M80 Game Thread

[damo666]

Neither Bunny nor Jamie seem to be defending themselves.

[sweetandcool]

I think if ghug, Haze and worcej do not comment on my proposal I will have to return to ghug

I believe Haze agreed to it Here

I don't see why ghug would be against it regardless of alignment.

We still need to hear from worcej.

[BunnyGo]

I think we should vote Jamie today and if he flips town vote ghug tomorrow.

If Jamie flips scum then Bunny 2m.

I'm just responding to Sweetandcool's performative nonsense.

Your pool is me, Ghug, Bungo?

Everyone else is clear in your eyes now?

I don't think ghug is scum but we can't leave him alive if we keep flipping town.

rdr is a possible, I think the rest are town

Rdr concerns me. Last game I couldn’t even catch him with a pr scan on him because they timed the driver.

Brain is making sense.

Sweet looks like panicking 1st time scum. My idea of him being a logical parent of young kids would fit here well. Easy to seem good when unpressed.

Jamiet hard to read.

Rdr exceptionally hard to read

Dousing is showing up exactly when mentioned? Is it that simple?

Am I missing something with dousing?

##vote dousing

[BunnyGo]

Neither Bunny nor Jamie seem to be defending themselves.

I rarely do with any alignment unless asked to

[BunnyGo]

Neither Bunny nor Jamie seem to be defending themselves.

I rarely do with any alignment unless asked to

I’d rather hunt and listen

[sweetandcool]

I'm just responding to Sweetandcool's performative nonsense.

Your pool is me, Ghug, Bungo?

Everyone else is clear in your eyes now?

I don't think ghug is scum but we can't leave him alive if we keep flipping town.

rdr is a possible, I think the rest are town

Rdr concerns me. Last game I couldn’t even catch him with a pr scan on him because they timed the driver.

Brain is making sense.

Sweet looks like panicking 1st time scum. My idea of him being a logical parent of young kids would fit here well. Easy to seem good when unpressed.

Jamiet hard to read.

Rdr exceptionally hard to read

Dousing is showing up exactly when mentioned? Is it that simple?

Am I missing something with dousing?

##vote dousing

Haha, I direct you to M79, starting here where I attempt to make a short-lived performance of freaking out, before descending into true panic: http://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/ ... 53#p337853

[ghug]

beleive it or not I actually think the scumteam is sweet with dousing.

I can see how ghug would be town here based on the reasons sweet gave, because sweet knows what really happened.

and this is what I think actually happened.

The scumteam of fox, sweet, dousing and xcution had a discussion about alot of things. namely which PRs were real. They determined that best play was to jail brainbomb and then, because of overall newness some things went downhill.

Firstly, xcution was chosen to jail me
but as we saw at EOD1, xcution had some technical issues with phases, and never showed back up to change the jail on me over to Eden.

Mafia team was never sure if worcej was really a PR in the first place, and wanted there to be suspicion on it, so they figured worcej probably was not suspecting any of them and they just decided there was nothing they can do.

So it was not that one command wasnt put it, it was that xcution had some technical issues and absence after submitting a jail on me and was never able to move it.

Secondly, the mafia team chose that rather than focus on powers they would focus on bussing, HELLbussing to be specific. leaving dousing and sweet to both appear as clears upon xcutions death.

They were curious N2 about what was going on with Haze and ghug, so they sent in X to see what he could find, and saw Haze visit ghug that night.

Scumteam: dousing, sweet, foxcastle, xcution is not inexperienced, they just had one technical hangup, and one moment where they did not fully beleive wor.

cejs claim, or that worcej was a threat to any of them

This is plausible mechanically just as the N1 RB=ghug scum theory is, but I see nothing else pointing to sweet as scum, and I don't see much reason to pair Dousing either beyond that it fits with a bussing strategy.

I was initially inclined to scumread people defending me because it was an easy case of being right too easily, but sweet's progression on me feels really organic and the way he's gone ham on defending me feels like overexcited town to me.

[ghug]

PROPOSAL

Let's give ghug the benefit of the doubt and him and the 3 townclears vote for a kill target. People must vote for the majority target or be considered scum. In the event of a tie ghug's vote ignored.

If successful repeat tomorrow with survivors of the four.

Following a failure we kill ghug.

@Worcej @ Haze what do you think?

@ghug deal?

This is a terrible idea. We're already low on vote info after two obvious days. Not letting the unclears vote won't help us solve them later.

[damo666]

Neither Bunny nor Jamie seem to be defending themselves.

I rarely do with any alignment unless asked to

I'm asking you to.

