M80 Game Thread

[damo666]

Roleblock deniers rdr and Bona are therefore either

town

or

scumpartner of the roleblockee who couldn't jail worcej

or

there was no successful RB of a jailer N1

or

RB unused

Not much further forward

[brainbomb]

Im trying to follow what youre saying and obviously you know what youre thinking here. I think a POE of bona-rdr-ghug-Jamie-Bunny makes alot of sense

its too big and theres 3 town in there so how they read each other is going to matter

[BunnyGo]

I'm now reasonably confident the two remaining scum are in {Haze, Bona, Bunny, rdr}

Why are you clearing jimmit and beancomb?

J because him pushing me re saying Haze was townclear. Mind you scum Jamie might do that if Haze is town. At the very least Jamie and Haze almost certainly not the remaining scumpair. I basically however get a town feel from the way Jamie responded to the whole Xcution business.

Wet brain I believe his jail claim and the RB/jail confusion unlikely to come from scum brain.

And why clear ghug? Good feels?

[BunnyGo]

Just realised Captain may have RBd Xcution N1 so no need to speak. This slightly lessens the chance Haze is scum as N2 might then be a straightforward rolecop.

If Captain did RB Haze N1 I think it almost imperative they tell us.

If Captain RBd Bona Bunny or rdr I advise them to strongly consider revealing.

Otherwise I suggest keeping shtum.

We got this town!

i've never been roleblocked or similar

Didn’t ghug reasonably say to NOT claim stuff about this?

[BunnyGo]

Roleblock deniers rdr and Bona are therefore either

town

or

scumpartner of the roleblockee who couldn't jail worcej

or

there was no successful RB of a jailer N1

or

RB unused

Not much further forward

Never mind. We get it. Please stop.

[damo666]

Roleblock deniers rdr and Bona are therefore either

town

or

scumpartner of the roleblockee who couldn't jail worcej

or

there was no successful RB of a jailer N1

or

RB unused

Not much further forward

Never mind. We get it. Please stop.

I didn't ask people to claim if they were roleblocked or not did I?

[Jamiet99uk]

I haven't talked about it until now but I was roleblocked during Game Start, and again halfway through D2.

[damo666]

Why are you clearing jimmit and beancomb?

J because him pushing me re saying Haze was townclear. Mind you scum Jamie might do that if Haze is town. At the very least Jamie and Haze almost certainly not the remaining scumpair. I basically however get a town feel from the way Jamie responded to the whole Xcution business.

Wet brain I believe his jail claim and the RB/jail confusion unlikely to come from scum brain.

And why clear ghug? Good feels?

He gave me indicators of understanding.

And to be clear he isn't [clear].

Only worcej and me are clear.

[brainbomb]

##Vote Ghug because town Ghug always votes me D1 and I'm offended he voted someone else.

Do you actually think that Bona is seriously wolf reading you? I felt like they called your entrance scummy as a joke and you're trying to triple down on them. If you want to pressure them, why make a throwaway vote on ghug?

I don't think Bona is serious about very much on D1 but his evasiveness does bother me.

Joke voting early on D1 when we have very little information is commonplace in this particular pirate community.

This interaction seems to not come off as wolf theatre. At least not that bona-jamie-xcution would all be scum here.

[brainbomb]

absolutely no one has convinced me that kakarrotto is town and if someone actually can change my mind on that I will sheep them for the remainder of the game

So

If Kak is scum, and one of his scumbuddies persuades you he's actually a pirate, you'll sheep that person?

Odd strategy.

And Jamie pointing out a flaw in my logic, rather than trying to persuade me kak is town is interesting. I see alot of these nothing-burger comments by Jamie throughout where he doesnt take a stance but instead puts the player he is speaking too into some logic conundrum that is tedious at best.

[brainbomb]

Scum chat will be happy to know that I've successfully distanced from Sweet without making us look like partners.

Is this a scumclaim?

Is this a serious question?

