M80 Game Thread

[brainbomb]

also sweet you dont have to do what I requested.

instead help us find the real scum

[worcej]

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I will wait to hear from the clearboys on how they interpret this.

Sweet is trying so hard to clear us off ghug and not really onto anyone else that I am more curious as to why he is so adamantly sure ghug is town.

So either I'm right or I'm scumteam with ghug giving you an easy lead on me.

I'm trying to find a new suspect ):

I don't see you finding a suspect though - you're just arguing that ghug is town.

[sweetandcool]

Sweet is trying so hard to clear us off ghug and not really onto anyone else that I am more curious as to why he is so adamantly sure ghug is town.

So either I'm right or I'm scumteam with ghug giving you an easy lead on me.

I'm trying to find a new suspect ):

I don't see you finding a suspect though - you're just arguing that ghug is town.

I'm just going to ignore this. You should be ashamed.

[ghug]

Ghug

M78 I accurately scumread you.

Before that for a large swath of games I townread you early and often. Some of the games we were mafia together.

This is not a habitual disease I have. There was a time like 6 years ago where I always scumread you every game but that is not the case any longer. I am not driven by any need to challenge you. I do not have a personal bias either as far as what I expect from you.

this game I just havent felt you were town.

No, I'm not being all "ugh brain always townreads me". I'm saying I've seen you acknowledge that I'm tricky and good with words, so towny seeming posts are a less effective way to read me than the agenda I'm pushing.

Telling someone to find townie posts is going to predispose you towards disliking what they come back with.

[ghug]

I don't know why but I have a real problem with swapping the words town and scum arbitrarily. Hopefully meaning is clear. I'm drinking at an airport, if anyone would like to take advantage of tipsiness.

[ghug]

So either I'm right or I'm scumteam with ghug giving you an easy lead on me.

I'm trying to find a new suspect ):

I don't see you finding a suspect though - you're just arguing that ghug is town.

I'm just going to ignore this. You should be ashamed.

Worcej in a nutshell lol

[worcej]

I don't see you finding a suspect though - you're just arguing that ghug is town.

I'm just going to ignore this. You should be ashamed.

Worcej in a nutshell lol

Meh, catchup he was too busy gushing about you.

ghug, humor me: in more than 30 words, why was I not jailed N1?

[brainbomb]

Ghug

M78 I accurately scumread you.

Before that for a large swath of games I townread you early and often. Some of the games we were mafia together.

This is not a habitual disease I have. There was a time like 6 years ago where I always scumread you every game but that is not the case any longer. I am not driven by any need to challenge you. I do not have a personal bias either as far as what I expect from you.

this game I just havent felt you were town.

No, I'm not being all "ugh brain always townreads me". I'm saying I've seen you acknowledge that I'm tricky and good with words, so towny seeming posts are a less effective way to read me than the agenda I'm pushing.

Telling someone to find townie posts is going to predispose you towards disliking what they come back with.

I could respond to this in alot of ways. But I would expect anyone to ask me to explain why I townread someone. Im not sure I could pass as authentic without at least showing I have a reason beyond mech stuff

[brainbomb]

I already said im much more interested in who they scumread than why they townread you now so consider this dialogue closed or suspended

[ghug]

I'm just going to ignore this. You should be ashamed.

Worcej in a nutshell lol

Meh, catchup he was too busy gushing about you.

ghug, humor me: in more than 30 words, why was I not jailed N1?

Scum dumb scum dumb scum dumb scum dumb scum dumb scum dumb
dumb scum dumb scum dumb scum dumb scum dumb scum
scum dumb scum dumb scum dumb scum dumb scum dumb

[brainbomb]

sure so who are too stupid to deserve to live candidates

weve got Jeff Kuta
weve got chipeerock
weve got Brankl
weve got -

Oh you meant the dumb scum in this game.

so yea who are those?

[ghug]

In seriousness, my best bet is either that they weren't that worried about one time investigative actions, either because odds are low in general or because Fox was using a non-visiting action and they were ninjaing or having whoever jailed brain kill, or they figured you'd either be commuting if you were the navigator or jailed by the navigator if you weren't.

The brain jailing is baffling to me, though. I don't know how you don't know Eden's the real PR there unless nobody's online for the last several hours. I'm also not particularly inclined to leave PRs alive ever and am more than happy to lose an early NK trying, which I think you should remember from that game where we were the last two scum.

