M80 Game Thread

[brainbomb]

Brainbomb - I was bored so I fed some of your quotes from D2 into ChatGPT and asked it to write script for a scene in which you thrill the town with your Mafia analysis.

Here is what ChatGPT produced:

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INT. STRATEGY ROOM - DAY

The group gathers around, attentive to Beancomb's strategic insights. Beancomb paces back and forth, his mind focused on the game.

BEANCOMB:
"Alright, team, let's dive deep into this mystery like we're navigating a labyrinthine maze at Chuck E Cheese's. We need to unravel the truth and unmask the cunning mafia hiding among us."

The room buzzes with anticipation as Beancomb delves into the analysis.

BEANCOMB (CONT'D)
"Consider this scenario: if Dousing is town, it's possible the mafia orchestrated a clever strategy, much like the carefully crafted burgers at Wendy's. They could have used a diversionary tactic, like swapping Dousing with a scum member, creating a smokescreen to cast doubt on their innocence."

The group nods, understanding the implications of Beancomb's theory.

BEANCOMB (CONT'D)
"Alternatively, if Dousing is already in cahoots with the mafia, they might have utilized a stealthy maneuver, much like ordering from the secret menu at Applebee's. They could have employed a bus driver to swap Dousing with an unsuspecting townie, aiming to paint Dousing in a falsely innocent light."

Beancomb scans the room, gauging the reactions of his fellow players.

BEANCOMB (CONT'D)
"Our mission, my friends, is to sort through the clues and identify the true culprits like seasoned detectives. We must analyze voting patterns, scrutinize claims, and uncover any misdirection that rivals a magician's act at a fast-food drive-thru. Remember, we're not just playing a game; we're fighting for justice and exposing the hidden agenda of the mafia."

The room is filled with a renewed sense of determination and focus.

BEANCOMB (CONT'D)
"So, let's put on our investigative hats and dive into this mystery like we're devouring a Big Mac at McDonald's. With each piece of evidence we uncover, we inch closer to victory, just like finishing that last fry in the bag."

Beancomb ends with a confident smile, rallying the team for the challenge ahead.

[Kakarroto]

So, BunnyGo, when are you going to reveal yourself finally?

+1 this post if you plan on posting before midnight tonight.

hmm, he keeps talking about the same few people ... maf-fox would surly pay more attention to that, I think ... or am I wrong there?

I previously drew attention to the fact he talked about, and directly addressed, BunnyGo, especially before BunnyGo had posted.

He also interacted with you a lot in the early game.

Perhaps he would interact with one or two scum members, and distance from others. Is there anyone he conspicuously didn't mention? I'll check.

yeah, he did interact with me, though I wouldn't say a lot. At least not originating from his side, I think he did only reacting later towards me. He did answer the questions I sent him (which I think others didn't at the time and just ignored me), so that's that. But I'd say only in the beginning he tried to really interact with me, the rest is more obligatory 'I should response or look bad', at least as far as I feel and remember. Maybe I'm wrong there, but I know my alignment so no reason to check. Feel free about it though if you're not sure about it/me.

From my perspective, bunny was different there, with a different tone. What I've seen about X felt also different from me. Currently I would lean more to that he tried to get bunny reeled in to connect with him and that he tried to make the interactions with x a more distancing one, but I'd like to hear more from others about it, especially X who became very quiet

[Kakarroto]

also, I'm normally not a fan of read lists posted in the middle of the night instead of the end, but I guess with two outed uncc'd PR's that's not too much of an issue. Still, I'd like to put out a reminder to at least think about it before you post.

[damo666]

also, I'm normally not a fan of read lists posted in the middle of the night instead of the end, but I guess with two outed uncc'd PR's that's not too much of an issue. Still, I'd like to put out a reminder to at least think about it before you post.

I don't think there was anything surprising in either sweet's or my lists but point taken.

[Kakarroto]

I wanted to follow up with "oh damo, you're here, great, what do you think of the case against X, anything you like to add or say about it"

but then immediately noticed that's kinda hypocrytical

so I'd still like you to think about it but if you have the feel there's something better left unsaid for now, wait for it until later

[BunnyGo]

thanks for the answer

strangely enough, I didn't get many answers here, but your input is very appreciated

also, in the post before, X explicitly said not to shoot damo ... could you see a mafia team with fox, x, damo and a fourth? If so, who would you guess for the last spot?

