M1025 Game Thread

[pyxxy]

interessant

I wouldn’t put myself in that list actually! but I agree with brain and ghug certainly. I think bozo belongs there too.

wait you just took the top 4 posters you almost got me

*taps the sign*

oh my god he literally meant the people who are top 7 in posting right now

lmao

consider me bona with a degree, intellectually speaking

[pyxxy]

So your real argument is you like everyone so far which means scum are lowposting?

What's making the vibes good in your mind?

*gestures at the thread so far*

the vibes are good idk what to tell you

this is like hard scifi or when people ask where the Spark for mtg planeswalkers comes from

at some point you just gotta smack the physicists until they stop the nonsense and teach that quarks are the smallest unit of matter

If it's just a "things feel happy" thing, why does that have any bearing on alignments?

because I believe that it does

*taps the quarks*

you don't have to agree + you don't have to solve like I do, iz no problem

[Jamiet99uk]

So Pyxxy is it your hypothesis that there are likely to be two scum in the group of:

Worcej,
BunnyGo,
Rdrivera,
Fluminator,
Damo

?

[ghug]

*gestures at the thread so far*

the vibes are good idk what to tell you

this is like hard scifi or when people ask where the Spark for mtg planeswalkers comes from

at some point you just gotta smack the physicists until they stop the nonsense and teach that quarks are the smallest unit of matter

If it's just a "things feel happy" thing, why does that have any bearing on alignments?

because I believe that it does

*taps the quarks*

you don't have to agree + you don't have to solve like I do, iz no problem

But I do have to solve you.

[President Eden]

Does ghug/bozo not count?

Sort of? I don’t really think it’s out of either of your ranges.

It’s no Xcution/s&c or worcej/Bunny or me/brainbomb from last game

Hate to tell you but Bunny and X were both scum.

I don't disagree that it's within our ranges but it's certainly of note.

My point in referencing those conflicts wasn't that they were all among townies, but that they were protracted and invested enough to force the rest of the game to take notice and commit to positions. The gentleman's sparring between you and bozo doesn't demand the same attention

[Chaqa]

Which joke are you referring too Chaqa?

Me posting a complete list of all players for who I think can be a town asset.

[ghug]

Sort of? I don’t really think it’s out of either of your ranges.

It’s no Xcution/s&c or worcej/Bunny or me/brainbomb from last game

Hate to tell you but Bunny and X were both scum.

I don't disagree that it's within our ranges but it's certainly of note.

My point in referencing those conflicts wasn't that they were all among townies, but that they were protracted and invested enough to force the rest of the game to take notice and commit to positions. The gentleman's sparring between you and bozo doesn't demand the same attention

So you're saying we need people to fight before we can read anyone?

[ghug]

It just feels kind of reductive. You said yourself that we're ahead of where we usually are at this point.

[Chaqa]

easy catchup, nice, the vibes are good

very good, even. possibly great?

I wonder

Posting statistics (Day 1)
1 38 1025 5876 26.97 Jamiet99uk 00:12
2 32 704 3691 22.00 ghug 00:05
3 30 1190 6473 39.67 brainbomb 00:03
4 19 230 1246 12.11 bozotheclown 00:50
5 15 264 1446 17.60 President Eden 00:31
6 15 230 1196 15.33 Chaqa 00:10
7 12 256 1564 21.33 Bonatogether 01:24
8 6 118 618 19.67 pyxxy 00:03
9 3 35 188 11.67 damo666 00:14
10 2 371 2045 185.50 Foxcastle 05:28
11 2 39 201 19.50 Fluminator 01:30
12 1 8 43 8.00 BunnyGo 07:16

one in the top half, two in the bottom half?

oh important to note that rdr and worcej haven't posted yet, I guess, consider them in the bottom half too?

the vibes are just very good maybe I'm overreacting from past webdip games but it's just putting me in a good mood and it's making me down to power town again

##vote pyxxy

Scumpost used to help inform arbitrary scumreads for later

[Chaqa]

I dislike logic like this because players 1-7 are almost always going to be in the top half of posting.

..........okay that's fair

Well ok actually I only skimmed. Chaqa and bozo that high is a little odd but I think that's just early noise.

Sorry boys you’ve got manic Chaqa this game. I’m on that 7+ miles a day on the bike grind

[ghug]

..........okay that's fair

Well ok actually I only skimmed. Chaqa and bozo that high is a little odd but I think that's just early noise.

Sorry boys you’ve got manic Chaqa this game. I’m on that 7+ miles a day on the bike grind

Isn't that a really short bike ride?

[Chaqa]

Does the validity of his townreads or the accuracy of those townreads influence your read in any way?

Mostly no, because it’s more about his incentives as scum and the way he solves as town. Chaqa is open about the fact that he basically scumhunts by POE and doesn’t put much stock in more conventional means of hunting. Meanwhile when he’s scum he tends to coast and remain as noncommittal as possible about reads to keep his miskill options open. He can walk back a townread as scum if it’s inconvenient obviously, but that creates needless risk of exposure. So when he’s handing out townreads early that’s at least slightly town indicative to me.

On further reflection I guess he’s only handed out one “read” though not multiple. (I thought he was replying to someone else besides bozo here.)

