M80 Game Thread

[sweetandcool]

Okay, I want to get mechs straight so there is one place with all claims in it:

N1
1. Brain jailed N1 (unverified)
2. Propagandist Fox shortened day.
3. Navigator worcej scans Fox.
4. Captain Haze rb ghug.

N2
1. Enforcer Strongman Quartermaster Eden.
2. Priest damo tracks Spy Xcution to Haze.

N3
1. Haze shoots VT Bona.
2. worcej commutes damo.
3. damo Doctor worcej.
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Now, please correct me if I got anything wrong, or forgot anything. Of course there might be a couple things that Town has done that hasn't been reported. Feel free to keep that information to yourself if you think it's better that way.

Wait, do we know those N3 actions??

worcej claimed them. But technically worcej is speculating that damo protected them. Sorry, I should have added an unverified tag to them.

[sweetandcool]

Okay, I want to get mechs straight so there is one place with all claims in it:

N1
1. Brain jailed N1 (unverified)
2. Propagandist Fox shortened day.
3. Navigator worcej scans Fox.
4. Captain Haze rb ghug.

N2
1. Enforcer Strongman Quartermaster Eden.
2. Priest damo tracks Spy Xcution to Haze.
3. worcej jails President Eden.

N3
1. Haze shoots VT Bona.
2. worcej commutes damo.
3. damo Doctor worcej. (unverified).
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Now, please correct me if I got anything wrong, or forgot anything. Of course there might be a couple things that Town has done that hasn't been reported. Feel free to keep that information to yourself if you think it's better that way.

[ghug]

You know what - I do see a world where Haze did actually RB ghug who was the one that was supposed to jail me...

##vote ghug

Mechanics may be the root cause of scum getting annihilated this game.

Yes lol that's the argument.

There's also a world where that didn't happen though.

ghug, I just want it here in writing, so I'll ask you now:

Do you acknowledge that the fact that N1 seemed like Mafia was missing an action, and that you were rb by Haze looks suspicious enough that you pretty much ought to be the top wagon?

Regardless, I will acknowledge that it is of course possible that it was a coincidence and that you are innocent.

Yes, I 100% get it, and even brought it up N2 when I realized it. I'm not even mad if y'all decide to kill me as long as there's some critical thought going into it (see rd). All I'm asking from y'all is to a) look at my play and the subsequent mafia actions and think about whether everything else fits with that story and b) not just autokill me today without a competitive vote, because that won't serve us well once I'm gone.

[sweetandcool]

Oh yeah, I'd like an acknowledgement from worcej, damo and Haze that the list is correct, as far as things we know and have been claimed.

[ghug]

Oh yeah, I'd like an acknowledgement from worcej, damo and Haze that the list is correct, as far as things we know and have been claimed.

Damo should not be telling us what he did last night unless he knows he saved someone.

[sweetandcool]

Oh yeah, I'd like an acknowledgement from worcej, damo and Haze that the list is correct, as far as things we know and have been claimed.

Damo should not be telling us what he did last night unless he knows he saved someone.

I thought I made it clear that I wasn't asking for any information that they might not want to give

I just wanted all action claims in one place. That being said, I'm realizing the last entry shouldn't be there since it is just worcej speculation. I will wait until I hear from at least one PR before I "edit" the list.

[rdrivera2005]

##vote Ghug by the way.

I mind this less with brain because he already scumread me but if you're town you're playing like garbage and you're being so lazy about the whole thing. You hadn't put any real critical thought into why scum had had the weird N1 before this fell into your lap, and you don't even want to try to have a real day?

The point is: could we have a real day? You weren't my top scumread, that's for sure and I still think you have a chance to be town but you will be a wagon every day unless we catch two scum and win. Do you want to be around at end game? I won't on your place. I respect you won't just give up but yo

This said, I have been lazy, that's true and I won't deny, I didn't gave much thought about the mechanics because there is so many combinations of actions that I didn't want to go down this rabbit hole.

