M1025 Game Thread

[Fluminator]

lmao Jamiet, all your avatars. I don't get it
Do you even know who that is

I actually have no idea. Who is it?

Someone you know you can trust just by looking at him

[damo666]

##vote Flum just for being annoying

[Fluminator]

##vote Flum just for being annoying

[Jamiet99uk]

lmao Jamiet, all your avatars. I don't get it
Do you even know who that is

I actually have no idea. Who is it?

Someone you know you can trust just by looking at him

He looks like he wears the same brand of lipstick as Chaqa.

[damo666]

##vote Flum just for being annoying

Lol

[President Eden]

this is a lot of NK analysis posting
President Eden, is your opinion of RDR so low that you'd never consider killing him as scum?

It would be a strange thread environment in this context, assuming I didn’t think he were PR. It’s not that I think he’s bad at town so much as I think he’s basically always pushable as a miskill if he’s not PR. I left him alive in your and my last game together and trusted my team’s ability to dominate the thread.

If he were broadly townread and no better target appeared, sure I’d kill him. If I thought he were PR then I’d kill him too.

I literally cannot diagnose whether that stuff applies here because I don’t know who is mafia and how they would approach this scenario. I don’t think we have anybody who is universally townread, but maybe scum thinks there’s someone they can’t push. I can’t fathom why rdr would be that somebody so I think it’s just PR hunting. He probably said something that someone thought was PR hint.

But it’s not about disrespect for rdr as an analyst or player, I just know there’s a large body of work that shows he is pushable, and I don’t kill people I can push unless I’m setting up something specific

[pyxxy]

ah, so this is what it feels like to be 30 pages behind

this sucks

[brainbomb]

Im at this unique pivot moment where I could pivot to dig in, get really intolerably rude, or change all my reads.

[pyxxy]

i have no conception of why pyxxy died

what

[Chaqa]

What's the point of this?

If he's scum, I think Flum is a good bet given his vote bouncing.

If he's town, I don't think it tells us that much, so I default to like Eden/Bona/Flum.

I expect you to now vote Flum.

That's the point.

Which maybe makes sense if I think Bozo's likely to be town, but I don't, so I can vote him. Or I can vote Eden, who I also think is likely to be scum regardless of bozo's alignment.

You just said you would suspect Flum if Bozo flipped town or if he flipped scum, but yet you don’t want to vote Flum? This is really weird and I feel like I’ve caught you.

[Chaqa]

Ghug and Flum two of the scum confirmed.

##vote ghug

[pyxxy]

I'm beginning to thinkEren looks ingenuine.

The ghug/PE/BunnyGo interactions look odd to me, they could have been bussing each other D1.

my context is different cramming catchup vs live posting but

yeah

I'm wondering if Eden/ghug was actually distancing

at a minimum I imagine there's a dividing line of either one in Eden/ghug | bunny scum, and vice versa?

just a weird weird D1 convo

[pyxxy]

Ghug and Flum two of the scum confirmed.

##vote ghug

wait you're having all this fun without me T.T

this isn't thought out but smell test on Eden/Flum/ghug team?

names are alphabetical I haven't read whatever additional developments today has revealed so it's not an ordering

[brainbomb]

VOTE COUNT

worcej (6): President Eden, Chaqa, damo666, Fluminator, bozotheclown, BunnyGo
bozotheclown (5): Bonatogether, worcej, brainbomb, ghug, Jamiet99uk
pyxxy (1): rdrivera2005
BunnyGo (1): pyxxy

Worcej is set to be fried to a crisp.

Day ends in less than 8 minutes.

of the 6 on worcej and their stated reasons for voting there
Intial:
Eden

##vote worcej because he’s never VT and that means this is 75% scum by default

i think worcej is scum here

##vote worcej

Eden
Day-1 16:34
page 17 / orig i guess i will elaborate

disdainful lurking is both
a) scum indicative generally
b) something worc does as scum but not really as town

this man as town catches up and has thoughts to share (see last game, 10x the activity yet he's still dialed in)

this man as scum lurks and looks down his nose at you and dares you to kill him

obviously sometimes he's got NAI reasons for lurking, but he'll usually share them, and he does the best he can with what he's got

brain, Jamie, Bunny, Chaqa are off the table for me today. damo is getting close. I prefer not to get bozo but he’s on the table for me still

re: worc and easiest case… maybe. if something did bother me about it, it would be that two people joined it as a joke and have found reasons to stay on it, which is slightly incongruent. but I think Chaqa got it right that worc is just scum ducking and expecting/hoping the wagon goes away, so I’m not gonna worry about it for now. just seemed odd that he suddenly was at the top with so little discussion

re: bozo, I don’t get the scum motivation for his posts. just seems like he’s being targeted for being goofy or weird or whatever which is primo miskill bait

On the one hand Eden hinted at wanting ghug or pyx to die and saw neither really happen. He saw worcej never really try which is not a sudden progression and feels like one eden would think was legit from early on to end of day. And then the bozo shift is what id focus on for being out of the realm of the other four.
Im not sure how you go from “still on the table for me” to “I dont get scum motivation from his posts”

[ghug]

I expect you to now vote Flum.

That's the point.

Which maybe makes sense if I think Bozo's likely to be town, but I don't, so I can vote him. Or I can vote Eden, who I also think is likely to be scum regardless of bozo's alignment.

You just said you would suspect Flum if Bozo flipped town or if he flipped scum, but yet you don’t want to vote Flum? This is really weird and I feel like I’ve caught you.

This is dumb, Chaqa.

I'm saying that flum's odds go up specifically if bozo is scum and my reads would otherwise look pretty similar. That fact pushes Flum over bona for me, who are probably equal if bozo is town, but it still leaves Eden and bozo as my top scumreads.

[ghug]

I've also stated I'm happy with all three wagons right now. It's not like I'm defending Flum.

[brainbomb]

Is scumreading Bunny necessarily scummy if you don't know him that well, though?

I thought Pyxxy's effort and progression in the catch-up felt authentic.

I did not have the same reaction.

I’m starting to wonder if pyxxy is actually town but ghug TMI’d his way to the correct answer

After this post eden took bozo off the table and the next time I asked if bozo was an option eden responds with a simple no.


@Eden did bozos opinion on pyxyy influence your decision to no longer have bozo on the table as a consideration?

[Jamiet99uk]

I've also stated I'm happy with all three wagons right now. It's not like I'm defending Flum.

Why are you sitting on your own on Eden then?

[pyxxy]

If Bozo is scum then from VCA Bona and Jamie look good, {Chaqa, Eden, Pyx, rdr} null, {Bra Bun Flum ghug (me)} bad. Since I don't think the bad group are particularly bad I suspect Bozo is town.

If Bozo is town there is not a lot to be gleaned other than the suspicion there is at least one scum in {brain, pyx, Bona}, brain and pyx for being off 2 lead wagons and Bona for being on Bozo from early doors.

I wonder if damo and I solve similarly

I’m roughly at

Town-Bozo, brain, Bunny, Damo
Null-Bona, Jamie, pyxxy, rivera
Scummy-Flum, ghug

oh so this was like, already a thing, dang thought Chaqa was posting something fresh as I posted my stale catchup

[ghug]

I've also stated I'm happy with all three wagons right now. It's not like I'm defending Flum.

Why are you sitting on your own on Eden then?

Oh right, he's down to one now. I meant him and not me as the third, (hopefully) obviously.

He's my top scumread. Damo and brain have both been on him recently, and damo's current vote is a joke. It's not like it's not viable.