[ghug]

sure so who are too stupid to deserve to live candidates

weve got Jeff Kuta
weve got chipeerock
weve got Brankl
weve got -

Oh you meant the dumb scum in this game.

so yea who are those?

No love for Alextreme?

[brainbomb]

sure so who are too stupid to deserve to live candidates

weve got Jeff Kuta
weve got chipeerock
weve got Brankl
weve got -

Oh you meant the dumb scum in this game.

so yea who are those?

No love for Alextreme?

Johnny Big Horse baby

[ghug]

Or phil_a_s? tvrocks? bo_sox48?

[brainbomb]

ok ill bite

Jamie wouldnt jail me and would be against doing so unless he didnt see the retract by eden. in which case Jamie motive for jailing me is he knows I cant help myself but claim any bit of info I get in a mafia game and the goal was to jail me so people would tinfoil that I faked it.
But otherwise I have zero explanation for how Scum Jamie could assume that none of worcej/me/eden were real.

kakarroto maybe would play it this way. he seems to think that with two scum alive we should hunt the suicide bomber which doesnt make any sense because why would scum be planning to suicide any of their own if it means losing one

bunny is probably alot better than to do something like letting that many pr potentials alive and not even jailing worcej at all.

dousing could do this out of inexperience

sweet could potentially do this out of inexperience

but keep in mind any assetions scum was dumb is a pathetic jumping point anyway. because xcution has ten years of exp and fox is not a fool. this seems like a conscious misunderstanding of use of powers and of reading priority targets.

[sweetandcool]

Got Chinese and my fortune cookie was: "The respect of influential people will soon be yours".

I can do this (:

[worcej]

In seriousness, my best bet is either that they weren't that worried about one time investigative actions, either because odds are low in general or because Fox was using a non-visiting action and they were ninjaing or having whoever jailed brain kill, or they figured you'd either be commuting if you were the navigator or jailed by the navigator if you weren't.

The brain jailing is baffling to me, though. I don't know how you don't know Eden's the real PR there unless nobody's online for the last several hours. I'm also not particularly inclined to leave PRs alive ever and am more than happy to lose an early NK trying, which I think you should remember from that game where we were the last two scum.

I agree with the last paragraph except I know you think low of my ability and would entertain the option of not using anything on me.

[ghug]

ok ill bite

Jamie wouldnt jail me and would be against doing so unless he didnt see the retract by eden. in which case Jamie motive for jailing me is he knows I cant help myself but claim any bit of info I get in a mafia game and the goal was to jail me so people would tinfoil that I faked it.
But otherwise I have zero explanation for how Scum Jamie could assume that none of worcej/me/eden were real.

kakarroto maybe would play it this way. he seems to think that with two scum alive we should hunt the suicide bomber which doesnt make any sense because why would scum be planning to suicide any of their own if it means losing one

bunny is probably alot better than to do something like letting that many pr potentials alive and not even jailing worcej at all.

dousing could do this out of inexperience

sweet could potentially do this out of inexperience

but keep in mind any assetions scum was dumb is a pathetic jumping point anyway. because xcution has ten years of exp and fox is not a fool. this seems like a conscious misunderstanding of use of powers and of reading priority targets.

Ok but if you're going to give me scum equity for being roleblocked you also have to give me town equity for getting the jail wrong. Realistically I think it's likely whoever did the jailing wasn't around for EoN, but it definitely limits the number of worlds where I'm scum somewhat.

[ghug]

In seriousness, my best bet is either that they weren't that worried about one time investigative actions, either because odds are low in general or because Fox was using a non-visiting action and they were ninjaing or having whoever jailed brain kill, or they figured you'd either be commuting if you were the navigator or jailed by the navigator if you weren't.

The brain jailing is baffling to me, though. I don't know how you don't know Eden's the real PR there unless nobody's online for the last several hours. I'm also not particularly inclined to leave PRs alive ever and am more than happy to lose an early NK trying, which I think you should remember from that game where we were the last two scum.

I agree with the last paragraph except I know you think low of my ability and would entertain the option of not using anything on me.

You don't have to have good reads to harm scum with a scan or a shot, you just have to get lucky.