Talking about rabbit, I still think Bunny have a good chance to flip scum. More then Kak. I have been scum with Kak not many time ago and I don't see the same scum behavior.

[brainbomb]

Rereading Bunny.

[brainbomb]

Ghug being town theory
If ghug is town it means mafia did not jail worcej. Which means mafia just did not think worcej was the cop role, and they were not overly worried about how worcej would use powers. or they had an idea of who worcej would use the cop on, and chose to drive that target instead.

[brainbomb]

So are we clearing pyx for thinking there was day chat or did he fake it or is there actually day chat?

I know I said im rereading Bunny but I found this and I think this makes sense as why scum killed pyxxy was that they decided pyx had towncleared themself with the daychat snafu

[damo666]

I also feel like scum ghug kills Haze N2 to hide the RB once he's made it clear he's the Captain, but I'm not sure if others will see it that way.

When did scum!ghug know HaZe had done it?

Huh?

When Haze roleblocked him, obv.

Haze roleblocking Ghug doesn't actually prove anything about Ghug's alignment by itself.

Scum!Ghug would get a "you were roleblocked" PM just the same as Town!Ghug would get.

So how would he know it was Haze?

[brainbomb]

When did scum!ghug know HaZe had done it?

Huh?

When Haze roleblocked him, obv.

Haze roleblocking Ghug doesn't actually prove anything about Ghug's alignment by itself.

Scum!Ghug would get a "you were roleblocked" PM just the same as Town!Ghug would get.

So how would he know it was Haze?

Based on these posts by Haze,
I think the implication was he signalled ghug during N2
viewtopic.php?p=344041&sid=a05b3b842550 ... a2#p344041

[Haze with a Z]

morning yall.

pg 28 for self

[Haze with a Z]

My answer was one of confusion as this is a new player ive dealt with before and im stuck with pondering if this new player open wolfs- if I wanna go down this road and be that guy because it is something that used to trigger me but mostly open wolfing is usually townies saying dumb stuff. So I didnt push it at all

I'm def the person that will typically call it wolfy unless I am a wolf tbh.

[Haze with a Z]

I must have done something right if ghug is outed mechanically although I am kinda lost on the full thing of how.

[Haze with a Z]

I know if you survive the day you would
not hesistate to suicide bomb damo so its far too much of a liability to take anything youre saying seriously

I knew this was coming, though. Haze was making it very clear he was going to claim. Why wouldn't I have suicide bombed last night?

why would you try to claim my role then? Because I think the only reason I was even going to claim was to stop myself from getting voted out. And you claiming stuff makes it seem even more likely that your goal was to get me voted out and then you possibly decided it wouldn't work or something.

[Haze with a Z]

The Ballad of Kaka (part 1: Day 1)
<lots of talking>

I kinda thought this was like a book or something that you were reading tbh.
hahaha
will read the post now though

[Haze with a Z]

So we know spy visited Haze N2. Any speculation on what they did? If role cop, then Haze was outed coming into D3.

I don't know. I was worried it was cop though tbh. I don't think it matters as much. I just know it wasn't jailing me.

[Haze with a Z]

Oh yeah, I'd like an acknowledgement from worcej, damo and Haze that the list is correct, as far as things we know and have been claimed.

confirming.

also it does seem like ghuggy is more speculatiion than full on mech even if i still do worry and sus them

[rdrivera2005]

Ghug being town theory
If ghug is town it means mafia did not jail worcej. Which means mafia just did not think worcej was the cop role, and they were not overly worried about how worcej would use powers. or they had an idea of who worcej would use the cop on, and chose to drive that target instead.

Exactly. Either Ghug was the one responsible for Jailing Worcej or scum just didn't worry with a town PR using his powers or a scum just screwed big time.
Considering at least Fox is scum and a good player it's hard to see the second option. Third still possible.