M80 Game Thread

[worcej]

the dousing wagon was a nothingburger. killing a newb over saying whatever dumb thing newbies say is not anything approaching even a d1 wagon-worthy case and makes zero sense

bozo's actual role doesn't make a difference to what information everyone active at eod had. you can't monday-morning quarterback an eod based on information learned from that eod. there basically could not have been a worse kill than dousing, aside from like you or eden as pr-claimants, and bozo was actually appearing scummy to some degree. not an ironclad case, not a super strong case, but a case. bozo was a better kill with the information we had.

Wanting to expand further here: Bozo may have been a better kill in your opinion at the time, and I do not argue against you for that, but to now argue that any dousing voters were dumb/bad/stupid/wrong/whatever with the information we have now that bozo was in fact town is fucking stupid to do and a waste of fucking time. It's a losing argument for you and pyxxy and continues to keep the gamestate stuck on the past and not actually moving forward.

i'm not calling them stupid, i'm saying their wagon was trash. i don't believe i've calleed players trash in this conversation. however, i do fully believe that their wagon was a non-optimal choice.

Under the context of D1, sure.

Now under N1, it shouldn't be so much considered trash anymore imho

[worcej]

wait is this a no night game or something?

Webdiplomacy allows posting in night phases. We're special.

[worcej]

I see night posting is allowed, which is the bane of my existence. I might not have a lot of time to play until the weekend now, but Monday is a holiday for me so I have three days off. I'm still on page eighty and don't have a lot of energy to catchup right now.

Don't feel bad about not posting at night. Some people, myself included, use it as a time to take a break.

[BunnyGo]

so this may not be important for me to know, especially since this doesn't impact me but does the friendly Neighbor end up with a chat with their target or not?

pretty sure no but

##callGM just in case

(fyi, the GMs check for "##" on each page, so writing "##callGM" will get a GM's attention to answer questions)

wait so the voting thing is run by actual people and not a bot?

Yes and no, there's a "search" feature in the webpage that makes it easy to search for "##Call"

But the Bot does most of the vote aggregation. Fun thing about that page is all the things are hyperlinks to the votes themselves.

[Bonatogether]

Wanting to expand further here: Bozo may have been a better kill in your opinion at the time, and I do not argue against you for that, but to now argue that any dousing voters were dumb/bad/stupid/wrong/whatever with the information we have now that bozo was in fact town is fucking stupid to do and a waste of fucking time. It's a losing argument for you and pyxxy and continues to keep the gamestate stuck on the past and not actually moving forward.

i'm not calling them stupid, i'm saying their wagon was trash. i don't believe i've calleed players trash in this conversation. however, i do fully believe that their wagon was a non-optimal choice.

Under the context of D1, sure.

Now under N1, it shouldn't be so much considered trash anymore imho

well obviously if you know bozo is town then you don't vote for him

[Haze with a Z]

Haze, why did you vote Bozo? I feel like your presence this game is severely lacking after being one of the top posters in Champs. Was there any other competing wagons at this time? Did you actually suss Bozo or did you just join the mob?

So it was kinda the mob and kinda me not wanting eden to die and thinking bozo looked worse than dousing

[Haze with a Z]

wait is this a no night game or something?

Webdiplomacy allows posting in night phases. We're special.

I think I've played with them one other time but it was a seperate thread and it was mostly un-game related chatter.

[Bonatogether]

wait is this a no night game or something?

Webdiplomacy allows posting in night phases. We're special.

I think I've played with them one other time but it was a seperate thread and it was mostly un-game related chatter.

wacky

[Haze with a Z]

X, I have actually until you just did this been thinking you have a lack of walls compared to champs as well as arguments and so I've been just thinking youve been acting weird this whole time

[BunnyGo]

Good job Pyxxy. Hope you are happy.

This is not a response I expect from rdr. Has he and pyxxy had beef lately?

[Xcution]

@Bunnygo I haven't interacted with you yet this game. How come you stayed away so long? Do you feel bad for outing worcej? Do you believe his claim? Who are the wolves?

*Look Sweet I'm asking questions!

Hey Xcution, yeah...that was an interesting conversation you had with Sweet.

I stayed away a while since I used to talk a lot. Like a lot a lot. Like I'd have twice as many posts as the next top poster.

After a hiatus, I tried being a bit quieter, and found myself getting people's vibes better. But my natural inclination to talk and talk kept coming back.

