I can vote him. Or I can vote Eden, who I also think is likely to be scum regardless of bozo's alignment.

you’re just arguing for the sake of arguing

town ghug just does what you’re saying you could do here

hmmmm

[ghug]

My intention here is not to defend Bozo, but to dismantle you and make everyone see you and Flum's scummy nature.

But you are defending bozo. The presupposition of your logic game is that voting bozo isn't allowed and you're attacking me for not agreeing with it.

No, the presupposition of my logic game is to find a compromise you find valid in the world where we don't vote Bozo, because I also don't want to vote Bozo, so of course I'm going to try to find you a productive avenue of your own that aligns with that. Cooperative town shit that town!ghug is usually all for.

If you just want to hear my thoughts, sure. I answered quickly, openly, and willingly. If you're going to get mad at me for not voting in the way you like after the exercise, it's more of a problem.

[pyxxy]

skimming flumigator's d1 iso

would be fine voting for him, not enthused

skimming jimmit's d1

if bongo is scum then jamie is much more likely to be scum, i don't think that goes the other way

actually i think his talking about and interacting with bongo makes him look worse

he can be my second choice of the options i've looked at (not that many)

where was this bona last game :|

[pyxxy]

I'm happy with the wagons a few hours into the day so we'll probably end up killing damo or pyxxy or some shit.

hey now, that's not funny

I could die

[ghug]

I expect you to now vote Flum.

That's the point.

Which maybe makes sense if I think Bozo's likely to be town, but I don't, so I can vote him. Or I can vote Eden, who I also think is likely to be scum regardless of bozo's alignment.

.....oh

I see

that is not a great response

You buy this crap too?

[brainbomb]

actually lets just make this simple


between flum and bozo who do you feel has made more effort to understand the game so far

[ghug]

actually lets just make this simple


between flum and bozo who do you feel has made more effort to understand the game so far

bozo wins that one on activity.

[pyxxy]

ah, so this is what it feels like to be 30 pages behind

this sucks

oh look, it's me, an hour ago :'(

[Chaqa]

But you are defending bozo. The presupposition of your logic game is that voting bozo isn't allowed and you're attacking me for not agreeing with it.

No, the presupposition of my logic game is to find a compromise you find valid in the world where we don't vote Bozo, because I also don't want to vote Bozo, so of course I'm going to try to find you a productive avenue of your own that aligns with that. Cooperative town shit that town!ghug is usually all for.

If you just want to hear my thoughts, sure. I answered quickly, openly, and willingly. If you're going to get mad at me for not voting in the way you like after the exercise, it's more of a problem.

If I'm being honest I don't even know why we're still arguing.

[pyxxy]

the things bozo was doing and is doing so far arent absurd, they arent strange, they arent awkward.

they are to vote for Eden based on a list made by chaqa
then to claim the reason for doing so was he thinks chaqa was scum with eden
then says it was all a joke
then starts a battle with ghug
then flutters his vote around
vanishes
proposes we randomize day ones


these arent WEIRD choices these are things SCUM proposes instead of anything actually useful

........hm

[pyxxy]

If he's scum, I think Flum is a good bet given his vote bouncing.

If he's town, I don't think it tells us that much, so I default to like Eden/Bona/Flum.

this made me go through your ISO to see if you actually picked a side on bozo and you did which is good

however you picked him being scum which is bad. not bad like he's bad, bad like, bad, because you're wrong. you get what I mean

like did you see the VCA stuff that I posted last night?

I saw it. I'm not sure I buy it. You're basically saying they would have piled onto killing you to save bozo if he were scum, but there were several other wagons to pile onto, they could have been bussing him or aggressively pushing their own wagons, they could have been not around or practicing patience a couple hours before EoD. I don't see how you can reliably conclude bozo is town based on that.

that, is, uh, not what I thought I was trying to say

I have to eat lunch soon but I'll make sure to resummarize my night posts, maybe I was tired and thought they were clearer than they actually are

what I was trying to work towards in
viewtopic.php?p=347258&sid=d059dc404c5c ... af#p347258
was that I think
bozo, pyxxy (myself), Jamiet, and Flum

are all town wagons, but they felt like weak wagons, there were no strong wagons, so I think scum was maybe a little paranoid that one of them could get flashwagoned

the second part of analysis about people who voted for me was a bit more theoretical so eh it's in my mind but if I get people to take away one thing it's my opinion about those stagnant wagons and when they happened and how we managed to kill worcej post-stagnation

[Fluminator]

I expect you to now vote Flum.

That's the point.

Which maybe makes sense if I think Bozo's likely to be town, but I don't, so I can vote him. Or I can vote Eden, who I also think is likely to be scum regardless of bozo's alignment.

You just said you would suspect Flum if Bozo flipped town or if he flipped scum, but yet you don’t want to vote Flum? This is really weird and I feel like I’ve caught you.

Ghug and Flum two of the scum confirmed.

##vote ghug

Unless ghug is scum and just doing whatever, I could see him feeling bad for me that I'm miskilled d1 or d2 literally almost every game (or forced to claim).
It's almost always you that pushes for it too and it's a little frustrating because you never give reasons.

You're lucky I still feel bad for the time I was actually scum and ripped into you for pushing me or I'd be a lot more bitter and mean about it lol.

[pyxxy]

Which maybe makes sense if I think Bozo's likely to be town, but I don't, so I can vote him. Or I can vote Eden, who I also think is likely to be scum regardless of bozo's alignment.

.....oh

I see

that is not a great response

You buy this crap too?

............

I mean

catching up I kinda developed a you-and-Eden-were-distancing theory

then Eden's post about "town ghug would just do this" honestly feels kinda like scum reminding scum of how to act towny

I don't think it's crap

[pyxxy]

I'm just trying to square Chaqa's case with Chaqa's approach

not sure that really makes sense but given I already felt meh on you I feel pretty fine dropping ##VOTE ghug before I go eat

[Fluminator]

Can anyone answer my question if they ever read the flavour before the reveal?
If I can find one other person who does that I'll probably feel more at ease lol.

[pyxxy]

actually lets just make this simple


between flum and bozo who do you feel has made more effort to understand the game so far

specifically "understand"

recency bias says Flum, bozo only has 4 posts today and the 4th was an unexplained vote on ghug

but I also think bozo is town so, :/

[Jamiet99uk]

Can anyone answer my question if they ever read the flavour before the reveal?
If I can find one other person who does that I'll probably feel more at ease lol.

Yes, I do that sometimes.

[pyxxy]

I'm just trying to square Chaqa's case with Chaqa's approach

not sure that really makes sense but given I already felt meh on you I feel pretty fine dropping ##VOTE ghug before I go eat

OH okay I think I figured it out

it's that I don't see get Flum is scum

I guess I kinda made that obvious when responding to brain's question but yeah

ghug possibly being disingenuous about his voting preferences in a scummy manner? for sure

that meaning that Flum is scum? not so sure

[pyxxy]

like if scum partners always resisted voting their partners that poorly and obviously then the term "bussing" wouldn't exist

[brainbomb]

actually lets just make this simple


between flum and bozo who do you feel has made more effort to understand the game so far

specifically "understand"

recency bias says Flum, bozo only has 4 posts today and the 4th was an unexplained vote on ghug

but I also think bozo is town so, :/

kinda makes forming a one size fits all criteria for bare minimums of acceptable behavior hard. nuanced positions which try to have the argument one way but not the other ect.

is bozo showing town tells of being curious
because flum is