M80 Game Thread

[Kakarroto]

well, around 4 hours to go. I really want to hear from Xcution before that, what he has to say about dousings, sweets and my findings

[worcej]

*If Fox died, I mean, sorry

Where’s flum when we need him to shout Jamie just scumslipped

[Haze with a Z]

read up, dont feel the need to respond to anything new. I was just thinking and decided that if I die tonight, I want yall to look into ghug. Or at least question them a bit. If I don't die, we can ignore ghug for now. Unless it seems like town shot me. Which ig I don't see why they would but maybe I am worse than I feel.

[worcej]

read up, dont feel the need to respond to anything new. I was just thinking and decided that if I die tonight, I want yall to look into ghug. Or at least question them a bit. If I don't die, we can ignore ghug for now. Unless it seems like town shot me. Which ig I don't see why they would but maybe I am worse than I feel.

I hope you die tonight over myself lol

[BunnyGo]

Rereading kak's mentions of Fox, it's pretty slim pickings prior to worcej's announcement.

It largely focuses on kak trying to ask Fox about stuff (brain vs. eden and pyxxy).

And two posts that mention Fox, but ask Jamie about pyxxy.


AFTER the reveal is when it picks up. The post on page 157 reads in entirety:

"Call Foxcastle

you're slowly running out of time. I really, really would like to hear more from you."

This is weird.

Then on 160:

"Well Fox, last chance to say your final words if you are town. I promise I will strongly consider them, though I will not blindly follow them.

If you are mafia, I will respectfully ignore them though."

What's weird about it? Other than the fact no CC sprang up, and consequently Fox being Mafia was like 99% certain?

At the very least, it was bait to see what else Fox may tell us before their demise.

You want to play WIFOM with Fox? This is something I'd do in worcej's shoes BEFORE revealing my scan. BEFORE Fox knows he's got.

AFTER it just seems like showing up to be seen doing something and building EITHER a WIFOM case or bussing options. Trying to get intel from publicly outed scum is weird.

[Haze with a Z]

read up, dont feel the need to respond to anything new. I was just thinking and decided that if I die tonight, I want yall to look into ghug. Or at least question them a bit. If I don't die, we can ignore ghug for now. Unless it seems like town shot me. Which ig I don't see why they would but maybe I am worse than I feel.

I hope you die tonight over myself lol

That would probably be good tbh. I still think if that happens, ghug should be looked into.

[ghug]

@eden would you think it’s wrong to model HaZe on Flum?

from a personality perspective? they don’t seem too similar.

from a playstyle perspective, I think from what ghug said that Haze is probably more akin to rdr/bozo, though clearly a more frequent/higher volume poster

I think this is a better question for ghug so I’m gonna punt it to him

~

@haze I’m mostly kidding but just in case you might want to change the nightkill off ghug

I think damo with less math and more vibes is probably the best comparison.

[ghug]

from a personality perspective? they don’t seem too similar.

from a playstyle perspective, I think from what ghug said that Haze is probably more akin to rdr/bozo, though clearly a more frequent/higher volume poster

I think this is a better question for ghug so I’m gonna punt it to him

~

@haze I’m mostly kidding but just in case you might want to change the nightkill off ghug

idk why I would want ghug dead because I think that with ghug, I can prove why I am town much easier than without.

You’re saying that scum!HaZe can trick ghug easier than you could trick the rest of us? Why?

Nah, he's saying he's town and I can be convinced of it.

[BunnyGo]

@eden would you think it’s wrong to model HaZe on Flum?

from a personality perspective? they don’t seem too similar.

from a playstyle perspective, I think from what ghug said that Haze is probably more akin to rdr/bozo, though clearly a more frequent/higher volume poster

I think this is a better question for ghug so I’m gonna punt it to him

~

@haze I’m mostly kidding but just in case you might want to change the nightkill off ghug

I think damo with less math and more vibes is probably the best comparison.

Does HaZe not enjoy playing wolf? That's my biggest damo tell, is I always feel he only enjoys the game when town.

[ghug]

so after putting that in, it looks like that:

4: dousing
3: bona haze
2: ghug sweet jamie RD
1: eden fox kak damo

still a striking absence for X and Bunny

What do you conclude? And how did you include damo’s answer?

well, I still think it's much more likely that mafia didn't put their buddies into the three slots, maybe one they thought is hopeless to save for some cred, but not someone they think has a good chance to survive

also, what do you mean with 'how' I included damo's answer? Little confused here

I strongly disagree with this, FWIW, I think the likely scum move is to list exactly one teammate, though crafty folks will potentially take advantage of that and do something else.

[ghug]

i say this, but if ghug is scum, it may throw a slight wrench into my plan tbh.

Nah you can trust me.

[Kakarroto]

Rereading kak's mentions of Fox, it's pretty slim pickings prior to worcej's announcement.

It largely focuses on kak trying to ask Fox about stuff (brain vs. eden and pyxxy).

And two posts that mention Fox, but ask Jamie about pyxxy.