Jamie why did you ignore this?
there was no reply to this question and no follow up by xcution either.

The next interaction between you both is this:

Actually, now that you are getting me thinking about it, this is totally something scum sweetandcool would consider doing. So you'd probably be on the right track if I was Mafia.

But since I didn't think of it, I am not scum sweetandcool and consequently proved myself as towncore.

Heh, heh, I'm glad everyone else will come to the same conclusion, right?

You appear to be very fixated on people's perceptions of you.

I think this leads credence to Sweet playing a nervous game. I don't like that they tried to say they play nervous as either alignment and that would Sweet would act a certain way, when this is only their second game? I just don't understand how you can harp on your 'newness' but then try to make claims such as these.

[Dousing]

Is this a scumclaim?

Is this a serious question?

Jamie why did you ignore this?
there was no reply to this question and no follow up by xcution either.

I mean what’s there to talk about?

[Dousing]

absolutely no one has convinced me that kakarrotto is town and if someone actually can change my mind on that I will sheep them for the remainder of the game

So

If Kak is scum, and one of his scumbuddies persuades you he's actually a pirate, you'll sheep that person?

Odd strategy.

And Jamie pointing out a flaw in my logic, rather than trying to persuade me kak is town is interesting. I see alot of these nothing-burger comments by Jamie throughout where he doesnt take a stance but instead puts the player he is speaking too into some logic conundrum that is tedious at best.

Interesting comment, maybe it’ll be worthwhile to look into Jamie.

From my pov I didn’t notice a *huge* change from Jamie last game to Jamie this game. But I could be wrong


100% Jamie and Haze are not a scumpair though

[Dousing]

I haven't talked about it until now but I was roleblocked during Game Start, and again halfway through D2.

How does one get roleblocked halfway through D2?

[Dousing]

I think a POE of bona-rdr-ghug-Jamie-Bunny makes alot of sense

In that order?

[Dousing]

Ehh I actually found X's case fairly convincing at the end.

There wasn't anything ~incriminating~ about him just a lot of waffle.

His unvote was probably the most suspicious thing he did and that + a few other things would've justified flipping him even if he turned out townie though.

Just all in all I think flipping X as scum was fairly dependent on luck

I feel like I read correctly that he chose a D1 tunnel because he thought it would look town. And I was the glorious winner of the crazy tunnel. Reminds me of last game, in a way.

Glorious winner in the sense that I won the random lottery of being chosen for the tunnel. Didn't mean to sound triumphant, but it is nice to see them flip Mafia. I don't think I'm very good at this game.

Part of me wonders if anyone here is actually good at the game.


Like there’s a slight chance that 80% of our analysis’s are essentially pseudoscience and we’re just using confirmation bias to enjoy a glorified gambling addiction.

[brainbomb]

President Eden's mischaracterisation of Brainbomb "shitting on" other people is quite odd.

He seems off this game.

I'm going to call this post wolfy because you already tried to explain how you saying 'someone is off' was meant as a joke, but now I feel like you're purposely trying to make sure everyone thinks you were joking. I'm not sure what your motivation with these type of posts are.

I think my intial scumread on Jamie is no longer applicable. and I am
moving Jamie over to town column

Can you explain this progression? Because I still don't know what Jamie is saying this game and I'm not really buying what he's saying as logical thought processes.

Ask me questions if you have them, I am right here.

What illogical things have I said?

President Eden's mischaracterisation of Brainbomb "shitting on" other people is quite odd.

He seems off this game.

I'm going to call this post wolfy because you already tried to explain how you saying 'someone is off' was meant as a joke, but now I feel like you're purposely trying to make sure everyone thinks you were joking. I'm not sure what your motivation with these type of posts are.

You seem off this game.

Can you explain this progression? Because I still don't know what Jamie is saying this game and I'm not really buying what he's saying as logical thought processes.

Ask me questions if you have them, I am right here.

What illogical things have I said?