I'm one of the people who finds damo pretty easy to read by late game, so I wouldn't shoot him no matter what.

I don't know why X would say that...haven't seen the post (or if I saw it, it didn't stick).

I have no idea who the fourth would be there; nobody has specifically jumped out at me as having special interactions with those 4, but I haven't read closely for them. I'm still catching up first read.

Among the remaining players:

You, and dousing are among my scummier reads.

HaZe is hard to get a sense of.

brain I think I finally understand.

Maybe I was wrong about bona? but that's still not high on my list.

rdr I sussed last time he was scum, but got a bad scan on him and got confused. This time...not seeing it yet, but not seeing much of him yet.

jamie, and ghug seem like jamie and ghug; I have a hard time catching them and usually rely on those who don't have a hard time.

sweet is earnest...his post defending fox as possibly bussed was very very earnest. I can't tell yet if it's scum defending scum or town not wanting a miskill; but I'm leaning toward the latter.

Wait, I defended Fox? I hardly interacted with them this game. I do not remember defending them. Who bussed them?

Sorry, I was using “bussed” as “driven”.

[Haze with a Z]

also, another thing just popped into m y head, if we are thinking about one mafia not puttin in their commands, isn't it so that the gm allows other mafia members to put in commands for them? Or isn't that a thing anymore?

fair question

in my recent mafia games, worcej required the person using the power to at least confirm a different order or to enter the order themselves. f.x. i posted what joat damo should do but damo had to sign off. etc.

i'm assuming in this game, particularly because of my Informant power, that the powers must be submitted via PM even though the mafia can chat in their server

idk though

so is damo a joat as well? do they have any information for us?

[Haze with a Z]

i’m going to go mad thinking about this day shortener

imo it already happened so i dont need to worry about it tbh.

[Bonatogether]

post on X

heavy 'i need to make cases' energy

[Haze with a Z]

that explains a lot. Err I mean, what do you think then of fox's fascination with your upvotes. He seemed quite annoyed by you doing that, though then he proceeded to townread you (and questioned worcejs PR claim). If it would've been someone else than you, how would you see that?

I, as I said, lean towards that it looks a bit more like as if you were partner in crime there. Or do you think fox did fake all that?

I noticed it (obv...he talk about ME). It seemed genuine in the sense that he seemed honestly miffed by it (the "angry" post is not something I think of him randomly throwing in). I also tried upvoting almost every post talking about me just as an "I see you" thing. This in addition to upvoting the posts that were saying roughly what I was thinking.

In retrospect, it's an easy to talk about thing to appear to be hunting. Even leaves it with an easy to "change his mind about" later. as in "Oh...Bunny seemed scummy and weird for a bit, but that all makes sense and now that I've sussed him for a bit, now I'll reasonably change my mind."

I have no idea why he questioned worcej's claim.

Hmm, yes, that could be it, sure enough.

Do you remember that I asked you before to give me three people you would shoot (excluding fox)? I asked some more people about it. All the ones I did consider in my personal PoE (although two of them a bit higher but I wanted to include them still since I was unsure).

this were the answers they gave:
dousing (eden bona ghug) [post 2652 page 133 for reasons]
Bunny DID ANSWER (RD haze sweet)
damo did answer later (fox dousing haze)
RD did answer later (dousing haze because mafia bona because not readable)
X DID ANSWER (sweet jamie kak. maybe haze and ghug; NOT shoot brain or damo) [follows up with dousing getting bumped up because of the fox positive post]
fox didn't answer

brain did answer even while not asked (jamie ghug bona)

I did count damo's fox entry because I needed to ask him a second time and forgot to exclude fox there, so that's that.

