M1025 Game Thread

[Chaqa]

How did you think pyxxy died, Bona?

[Bonatogether]

Ok…so you think pyxxy is town?

Who is scum?

i lean town on him

i vote bozo

Why? For either

i get him

i spent a fair amount of time arguing with bozo. read it

[Bonatogether]

How did you think pyxxy died, Bona?

i thought he died by dk because i thought i saw that on the bot

idk

[President Eden]

this bona/pyxxy thing sucks

i really think he got trolled in scumchat
but if he just randomly derped as town and i miskill him for it then i'm never going to get over it
but if he actually fucked up and we don't kill him for it then i'm never going to get over that either

[President Eden]

my gut reaction is to just ignore it but

i want it to be real so bad

the interesting(?) part is that i think pyx has a good shot at being mafia but basically can't be scum with bona, who is also not a bad shot atm

[ghug]

this bona/pyxxy thing sucks

i really think he got trolled in scumchat
but if he just randomly derped as town and i miskill him for it then i'm never going to get over it
but if he actually fucked up and we don't kill him for it then i'm never going to get over that either

So we have to read him on his other merits.

You were thinking pyxxy was town towards the end of the day. What changed?

[Bonatogether]

this bona/pyxxy thing sucks

i really think he got trolled in scumchat
but if he just randomly derped as town and i miskill him for it then i'm never going to get over it
but if he actually fucked up and we don't kill him for it then i'm never going to get over that either

So we have to read him on his other merits.

You were thinking pyxxy was town towards the end of the day. What changed?

ghug said i have merits, plural

[ghug]

this bona/pyxxy thing sucks

i really think he got trolled in scumchat
but if he just randomly derped as town and i miskill him for it then i'm never going to get over it
but if he actually fucked up and we don't kill him for it then i'm never going to get over that either

So we have to read him on his other merits.

You were thinking pyxxy was town towards the end of the day. What changed?

ghug said i have merits, plural

They might merit voting for you.

[Bonatogether]

So we have to read him on his other merits.

You were thinking pyxxy was town towards the end of the day. What changed?

ghug said i have merits, plural

They might merit voting for you.

ghug said i have merit

[President Eden]

this bona/pyxxy thing sucks

i really think he got trolled in scumchat
but if he just randomly derped as town and i miskill him for it then i'm never going to get over it
but if he actually fucked up and we don't kill him for it then i'm never going to get over that either

So we have to read him on his other merits.

You were thinking pyxxy was town towards the end of the day. What changed?

agree which is why i'm ignoring it, i just hate it

as for what changed - worc flipped

they aren't directly related, i'm not sure if i can sensibly articulate it without rambling. but the following all fit into my view of things:

- worc scum
- bozo town and being pushed as an easy miskill for behaving out of character
- several people probably just town (brain/Bunny/Chaqa chief among them, but i'd removed a couple others from the pool)
- you had not been removed from the pool and your pushes on me were stinky doodoo
- you had an against-the-grain read on pyx's catchup post that was cleanly explained by you being scum and knowing too much

worc being town blows that view up, obviously. so i'm backing up to what i'm actually confident in, and opening up theories that i closed off too quickly because they didn't fit my previous view of d1. you and pyx are included in that

[ghug]

this bona/pyxxy thing sucks

i really think he got trolled in scumchat
but if he just randomly derped as town and i miskill him for it then i'm never going to get over it
but if he actually fucked up and we don't kill him for it then i'm never going to get over that either

So we have to read him on his other merits.

You were thinking pyxxy was town towards the end of the day. What changed?

agree which is why i'm ignoring it, i just hate it

as for what changed - worc flipped

they aren't directly related, i'm not sure if i can sensibly articulate it without rambling. but the following all fit into my view of things:

- worc scum
- bozo town and being pushed as an easy miskill for behaving out of character
- several people probably just town (brain/Bunny/Chaqa chief among them, but i'd removed a couple others from the pool)
- you had not been removed from the pool and your pushes on me were stinky doodoo
- you had an against-the-grain read on pyx's catchup post that was cleanly explained by you being scum and knowing too much

worc being town blows that view up, obviously. so i'm backing up to what i'm actually confident in, and opening up theories that i closed off too quickly because they didn't fit my previous view of d1. you and pyx are included in that

Fair enough.

Except for the part where you agreed with my "against the grain" read until you decided you wanted to push me and needed a narrative. That's some bullshit.

[President Eden]

So we have to read him on his other merits.

You were thinking pyxxy was town towards the end of the day. What changed?

agree which is why i'm ignoring it, i just hate it

as for what changed - worc flipped

they aren't directly related, i'm not sure if i can sensibly articulate it without rambling. but the following all fit into my view of things:

- worc scum
- bozo town and being pushed as an easy miskill for behaving out of character
- several people probably just town (brain/Bunny/Chaqa chief among them, but i'd removed a couple others from the pool)
- you had not been removed from the pool and your pushes on me were stinky doodoo
- you had an against-the-grain read on pyx's catchup post that was cleanly explained by you being scum and knowing too much

worc being town blows that view up, obviously. so i'm backing up to what i'm actually confident in, and opening up theories that i closed off too quickly because they didn't fit my previous view of d1. you and pyx are included in that

Fair enough.