I question how you could locktown someone based on this event sequence

-chaqa posts read list leaving eden off
-bozo quotes post and votes eden
-brainbomb questions bozo quoting said post
-bozo actually backs up the decision now saying he thinks chaqa could do that as a scum ploy being scum with eden
-chaqa returns to game thread- bozo is now voting ghug
-chaqa locks bozo in as town

It does not seem like any actual reason is there to justify townreading bozo based on that. I think it seems like he (bozo) did this because it looks like something he can pass off as a valid reason

It’s basically because I don’t think scum!bozo would be relaxed enough to make the kind of joke he did. It’s the little things that solve the game.

[ghug]

Mostly no, because it’s more about his incentives as scum and the way he solves as town. Chaqa is open about the fact that he basically scumhunts by POE and doesn’t put much stock in more conventional means of hunting. Meanwhile when he’s scum he tends to coast and remain as noncommittal as possible about reads to keep his miskill options open. He can walk back a townread as scum if it’s inconvenient obviously, but that creates needless risk of exposure. So when he’s handing out townreads early that’s at least slightly town indicative to me.

On further reflection I guess he’s only handed out one “read” though not multiple. (I thought he was replying to someone else besides bozo here.)

I question how you could locktown someone based on this event sequence

-chaqa posts read list leaving eden off
-bozo quotes post and votes eden
-brainbomb questions bozo quoting said post
-bozo actually backs up the decision now saying he thinks chaqa could do that as a scum ploy being scum with eden
-chaqa returns to game thread- bozo is now voting ghug
-chaqa locks bozo in as town

It does not seem like any actual reason is there to justify townreading bozo based on that. I think it seems like he (bozo) did this because it looks like something he can pass off as a valid reason

It’s basically because I don’t think scum!bozo would be relaxed enough to make the kind of joke he did. It’s the little things that solve the game.

Isn't scum bozo more jokey?

[Chaqa]

Well ok actually I only skimmed. Chaqa and bozo that high is a little odd but I think that's just early noise.

Sorry boys you’ve got manic Chaqa this game. I’m on that 7+ miles a day on the bike grind

Isn't that a really short bike ride?

It’s like an hour. I live near a bunch of trails that connect to the D&L trail system

[Chaqa]

I question how you could locktown someone based on this event sequence

-chaqa posts read list leaving eden off
-bozo quotes post and votes eden
-brainbomb questions bozo quoting said post
-bozo actually backs up the decision now saying he thinks chaqa could do that as a scum ploy being scum with eden
-chaqa returns to game thread- bozo is now voting ghug
-chaqa locks bozo in as town

It does not seem like any actual reason is there to justify townreading bozo based on that. I think it seems like he (bozo) did this because it looks like something he can pass off as a valid reason

It’s basically because I don’t think scum!bozo would be relaxed enough to make the kind of joke he did. It’s the little things that solve the game.

Isn't scum bozo more jokey?

Don’t ruin my dreams

[President Eden]

Hate to tell you but Bunny and X were both scum.

I don't disagree that it's within our ranges but it's certainly of note.

My point in referencing those conflicts wasn't that they were all among townies, but that they were protracted and invested enough to force the rest of the game to take notice and commit to positions. The gentleman's sparring between you and bozo doesn't demand the same attention

So you're saying we need people to fight before we can read anyone?

My initial comment was that there was a lack of conflict forcing people to take committal stances. That can be a fight, but it can be many other things—a goofy gimmick like not posting for 24 hours or self-voting, a roleclaim, etc. The most influential one is the vote to kill at EOD of course. Runaway wagons for no discernible reason work too.

I don’t think your and bozo’s discussion rises to that level.

You can read people without these flashpoints, but it’s more difficult and error-prone because absent something that creates competing incentives, it’s easier for scum to just say townie sounding things and coast.

[BunnyGo]

I actually think the vibes are a little too good, in that there’s not enough conflict to make people commit to real positions.

Far be it from me to be the fun police though

right

this is what I'm asking

maybe I'm just bad at solving (true) but I feel like the vibes can be a clue

last game: bad vibes, bunny PR hunted worcej (confirmed in scum chat post-game/post-death)

this game: good vibes, bordering on great, a good sprinkling of conflict but nothing vicious. maybe a better framing is it feels like we've maybe very quickly moved past RVS or at least opening posting into making connections and alignment content

almost wrote AI content but I honestly can't stand chatGPT posts and I will never interact with them -> not trying to summon them -> yes I know I'm writing all this

Why are you lying about me pyxxy? Why aren’t you obv towning pyxxy? This isn’t town pyxxy…town pyxxy is precise with facts and cares about figures. What’s the deal?

[BunnyGo]

Since I broke my bow of silence (damn you pyxxy)

@jamie: pecan pie. Pronounced “pee-CAN”

[ghug]

I actually think the vibes are a little too good, in that there’s not enough conflict to make people commit to real positions.

Far be it from me to be the fun police though

right

this is what I'm asking

maybe I'm just bad at solving (true) but I feel like the vibes can be a clue

last game: bad vibes, bunny PR hunted worcej (confirmed in scum chat post-game/post-death)

this game: good vibes, bordering on great, a good sprinkling of conflict but nothing vicious. maybe a better framing is it feels like we've maybe very quickly moved past RVS or at least opening posting into making connections and alignment content

almost wrote AI content but I honestly can't stand chatGPT posts and I will never interact with them -> not trying to summon them -> yes I know I'm writing all this

Why are you lying about me pyxxy? Why aren’t you obv towning pyxxy? This isn’t town pyxxy…town pyxxy is precise with facts and cares about figures. What’s the deal?

What's the lie?

[ghug]

Since I broke my bow of silence (damn you pyxxy)

@jamie: pecan pie. Pronounced “pee-CAN”

##VOTE Bunny