Anyway, the result was this:
3: bona haze dousing
2: ghug sweet jamie
1: eden RD fox kak

quite nice right? Well, surprisingly, there were no votes for you, bunny, damo or X ... and that kept me thinking. In this list there should be the majority, if not all, mafia. Yet no votes for you three, even when they were in my post and people subconsciously were reminded of your names. But instead a vote for eden ... even two for ghug and jamie, which are green in edens (and mine) reads ...

and I think, between you three, the chance of hitting mafia is extremely high ... not with those who got many votes (and I even would veto bona and sweet here which I townread ... well a little bit of doubt has formed for bona, but surly not enough to consider him right now).

Additionally, you, bunny, and X were often a topic for fox. That is a lot of coincidence, I think ...

I feel I was asked this. Was it by someone else? And if it was you, why am I not on your list?

[Kakarroto]

also, another thing just popped into m y head, if we are thinking about one mafia not puttin in their commands, isn't it so that the gm allows other mafia members to put in commands for them? Or isn't that a thing anymore?

fair question

in my recent mafia games, worcej required the person using the power to at least confirm a different order or to enter the order themselves. f.x. i posted what joat damo should do but damo had to sign off. etc.

i'm assuming in this game, particularly because of my Informant power, that the powers must be submitted via PM even though the mafia can chat in their server

idk though

so is damo a joat as well? do they have any information for us?

intriguing question at this time of the night, what shall I ever say to this

[Bonatogether]

ghug:

I went through all of their posts and don't have much to particularly point to. They've been generally involved, flitting here and there. They don't make big posts, but they are certainly analyzing and have projected themselves as one of the town leaders.

I note that they've said a lot of nice things about me, but somehow it doesn't feel like pocketing.

But the biggest thing that makes me Townread them is:

This

and

This

The fact that they wanted me to investigate Foxcastle seems pretty town since there is no reason for Mafia to put me on the right track for free.
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VERDICT: Town/townlean, but since I actually can't read them there's a chance they are deep scum.

good verdict bad reasoning

[Bonatogether]

Jamiet:

Jamiet has been Jamiet this game. Consequently, the general consensus seems to be to read him as town. Since I can't read him and his actions seem consistent with town, we'll call him town.

VERDICT:

Town (I did read through all of his posts, even if this looks low effort, it is not).

jamie is always jamie but he hasn't jamietelled yet so idk how confident you can be

[Kakarroto]

I noticed it (obv...he talk about ME). It seemed genuine in the sense that he seemed honestly miffed by it (the "angry" post is not something I think of him randomly throwing in). I also tried upvoting almost every post talking about me just as an "I see you" thing. This in addition to upvoting the posts that were saying roughly what I was thinking.

In retrospect, it's an easy to talk about thing to appear to be hunting. Even leaves it with an easy to "change his mind about" later. as in "Oh...Bunny seemed scummy and weird for a bit, but that all makes sense and now that I've sussed him for a bit, now I'll reasonably change my mind."

I have no idea why he questioned worcej's claim.

Hmm, yes, that could be it, sure enough.

Do you remember that I asked you before to give me three people you would shoot (excluding fox)? I asked some more people about it. All the ones I did consider in my personal PoE (although two of them a bit higher but I wanted to include them still since I was unsure).

this were the answers they gave:
dousing (eden bona ghug) [post 2652 page 133 for reasons]
Bunny DID ANSWER (RD haze sweet)
damo did answer later (fox dousing haze)
RD did answer later (dousing haze because mafia bona because not readable)
X DID ANSWER (sweet jamie kak. maybe haze and ghug; NOT shoot brain or damo) [follows up with dousing getting bumped up because of the fox positive post]
fox didn't answer

brain did answer even while not asked (jamie ghug bona)

I did count damo's fox entry because I needed to ask him a second time and forgot to exclude fox there, so that's that.

Anyway, the result was this:
3: bona haze dousing
2: ghug sweet jamie
1: eden RD fox kak

quite nice right? Well, surprisingly, there were no votes for you, bunny, damo or X ... and that kept me thinking. In this list there should be the majority, if not all, mafia. Yet no votes for you three, even when they were in my post and people subconsciously were reminded of your names. But instead a vote for eden ... even two for ghug and jamie, which are green in edens (and mine) reads ...

and I think, between you three, the chance of hitting mafia is extremely high ... not with those who got many votes (and I even would veto bona and sweet here which I townread ... well a little bit of doubt has formed for bona, but surly not enough to consider him right now).