Except for the part where you agreed with my "against the grain" read until you decided you wanted to push me and needed a narrative. That's some bullshit.

i thought it was insightful. that doesn't mean it came from town. it's easy to reach smart conclusions when you know the answers

[Fluminator]

@Jamiet
You were suspicious of both worcej and bozo throughout the day it seems.

Why were constantly trying to get a 3rd wagon going on varying people when it was between those 2? Did you change your mind on them?

[ghug]

agree which is why i'm ignoring it, i just hate it

as for what changed - worc flipped

they aren't directly related, i'm not sure if i can sensibly articulate it without rambling. but the following all fit into my view of things:

- worc scum
- bozo town and being pushed as an easy miskill for behaving out of character
- several people probably just town (brain/Bunny/Chaqa chief among them, but i'd removed a couple others from the pool)
- you had not been removed from the pool and your pushes on me were stinky doodoo
- you had an against-the-grain read on pyx's catchup post that was cleanly explained by you being scum and knowing too much

worc being town blows that view up, obviously. so i'm backing up to what i'm actually confident in, and opening up theories that i closed off too quickly because they didn't fit my previous view of d1. you and pyx are included in that

Fair enough.

Except for the part where you agreed with my "against the grain" read until you decided you wanted to push me and needed a narrative. That's some bullshit.

i thought it was insightful. that doesn't mean it came from town. it's easy to reach smart conclusions when you know the answers

That doesn't mean it came from scum either though. You liked it under you wanted to push me and then you spun it into something else. That's confirmation bias at best and malicious at worst.

[Fluminator]

I still feel pretty good about brain, Bunny, Chaqa being town. Jamie’s EOD seems good if bozo is town and excellent if bozo is scum. I still feel bozo wasn’t especially scummy and that his wagon fit the profile of opportunistic miskill bait, but obviously the same could be said of worc, so I don’t know that it says much about the main proponents.

Don’t know what to make of ghug, he keeps sticking in my craw but I have to admit I don’t have great arguments for why. Flum’s EOD was opportunistic and uninvested, decent shot for scum there. And I’m starting to suspect pyx was just scum and I helped let him off without a good reason.

Bona, damo, rdr remain null to me for now

Didn't you originally agree with Jamiet I was looking desperate, not uninvested?

[Fluminator]

I honestly felt kinda good about that at the end.

A couple games ago you said this and you were scum and it tricked me. Weren't you voting bozo until almost near the end? What changed in the last minutes?

[President Eden]

Fair enough.

Except for the part where you agreed with my "against the grain" read until you decided you wanted to push me and needed a narrative. That's some bullshit.

i thought it was insightful. that doesn't mean it came from town. it's easy to reach smart conclusions when you know the answers

That doesn't mean it came from scum either though. You liked it under you wanted to push me and then you spun it into something else. That's confirmation bias at best and malicious at worst.

whatever dude stay mad lol

I changed my mind on it, I may change it again

I still feel pretty good about brain, Bunny, Chaqa being town. Jamie’s EOD seems good if bozo is town and excellent if bozo is scum. I still feel bozo wasn’t especially scummy and that his wagon fit the profile of opportunistic miskill bait, but obviously the same could be said of worc, so I don’t know that it says much about the main proponents.

Don’t know what to make of ghug, he keeps sticking in my craw but I have to admit I don’t have great arguments for why. Flum’s EOD was opportunistic and uninvested, decent shot for scum there. And I’m starting to suspect pyx was just scum and I helped let him off without a good reason.

Bona, damo, rdr remain null to me for now

Didn't you originally agree with Jamiet I was looking desperate, not uninvested?

why didn't you take 2 minutes to search the word "desperate" in my day 1 filter and find the exact answer to this question yourself?

I agreed with the underlying suspicion Jamie felt toward the way you were responding to the events around you leading up to EOD, but that I specifically didn't want to characterize it as desperate. Rather, invested in the wrong thing (producing answers that look reasonable instead of getting it right), and perhaps pressured a bit by you briefly becoming a wagon.

[ghug]

I honestly felt kinda good about that at the end.

A couple games ago you said this and you were scum and it tricked me. Weren't you voting bozo until almost near the end? What changed in the last minutes?

I liked the worcej wagon the whole time. I tend to get stressed about being wrong even when I've been pretty confident up until EoD, and that feeling went the other direction this time, so I was hopeful.

[ghug]

Ded thred

[bozotheclown]

Unfortunately it now seems likely more than one of the players who did not want to DK me was just trying to pocket me, seem "correct" when I was mis-killed, or both.