[damo666]

PROPOSAL

Let's give ghug the benefit of the doubt and him and the 3 townclears vote for a kill target. People must vote for the majority target or be considered scum. In the event of a tie ghug's vote ignored.

If successful repeat tomorrow with survivors of the four.

Following a failure we kill ghug.

@Worcej @ Haze what do you think?

@ghug deal?

This is a terrible idea. We're already low on vote info after two obvious days. Not letting the unclears vote won't help us solve them later.

OK Consider it untabled

[ghug]

So pretty much all I"m getting from town is either disbelief or very tepid "Well, I'm still voting for ghug, but your argument is slightly unsettling".

How about we ##VOTE sweetandcool because I don't think I'm going to be useful to town after this day. I don't seem capable of helping, despite working really hard to get things right. At the very least, you all won't have to deal with my long and frequent posting. One less thread to scour through for clues.

Voting me at least makes more sense than voting ghug.

Dude...

[BunnyGo]

I don't think ghug is scum but we can't leave him alive if we keep flipping town.

rdr is a possible, I think the rest are town

Rdr concerns me. Last game I couldn’t even catch him with a pr scan on him because they timed the driver.

Brain is making sense.

Sweet looks like panicking 1st time scum. My idea of him being a logical parent of young kids would fit here well. Easy to seem good when unpressed.

Jamiet hard to read.

Rdr exceptionally hard to read

Dousing is showing up exactly when mentioned? Is it that simple?

Am I missing something with dousing?

##vote dousing

Haha, I direct you to M79, starting here where I attempt to make a short-lived performance of freaking out, before descending into true panic: http://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/ ... 53#p337853

That’s not it.

And now my kid is taking my phone.

##vote sweet

Might be back

[sweetandcool]

Rdr concerns me. Last game I couldn’t even catch him with a pr scan on him because they timed the driver.

Brain is making sense.

Sweet looks like panicking 1st time scum. My idea of him being a logical parent of young kids would fit here well. Easy to seem good when unpressed.

Jamiet hard to read.

Rdr exceptionally hard to read

Dousing is showing up exactly when mentioned? Is it that simple?

Am I missing something with dousing?

##vote dousing

Haha, I direct you to M79, starting here where I attempt to make a short-lived performance of freaking out, before descending into true panic: http://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/ ... 53#p337853

That’s not it.

And now my kid is taking my phone.

##vote sweet

Might be back

Tell your kid to make a better vote.

[damo666]

@Haze you won't vote Jamie and I won't vote sweet.

Would you like to vote Bunny or shall we just get rid of ghug?

Mind you his rejection of my proposal is very towny.

[damo666]

##vote Bunny

[sweetandcool]

@Haze you won't vote Jamie and I won't vote sweet.

Would you like to vote Bunny or shall we just get rid of ghug?

Mind you his rejection of my proposal is very towny.

I'm even starting to think Bunny is more likely town.

But hell, my reads suck. The only thing I know for a fact is ghug is town. And Jamiet is the most suspicious, in my opinion, and it's the only other read I have some degree of confidence in.

[ghug]

Too late. If you are bothered by it, then you can vote for me.

Current town thinking is so out of whack from reality, I don't think I could possibly be anything but Mafia.

I do like your plan by the way, and will go with it, if the PRs get their act together and decide on a target.

you dont feel scummy to me, but this action I feel is more common of an enemy action than a town/pirate action. probably because it is easier to feel hopeless as royalist or scum than it is as the town.

Meh. This will be the 2nd game in a row where the truth is obvious to me and town buries their collective heads in the sand.

1. Convincing is a skill you'll need to cultivate.
2. Eventually you'll be wrong and then you'll go full nihilism.
3. I think you have moved a couple people.

[ghug]

I think I'm at
Jamie
Dousing=Kak
Bunny
-----------
Rd
Brain
Sweet

With at least one from the bottom pool unless Dousing is scum, since he hasn't been here.

how would you determine if they are scum?

They who?

[sweetandcool]

you dont feel scummy to me, but this action I feel is more common of an enemy action than a town/pirate action. probably because it is easier to feel hopeless as royalist or scum than it is as the town.

Meh. This will be the 2nd game in a row where the truth is obvious to me and town buries their collective heads in the sand.

1. Convincing is a skill you'll need to cultivate.
2. Eventually you'll be wrong and then you'll go full nihilism.
3. I think you have moved a couple people.

I agree on all accounts here.

It's just that the people I have moved don't actually seem convinced and I'm stressed it is just not enough.

[ghug]

Brain, again, X was the tracker and he visited Haze.

what point are you trying to make? because this post and the otehr one seem to imply that you know x's action and this would only be possible if you are their pal

Brain was requesting that X role copped you and another mafia had done a track, which is impossible.