So this game (after a shorter hiatus), I decided to self impose a 24 hour of silence no matter what. I got my talking out by spamming our poor GM my thoughts to send to the GT. The hardest was when nobody pointed out the bot uses to HaZe--almost posted then.

Yes I feel bad about worcej. I was excited about catching him; he usually fools me as scum, and I thought "gottem". And then him townreading me for my silence was self-reinforcing...so I got excited.

I do believe his claim. Worcej has a history of snap claiming PRs in a big angry way like that (one time he CC'd me--I was scum claiming his role AND nobody believed me...he didn't need to claim at all--and got modkilled for his posts). I also cannot recall him fake claiming.

The wolves? I find brain incomprehensible. Every time I think I understand who he is and how he's thinking, it goes different. rdr is always like this day 1, and it's NAI--he could be town thinking he caught Dousing--he could be scum messing around convincingly. Eden is scummy as all get out; I have no idea what's going on there. Your interactions with sweet were a bit much, but ghug says that's how you play I guess? kak I need to reread...he posted a lot then disappeared.

What did you find interesting about my talk with Sweet?

And what happened when you talked a lot? Did you find yourself voted early? Because that might indicate that if you rolled wolf, you'd be a little SCARED of posting like you used to and getting blasted for it.

I'll be honest, I don't even know what worcej did for you to think he was wolf. I will say, though, that nothing really registered either about you pushing him the way you did. At the very worst, I think you pushing worcej is NAI.

Interesting. You and I have different opinions on Brain then because I can actually see where he's coming from. I guess maybe I have a bit of a talent of being able to understand the more abrasive slots, perhaps because I can come off as bit of an ass as well. LLAB!

I missed the part where rdr thought he caught Dousing. What happened there? However, I actually didn't mind rdr from what I can remember from his play. In don't think Dousing has really been active enough in my mind to push, though.

What do you think of Sweet's exchange of me then if you felt I was a bit too much? Unfortunately, I could reference you to a plethora of games were I maybe was 'a bit too much'. I don't always try and play like that, but sometimes I can come off as obtuse and tunnely. I'd rather push someone into the fire and see how they respond and sometimes I just end up throwing more gasoline on them.

Yeah, I'd say Kak is someone I have on my radar. The wallies made zero impression on me and kind of felt pointless. I would say his disappearance and reentry into the game seemed like he was struggling for content.

Do you have a top town read right now?

[Haze with a Z]

@Bunnygo I haven't interacted with you yet this game. How come you stayed away so long? Do you feel bad for outing worcej? Do you believe his claim? Who are the wolves?

*Look Sweet I'm asking questions!

Hey Xcution, yeah...that was an interesting conversation you had with Sweet.

I stayed away a while since I used to talk a lot. Like a lot a lot. Like I'd have twice as many posts as the next top poster.

After a hiatus, I tried being a bit quieter, and found myself getting people's vibes better. But my natural inclination to talk and talk kept coming back.

So this game (after a shorter hiatus), I decided to self impose a 24 hour of silence no matter what. I got my talking out by spamming our poor GM my thoughts to send to the GT. The hardest was when nobody pointed out the bot uses to HaZe--almost posted then.

Yes I feel bad about worcej. I was excited about catching him; he usually fools me as scum, and I thought "gottem". And then him townreading me for my silence was self-reinforcing...so I got excited.

I do believe his claim. Worcej has a history of snap claiming PRs in a big angry way like that (one time he CC'd me--I was scum claiming his role AND nobody believed me...he didn't need to claim at all--and got modkilled for his posts). I also cannot recall him fake claiming.

The wolves? I find brain incomprehensible. Every time I think I understand who he is and how he's thinking, it goes different. rdr is always like this day 1, and it's NAI--he could be town thinking he caught Dousing--he could be scum messing around convincingly. Eden is scummy as all get out; I have no idea what's going on there. Your interactions with sweet were a bit much, but ghug says that's how you play I guess? kak I need to reread...he posted a lot then disappeared.

wait is gt game thread or is it some other thread I should be following as well?

[worcej]

@Bunnygo I haven't interacted with you yet this game. How come you stayed away so long? Do you feel bad for outing worcej? Do you believe his claim? Who are the wolves?

*Look Sweet I'm asking questions!

Hey Xcution, yeah...that was an interesting conversation you had with Sweet.

I stayed away a while since I used to talk a lot. Like a lot a lot. Like I'd have twice as many posts as the next top poster.

After a hiatus, I tried being a bit quieter, and found myself getting people's vibes better. But my natural inclination to talk and talk kept coming back.

