M80 Game Thread

[President Eden]

also, another thing just popped into m y head, if we are thinking about one mafia not puttin in their commands, isn't it so that the gm allows other mafia members to put in commands for them? Or isn't that a thing anymore?

fair question

in my recent mafia games, worcej required the person using the power to at least confirm a different order or to enter the order themselves. f.x. i posted what joat damo should do but damo had to sign off. etc.

i'm assuming in this game, particularly because of my Informant power, that the powers must be submitted via PM even though the mafia can chat in their server

idk though

[damo666]

also, another thing just popped into m y head, if we are thinking about one mafia not puttin in their commands, isn't it so that the gm allows other mafia members to put in commands for them? Or isn't that a thing anymore?

fair question

in my recent mafia games, worcej required the person using the power to at least confirm a different order or to enter the order themselves. f.x. i posted what joat damo should do but damo had to sign off. etc.

i'm assuming in this game, particularly because of my Informant power, that the powers must be submitted via PM even though the mafia can chat in their server

idk though

Maybe one of the scum can tell us.

[Kakarroto]

Hmm, I had an idea, in case eden isn't real PR, since the propagandist was removed, only the real quartermaster could change the votes.

I suggest, if this is the case, that the vote doubler power will be used tomorrow, at best at a target that is unlikely to be nk'ed tonight. Then the quartermaster doesn't even have to out themselves and we could just vote eden D3.

Also, maybe that has already happened D2 ... lets check back and see if it even had happened

You mean vote Eden D4 if D3 result shows vote manipulation.

I believe Eden btw for avoidance of doubt.

yeah, as I said, a bit late here

well, if a cc came around, I'm not too sure who to believe. But with this idea I think we don't need to think about it anyway.

[Kakarroto]

also, another thing just popped into m y head, if we are thinking about one mafia not puttin in their commands, isn't it so that the gm allows other mafia members to put in commands for them? Or isn't that a thing anymore?

fair question

in my recent mafia games, worcej required the person using the power to at least confirm a different order or to enter the order themselves. f.x. i posted what joat damo should do but damo had to sign off. etc.

i'm assuming in this game, particularly because of my Informant power, that the powers must be submitted via PM even though the mafia can chat in their server

idk though

Hm, we could ask chaqa, but I'm not too sure if that would be in the spirit of the game.

[President Eden]

also, another thing just popped into m y head, if we are thinking about one mafia not puttin in their commands, isn't it so that the gm allows other mafia members to put in commands for them? Or isn't that a thing anymore?

fair question

in my recent mafia games, worcej required the person using the power to at least confirm a different order or to enter the order themselves. f.x. i posted what joat damo should do but damo had to sign off. etc.

i'm assuming in this game, particularly because of my Informant power, that the powers must be submitted via PM even though the mafia can chat in their server

idk though

Hm, we could ask chaqa, but I'm not too sure if that would be in the spirit of the game.

that was my thought too

[Kakarroto]

hello dousing, how are you?

what do you think of fox having talked a fair bit about you?

[President Eden]

Trust me, I'll be a lot more active starting tmr. I've just been overworked and today marks the twelfth shift I've worked in a row.

I will finally get a few days off tmr and will resume a normal schedule and be a whole lot more active

you ok homie

[President Eden]

i'm being a bit of a smartass with that, but if rl stuff continues to interfere just check in and say so please

[Kakarroto]

i'm being a bit of a smartass with that, but if rl stuff continues to interfere just check in and say so please

yeah, if it's too much, I think chaqa can gangpress or shanghai someone to sub

also, the #hangthesubs movement is mostly a meme and not real, it can't hurt you

[President Eden]

i’m going to go mad thinking about this day shortener

[Bonatogether]

i’m going to go mad thinking about this day shortener

what if it doesn't matter

what if you don't actually need every piece to understand the picture

[Kakarroto]

i’m going to go mad thinking about this day shortener

maybe that was the only reason they did it

[Kakarroto]

i’m going to go mad thinking about this day shortener

what if it doesn't matter

what if you don't actually need every piece to understand the picture

to be fair, that IS what a mafia would say

[President Eden]

i’m going to go mad thinking about this day shortener

what if it doesn't matter

what if you don't actually need every piece to understand the picture

I want to know what it means

and I don’t want to wait for death to find out

we don’t need to know it. but it happened for a reason, and I’m curious what it is

I think I’m landing on it just being a more valuable tool earlier in the game when the picture is still less settled, so they just used it ASAP because they thought they had their bases covered. which I guess is marginal points toward the “afk mafia forgot to PM Chaqa the jail order” theory, but I recognize that whole theory is a narrative in search of facts, so it’s not really meaningful

[Kakarroto]

i’m going to go mad thinking about this day shortener

what if it doesn't matter

what if you don't actually need every piece to understand the picture

I want to know what it means

and I don’t want to wait for death to find out

we don’t need to know it. but it happened for a reason, and I’m curious what it is

I think I’m landing on it just being a more valuable tool earlier in the game when the picture is still less settled, so they just used it ASAP because they thought they had their bases covered. which I guess is marginal points toward the “afk mafia forgot to PM Chaqa the jail order” theory, but I recognize that whole theory is a narrative in search of facts, so it’s not really meaningful

maybe they just booked on town to commute worcej so they didn't bother to use an action there. It might be as easy as that. Maybe they really thought scanning worcej is worth more. Maybe they were so afraid of pyxxy's advice (that he shall be watched for everyone visiting him) that they didn't dare to touch worcej N1.

[President Eden]

those are all awesome insights that have convinced me to stop thinking about it

[Kakarroto]

With not enough info, it's just a guess right now. Sure there might be a 500 IQ play behind it where worcej is mafia with full towncred who now claims to get jailed every day until N5 (or N4?) with the jailings, but even then, we should have enough room for that to eventually run out and mafWorcej has no more place to hide.

Hmm, let me quickly check that:

17 start, so 13-4
bozo, pyxxy, fox makes 11-3
N2 10-3 (Jail 1)
D3 9-3
N3 8-3 (Jail 2)
D4 7-3
N4 6-3 (Jail 3)
D5 5-3
N5 4-3 (either worcej dies or can clear himself)

so with this way, we have enough; lets see what happens of other actions: suicide bomb is one for one (if no one is saved) so not important for that ratio

the only things that could change it are the doc save (and I'm pretty sure that will not save a mafia) or the pistol shot.

if the pistol shoots a town and not mafia, then we need a successful save; if the pistol shoots mafia, we are pretty save for any deep mafWorcej threat.

AND that all assumes we don't even get any other mafia in the daykills, so rest assured eden, if you feared worcej is mafia, we will sort him out in time.

[brainbomb]

also, another thing just popped into m y head, if we are thinking about one mafia not puttin in their commands, isn't it so that the gm allows other mafia members to put in commands for them? Or isn't that a thing anymore?

proxying

given the setup id say proxying would
not be allowed because what if I log off and some moron teammate of mine proxys me onto a kill that gets me caught by a watcher

[President Eden]

AND that all assumes we don't even get any other mafia in the daykills, so rest assured eden, if you feared worcej is mafia, we will sort him out in time.

if worc is mafia then he gets cc'd at some point and we laugh at him torpedoing fox for us

[Kakarroto]

AND that all assumes we don't even get any other mafia in the daykills, so rest assured eden, if you feared worcej is mafia, we will sort him out in time.

if worc is mafia then he gets cc'd at some point and we laugh at him torpedoing fox for us

yeah, I guess I just forget the easiest way to get mafWorcej