M80 Game Thread

[ghug]

@ghug excluding this game I assume you have no experience of X being scum. Right?

Nope

[ghug]

Okay, thought about what's happening mech-wise and I have a pretty good idea. I assume it's best not to talk about that yet. Of course, the important part is figuring out the rest of the team with Fox and X. I was just about to go to bed early too

Well done. I think it's rdr and either Bona or ghug.

Sorry, I'm really tired so I am thinking slow.

My gut tells me it is ghug. They've been working on Dousing and I all day and they did get me to start questioning my conviction about X. Why rdr?

What do you mean by "working on"? I've seen that a couple times now.

[ghug]

How the fuck do you get three clears from one action?

[ghug]

Oh I don't think that clears the targets.

[damo666]

Okay, thought about what's happening mech-wise and I have a pretty good idea. I assume it's best not to talk about that yet. Of course, the important part is figuring out the rest of the team with Fox and X. I was just about to go to bed early too

Well done. I think it's rdr and either Bona or ghug.

Sorry, I'm really tired so I am thinking slow.

My gut tells me it is ghug. They've been working on Dousing and I all day and they did get me to start questioning my conviction about X. Why rdr?

How many scum were on Bozo?

[damo666]

How the fuck do you get three clears from one action?

An unlikely set of events. So not 1 action.

[damo666]

Oh I don't think that clears the targets.

I think the combo I have in mind would. However Occam's would simply suggest X is scum.

[sweetandcool]

Well done. I think it's rdr and either Bona or ghug.

Sorry, I'm really tired so I am thinking slow.

My gut tells me it is ghug. They've been working on Dousing and I all day and they did get me to start questioning my conviction about X. Why rdr?

What do you mean by "working on"? I've seen that a couple times now.

In this case, "working on" refers to relentless brainwashing.

So hypothetically, if ghug is Mafia and X is Mafia, and ghug knows that public opinion is turning against X to dangerous levels, and sweetandcool has been leading the charge against X all game, then if ghug can say enough things to make sweetandcool question themself, then ghug can accomplish their goal, which is to see sweetandcool falter.

So ghug has been working on sweetandcool by making it sound like X is town and sweetandcool really has no basis for scumreading X. In fact, sweetandcool should scumread Dousing, who had already been under scrutiny. And if Dousing flips town, maybe it can be spun that sweetandcool is Mafia, and then sweetandcool can flip too.

Something like that.

[ghug]

Sorry, I'm really tired so I am thinking slow.

My gut tells me it is ghug. They've been working on Dousing and I all day and they did get me to start questioning my conviction about X. Why rdr?

What do you mean by "working on"? I've seen that a couple times now.

In this case, "working on" refers to relentless brainwashing.

So hypothetically, if ghug is Mafia and X is Mafia, and ghug knows that public opinion is turning against X to dangerous levels, and sweetandcool has been leading the charge against X all game, then if ghug can say enough things to make sweetandcool question themself, then ghug can accomplish their goal, which is to see sweetandcool falter.

So ghug has been working on sweetandcool by making it sound like X is town and sweetandcool really has no basis for scumreading X. In fact, sweetandcool should scumread Dousing, who had already been under scrutiny. And if Dousing flips town, maybe it can be spun that sweetandcool is Mafia, and then sweetandcool can flip too.

Something like that.

Got it.


As for the matter at hand, my drunk ass is confused, so it's probably best to not say any more until X responds.

[damo666]

Sorry, I'm really tired so I am thinking slow.

My gut tells me it is ghug. They've been working on Dousing and I all day and they did get me to start questioning my conviction about X. Why rdr?

What do you mean by "working on"? I've seen that a couple times now.

In this case, "working on" refers to relentless brainwashing.

So hypothetically, if ghug is Mafia and X is Mafia, and ghug knows that public opinion is turning against X to dangerous levels, and sweetandcool has been leading the charge against X all game, then if ghug can say enough things to make sweetandcool question themself, then ghug can accomplish their goal, which is to see sweetandcool falter.

So ghug has been working on sweetandcool by making it sound like X is town and sweetandcool really has no basis for scumreading X. In fact, sweetandcool should scumread Dousing, who had already been under scrutiny. And if Dousing flips town, maybe it can be spun that sweetandcool is Mafia, and then sweetandcool can flip too.

Something like that.

Possible

[damo666]

What do you mean by "working on"? I've seen that a couple times now.

In this case, "working on" refers to relentless brainwashing.

So hypothetically, if ghug is Mafia and X is Mafia, and ghug knows that public opinion is turning against X to dangerous levels, and sweetandcool has been leading the charge against X all game, then if ghug can say enough things to make sweetandcool question themself, then ghug can accomplish their goal, which is to see sweetandcool falter.