My dude, I've been dropping your name all game and you're finally responding to me; I was waiting to see how long it would take until you felt comfortable enough stepping into the ring with me.

I mean, I've literally called out specific posts and even quoted a post of yours and called it wolfy. Why are you only choosing to respond to me of me questioning another player?

I just feel like you haven't been genuine with your posts. I feel you're trying to toe the line between jokes and seriousness in a weird way and you're purposely making it hard to get a grasp on your thoughts and reads. I'm not even sure who you're trying to push right now and why.

How come I'm on your do not kill list? Also, I have opposite vibes right now on Jamie and Damo. I still think there is something disingenuous about the way Jaime is posting. I thought that Damo's catchup had some decent takes and I didn't think he was just posting to feel like he needed to catch up with things and appear active. What are you seeing that I'm not?

I asked you if you have any questions for me.

You ignore me when I directly address you, yet you continue to throw shade on me.

Dislike.

Okay, I'm not sure if this is just a site thing, but why are people demanding questions yet don't feel like ever giving reasons for what they say? Jamie, I've literally been commenting on your slot this entire game, and you finally chose to engage me halfway through D1. I think it's incredibly disingenuous to come out and say that I've been ignoring you when I've literally been transparent with my thoughts on your slot. I'd have to iso you and look through specific points in order to pull out my exact issues, but like I don't think you're trying to play in a way that is flirting with the line between serious and joking so that you can conveniently jump back and forth and when someone calls you out, you can say 'jkjkjkjk'. I'm having a hard time trying to follow your thought progression and see your thinking in a linear way. Perhaps I'm doing a disservice by not having specific posts of yours to show and comment on (though I have quoted you numerous times saying I don't like certain posts), but I also don't have QUESTIONS, I have ISSUES. So I'm not trying to interview you here right now, I'm trying to get a response from you and trying to understand and see where you are coming from. However, all you can say is 'wHeRe ArE tHe QuEsTiOnS'.

@Everyone:

Does Ghug's lack of investment, his laissez-faire attitude, bother you, at all?

Yeah I'm a little worried about my pals ghug and Haze. I'm not big on meta, but in Champs ghug was a man of few words, but I felt a hard hitting and analytical logic to his posts. Haze was a bit everywhere with their posts and was a leading poster, but someone that had a big presence. Both these things are missing from this game. It's only my second game with them so I do take this with a grain of salt, but it's something to start on. I guess considering ghug was the rep for Champs here, I was expecting a bit more on his home site. Haze I feel has kind of been in the background. But that could just be because they're on a new site (though this is a new site for me and I am trying to make some waves). So I'm definitely hoping for a bit more from their slots, but I'm not ready to condemn them quite yet, but I am watchful.

Other notable lines:

Jamie probably just a wolf. Throwing the third vote on someone definitely has intentions of moving thay wagon forward.

After this there is some interaction with Eden and Jamie that doesn't feel too pingy either way. I obviously don't know what Fox is capable of as wolf, but the conversations with these two slots feel pretty casual and easy. Is Fox able to do that with mates out in the open? I'm not sure. I'm probably leaning towards no

Imagine Dousing being wolf with Sweet and Jamie. Me using 2% of to bait out the wolf team and DESTROYING them.

It seems like xcution and Jamie are not scum together based on the volume of attempts xcution goes to for pushing Jamie and trying to convice others that its Jamie. If this is a bus this is a very long and very belabored bus which wouldnt make sense if Jamie was also bussing fox. its alot more bussing than I can explain.

So for now this moves Jamie to town for me

[brainbomb]

sorry for the wall but I am just noting that xcution and Jamie do have a ton of interaction and its mostly xcution trying to find a number of ways to convice people that Jamie is scum

[BunnyGo]

Snip


100% Jamie and Haze are not a scumpair though

Why…?

[Haze with a Z]

Morning yall. I don't understand Jamie's message tbh. I'm assuming they will explain later.