So this game (after a shorter hiatus), I decided to self impose a 24 hour of silence no matter what. I got my talking out by spamming our poor GM my thoughts to send to the GT. The hardest was when nobody pointed out the bot uses to HaZe--almost posted then.

Yes I feel bad about worcej. I was excited about catching him; he usually fools me as scum, and I thought "gottem". And then him townreading me for my silence was self-reinforcing...so I got excited.

I do believe his claim. Worcej has a history of snap claiming PRs in a big angry way like that (one time he CC'd me--I was scum claiming his role AND nobody believed me...he didn't need to claim at all--and got modkilled for his posts). I also cannot recall him fake claiming.

The wolves? I find brain incomprehensible. Every time I think I understand who he is and how he's thinking, it goes different. rdr is always like this day 1, and it's NAI--he could be town thinking he caught Dousing--he could be scum messing around convincingly. Eden is scummy as all get out; I have no idea what's going on there. Your interactions with sweet were a bit much, but ghug says that's how you play I guess? kak I need to reread...he posted a lot then disappeared.

I think I actually got modkilled for fighting with Durga and ghug...

[worcej]

@Bunnygo I haven't interacted with you yet this game. How come you stayed away so long? Do you feel bad for outing worcej? Do you believe his claim? Who are the wolves?

*Look Sweet I'm asking questions!

Hey Xcution, yeah...that was an interesting conversation you had with Sweet.

I stayed away a while since I used to talk a lot. Like a lot a lot. Like I'd have twice as many posts as the next top poster.

After a hiatus, I tried being a bit quieter, and found myself getting people's vibes better. But my natural inclination to talk and talk kept coming back.

So this game (after a shorter hiatus), I decided to self impose a 24 hour of silence no matter what. I got my talking out by spamming our poor GM my thoughts to send to the GT. The hardest was when nobody pointed out the bot uses to HaZe--almost posted then.

Yes I feel bad about worcej. I was excited about catching him; he usually fools me as scum, and I thought "gottem". And then him townreading me for my silence was self-reinforcing...so I got excited.

I do believe his claim. Worcej has a history of snap claiming PRs in a big angry way like that (one time he CC'd me--I was scum claiming his role AND nobody believed me...he didn't need to claim at all--and got modkilled for his posts). I also cannot recall him fake claiming.

The wolves? I find brain incomprehensible. Every time I think I understand who he is and how he's thinking, it goes different. rdr is always like this day 1, and it's NAI--he could be town thinking he caught Dousing--he could be scum messing around convincingly. Eden is scummy as all get out; I have no idea what's going on there. Your interactions with sweet were a bit much, but ghug says that's how you play I guess? kak I need to reread...he posted a lot then disappeared.

wait is gt game thread or is it some other thread I should be following as well?

GT = god thread usually

[Haze with a Z]

I am having the issue that everytime I think someone is one person, they turn out to be another. Mostly I keep mixing up bunny and X

[Xcution]

I see night posting is allowed, which is the bane of my existence. I might not have a lot of time to play until the weekend now, but Monday is a holiday for me so I have three days off. I'm still on page eighty and don't have a lot of energy to catchup right now.

Don't feel bad about not posting at night. Some people, myself included, use it as a time to take a break.

Yeah I've definitely played on sites where night posting is allowed, but I much prefer it when night is a rest for everyone. I usually use night to catchup with anything I missed and try to formulate my thoughts for the next day. But I don't try to be active of night posting is allowed.

[BunnyGo]

Dousing is either town who has a high enough opinion of PE that he would prefer to eliminate me over PE D1 despite expressing a negative view of PE's D1, mafia who was trying to justify a vote for T vs. T top wagons, or mafia who was trying to protect a teammate while hedging his position in case PE flips first (I know he was not bussing).

Despite townreading Eden it was this post that made me switch from Bozo to Dousing.

Explaining mainly for pyxxy's benefit.

damo shows up 16 minutes after EOD having not posted for 1 hour prior to EOD

[Xcution]

Haze, why did you vote Bozo? I feel like your presence this game is severely lacking after being one of the top posters in Champs. Was there any other competing wagons at this time? Did you actually suss Bozo or did you just join the mob?

So it was kinda the mob and kinda me not wanting eden to die and thinking bozo looked worse than dousing

How close was Eden as the counter wagon?

[President Eden]

i think fox is a baddie

[Haze with a Z]

wait is this the god thread or is the thing right above it that is like mafia master post the god thread?