So ghug has been working on sweetandcool by making it sound like X is town and sweetandcool really has no basis for scumreading X. In fact, sweetandcool should scumread Dousing, who had already been under scrutiny. And if Dousing flips town, maybe it can be spun that sweetandcool is Mafia, and then sweetandcool can flip too.

Something like that.

Got it.


As for the matter at hand, my drunk ass is confused, so it's probably best to not say any more until X responds.

Town points for this.

[damo666]

X rdr Bona

[sweetandcool]

What do you mean by "working on"? I've seen that a couple times now.

In this case, "working on" refers to relentless brainwashing.

So hypothetically, if ghug is Mafia and X is Mafia, and ghug knows that public opinion is turning against X to dangerous levels, and sweetandcool has been leading the charge against X all game, then if ghug can say enough things to make sweetandcool question themself, then ghug can accomplish their goal, which is to see sweetandcool falter.

So ghug has been working on sweetandcool by making it sound like X is town and sweetandcool really has no basis for scumreading X. In fact, sweetandcool should scumread Dousing, who had already been under scrutiny. And if Dousing flips town, maybe it can be spun that sweetandcool is Mafia, and then sweetandcool can flip too.

Something like that.

Possible

Yeah, I could be wrong. ghug was really coming off as reasonable and cool-headed, trying to temper me to think clearer instead of tunneling.

But I know how they affected me, and they did manage to get me to start doubting myself, and being more suspicious of Dousing.

[ghug]

In this case, "working on" refers to relentless brainwashing.

So hypothetically, if ghug is Mafia and X is Mafia, and ghug knows that public opinion is turning against X to dangerous levels, and sweetandcool has been leading the charge against X all game, then if ghug can say enough things to make sweetandcool question themself, then ghug can accomplish their goal, which is to see sweetandcool falter.

So ghug has been working on sweetandcool by making it sound like X is town and sweetandcool really has no basis for scumreading X. In fact, sweetandcool should scumread Dousing, who had already been under scrutiny. And if Dousing flips town, maybe it can be spun that sweetandcool is Mafia, and then sweetandcool can flip too.

Something like that.

Possible

Yeah, I could be wrong. ghug was really coming off as reasonable and cool-headed, trying to temper me to think clearer instead of tunneling.

But I know how they affected me, and they did manage to get me to start doubting myself, and being more suspicious of Dousing.

Yeah if X is scum I think it's pretty fair to question me here.

[ghug]

X rdr Bona

I think rdr is town.

[damo666]

X rdr Bona

I think rdr is town.

Ok who else with X and Bona?

[sweetandcool]

Well done. I think it's rdr and either Bona or ghug.

Sorry, I'm really tired so I am thinking slow.

My gut tells me it is ghug. They've been working on Dousing and I all day and they did get me to start questioning my conviction about X. Why rdr?

How many scum were on Bozo?

Vote analysis was next on my tasklist.

So after your question here, I did examine D1.

The top three wagons were Bozo, Dousing, and President Eden. Two of those are confirmed town.

It seemed certain one of the three would be DK, so unless Dousing is Mafia they were under no pressure and could spread out quite a bit while guaranteeing a vote for town.

X was unvote, Fox was Bozo, ghug was Bozo, Bona was President Eden, rdr was Dousing.

I'm going to say two Mafia were on Bozo.

And I'm still not sure on Dousing, it seemed like Mafia preferred Bozo over Dousing. Fox and ghug switched from voting Dousing to Bozo at the last moment.

If you suspect rdr, the timeline would have been rdr starts Dousing wagon. Dousing wagon unexpectedly becomes a top wagon very quickly. Fox and ghug vote Dousing into the top wagon while President Eden goofs around making things tied or nearly tied. Then they doom Bozo at the last moment by switching from Dousing wagon.

[sweetandcool]

Why Bona? Are they less motivated as Mafia? Because they seemed to lean into the "I'm voting/against President Eden" thing a lot heavier than seemed natural. Like they were taking advantage of a dynamic so they would seem normal and not get suspected.

[sweetandcool]

X rdr Bona

I think rdr is town.

Ok who else with X and Bona?

If it's impossible for Haze to be scummates with X, and we believe ghug and rdr are town, then that leaves brain and Dousing as the only other people I could suspect. Lets have a look....

[sweetandcool]

It is much too late for me to be looking at brain's posts. There's a reason why I didn't want to properly analyze them. It's such a daunting task.

They did switch to Bozo pretty darn late though.