AFTER the reveal is when it picks up. The post on page 157 reads in entirety:

"Call Foxcastle

you're slowly running out of time. I really, really would like to hear more from you."

This is weird.

Then on 160:

"Well Fox, last chance to say your final words if you are town. I promise I will strongly consider them, though I will not blindly follow them.

If you are mafia, I will respectfully ignore them though."

What's weird about it? Other than the fact no CC sprang up, and consequently Fox being Mafia was like 99% certain?

At the very least, it was bait to see what else Fox may tell us before their demise.

You want to play WIFOM with Fox? This is something I'd do in worcej's shoes BEFORE revealing my scan. BEFORE Fox knows he's got.

AFTER it just seems like showing up to be seen doing something and building EITHER a WIFOM case or bussing options. Trying to get intel from publicly outed scum is weird.

you forget that there still was the option that he could've been driven town and worcej just scanned unlucky townFox

sure, that's not what happened, but at the time, how could someone know it?

[Kakarroto]

What do you conclude? And how did you include damo’s answer?

well, I still think it's much more likely that mafia didn't put their buddies into the three slots, maybe one they thought is hopeless to save for some cred, but not someone they think has a good chance to survive

also, what do you mean with 'how' I included damo's answer? Little confused here

I strongly disagree with this, FWIW, I think the likely scum move is to list exactly one teammate, though crafty folks will potentially take advantage of that and do something else.

would a mafia team that doesn't jail worcej do this though?

[Haze with a Z]

from a personality perspective? they don’t seem too similar.

from a playstyle perspective, I think from what ghug said that Haze is probably more akin to rdr/bozo, though clearly a more frequent/higher volume poster

I think this is a better question for ghug so I’m gonna punt it to him

~

@haze I’m mostly kidding but just in case you might want to change the nightkill off ghug

I think damo with less math and more vibes is probably the best comparison.

Does HaZe not enjoy playing wolf? That's my biggest damo tell, is I always feel he only enjoys the game when town.

wolf is stressful. I think it can depend on my role though if i like being enemy or not. I do feel I tend to do better as wolf for some reason but idk why tbh.

[BunnyGo]

What's weird about it? Other than the fact no CC sprang up, and consequently Fox being Mafia was like 99% certain?

At the very least, it was bait to see what else Fox may tell us before their demise.

You want to play WIFOM with Fox? This is something I'd do in worcej's shoes BEFORE revealing my scan. BEFORE Fox knows he's got.

AFTER it just seems like showing up to be seen doing something and building EITHER a WIFOM case or bussing options. Trying to get intel from publicly outed scum is weird.

you forget that there still was the option that he could've been driven town and worcej just scanned unlucky townFox

sure, that's not what happened, but at the time, how could someone know it?

I mean...you also posted those things AFTER Fox had done all his wiggling. What more were you expecting?

And that technical possibility makes your sense that you were scum intel fishing even weirder; it's the exact opposite of your previous reason.

[Haze with a Z]

i say this, but if ghug is scum, it may throw a slight wrench into my plan tbh.

Nah you can trust me.

the issue is one specific thing that I don't want to point out right now. I am hoping I can trust you. I just don't know if I can

[BunnyGo]

well, I still think it's much more likely that mafia didn't put their buddies into the three slots, maybe one they thought is hopeless to save for some cred, but not someone they think has a good chance to survive

also, what do you mean with 'how' I included damo's answer? Little confused here

I strongly disagree with this, FWIW, I think the likely scum move is to list exactly one teammate, though crafty folks will potentially take advantage of that and do something else.

would a mafia team that doesn't jail worcej do this though?

Why do *you* think they didn't jail/kill worcej?

[Haze with a Z]

actually I just realized I was thinking about it wrong but my point may still stand. And it may answer yesterday's questions. but idk.

[ghug]

also, I kinda feel ashamed for a thing I did there (I read it again and with retrospect knowledge I got the full of scope what I did wrong and kinda want to forget how stupid I was there)

but yeah, please start at page one for the full experience

What do you think you did wrong? I assume you’d try to not do it again, but we all have our tendencies.

nah, the shameful part is at the end ... because I didn't understand how much I would hurt ghug by not endvoting and making him feel he did the right decision ... it didn't occur to me and I was afraid of blowing my act if I endvoted and also kinda wanted to give Jamie a fair chance if he came back (which he didn't, he really went to sleep early because he needed to be somewhere the next day)

so even unintended, I acted like a complete ass and I'm thankful ghug forgave me. He got consoled by discord chat afterwards so he said he was fine with that, but a part of me still thinks he wants to pay it back to me and I clearly can see it after the reread why that might be

Oh yeah that was awful. I sat on end for hours trying to convince you I was town when you could have put me out of my misery.

[ghug]

Strange questions that have been bothering me regardless of game/alignment:

1) @kak do you sleep in a hammock? I don't associate that with Austrian habits; where did you pick that up?

2) @eden Since when do you have a son?

His son is Bofa