Additionally, you, bunny, and X were often a topic for fox. That is a lot of coincidence, I think ...

I feel I was asked this. Was it by someone else? And if it was you, why am I not on your list?

because, at the time, I deemed you very towny

but if you want to contribute and give your three bullet targets, sure, I'm happy about it, as shown in the case of brain

[sweetandcool]

I'm one of the people who finds damo pretty easy to read by late game, so I wouldn't shoot him no matter what.

I don't know why X would say that...haven't seen the post (or if I saw it, it didn't stick).

I have no idea who the fourth would be there; nobody has specifically jumped out at me as having special interactions with those 4, but I haven't read closely for them. I'm still catching up first read.

Among the remaining players:

You, and dousing are among my scummier reads.

HaZe is hard to get a sense of.

brain I think I finally understand.

Maybe I was wrong about bona? but that's still not high on my list.

rdr I sussed last time he was scum, but got a bad scan on him and got confused. This time...not seeing it yet, but not seeing much of him yet.

jamie, and ghug seem like jamie and ghug; I have a hard time catching them and usually rely on those who don't have a hard time.

sweet is earnest...his post defending fox as possibly bussed was very very earnest. I can't tell yet if it's scum defending scum or town not wanting a miskill; but I'm leaning toward the latter.

Wait, I defended Fox? I hardly interacted with them this game. I do not remember defending them. Who bussed them?

I think this responds to your fast reaction/idea, that after worcej announced his scan, your first response was to stop the flow and say that there is a possibility that fox might've been driven (or something like that).

At the time, I found it looked like quite a leap of logic where the first step of "yarr, we got mafia!" was kinda skipped. So I kinda want to ask you, why do I (and maybe others) have this impression? Can you explain what happened there?

Ah yeah, I can even see how my response looks like Mafia defending pal. I privately went through the elation stage, but that quickly turned to dread when I started seeing end votes. It reminded me of times in chess when the best move looked so obvious that I made it without thinking, only to immediately realize I had blundered.

So I wanted to slow down momentum before we did anything without thinking it through properly. And we still had the chance that Bonatogether CC worcej (though I thought that and the driver idea were extremely unlikely).

[Haze with a Z]

translation please on the words after "scum"

You don't know what "y'all" means?

I was told it was written "yal'l" ...

I always just write yall.

[Haze with a Z]

I do find it unlikely that pxy was shot by the pirates though based on what's been said

yeah, I doubt it too.

if you had three bullets, who would you shoot right now (disregarding the fox-scan)?

prob rdrive/damo/dousing tbh.

[Haze with a Z]

fair question

in my recent mafia games, worcej required the person using the power to at least confirm a different order or to enter the order themselves. f.x. i posted what joat damo should do but damo had to sign off. etc.

i'm assuming in this game, particularly because of my Informant power, that the powers must be submitted via PM even though the mafia can chat in their server

idk though

so is damo a joat as well? do they have any information for us?

intriguing question at this time of the night, what shall I ever say to this

if they have information, tell us? if they dont have information don't share anything?

[damo666]

also, another thing just popped into m y head, if we are thinking about one mafia not puttin in their commands, isn't it so that the gm allows other mafia members to put in commands for them? Or isn't that a thing anymore?

fair question

in my recent mafia games, worcej required the person using the power to at least confirm a different order or to enter the order themselves. f.x. i posted what joat damo should do but damo had to sign off. etc.

i'm assuming in this game, particularly because of my Informant power, that the powers must be submitted via PM even though the mafia can chat in their server

idk though

so is damo a joat as well? do they have any information for us?

Eden is talking about the last game

[Haze with a Z]

fair question

in my recent mafia games, worcej required the person using the power to at least confirm a different order or to enter the order themselves. f.x. i posted what joat damo should do but damo had to sign off. etc.

i'm assuming in this game, particularly because of my Informant power, that the powers must be submitted via PM even though the mafia can chat in their server

idk though

so is damo a joat as well? do they have any information for us?

Eden is talking about the last game

ah. you needing to sign off seems like something that may have happened this game tbh.