M80 Game Thread

[worcej]

it means that you're using a post-facto knowledge base to argue against a course of action available in the moment before that knowledge was gained

I'm sorry, but Pyxxy is the one that is throwing me shade DURING THE NIGHT PHASE, AFTER THE FACT, as if I did something wrong or bad.

So far, with known facts, he's fucked up more than I have.

pyxxy was making the same basic argument before the end of day. curious how that works.

i dispute that he fucked up because i firmly believe dousing was one of the worst possible votes there. bozo was a better vote given the information we had. was it the wrong call? yes. could you have reasonably done better with the information we had? not with rigor and with confidence. pyxxy was right

Hard disagree here. Pyxxy isn't right about shit here.

In the moment, bozo contributed far more than dousing had and dousing's contributions when I made that post were pathetic. I am much more inclined to scum read a relatively newish player doing fuck all on D1 because they could be floundering and waiting for coaching/counseling from scumchat.

Then to come at me for my vote now on N1 in the same manner, without consideration that I was ACTUALLY RIGHT ABOUT MY OPINION, as he did for voters on D1 shows a pathetic ability to adapt to new information. It feels like he's stuck on utilizing emotion-based posts that are hella easy to fake.

[Bonatogether]

Maybe you should post less shit then so I can keep up with your style?

i don't follow how my posting affects your memory

I'll take a card out of Jamie's deck and say you post too much worthless shit and spew for me to think you'd be confused by someone's post. You usually just spew back instead of trying to be serious.

i say too much to be confused



what?

[President Eden]

because dousing voters were not giving any substantive reads, even by d1 standards? 'hur dur he's inactive' is NOTHING and thinner than a reed.

you must have missed all the times people pointed out that his view on me was bizarre

i haven't decided if i think it's scummy, but it doesn't make a lot of sense

i thought that was a dumb argument

i cite the book of pyxxicus, 2:5

what post is that? i'm on the LIG edition

[worcej]

i don't follow how my posting affects your memory

I'll take a card out of Jamie's deck and say you post too much worthless shit and spew for me to think you'd be confused by someone's post. You usually just spew back instead of trying to be serious.

i say too much to be confused



what?

You spew too much for me to remember you being confused.

All I can remember is arrogant youth and inability to reflect on your actions, like what most people your age struggle with.

[Bonatogether]

i'm a little disappointed honestly

i thought better of your solving skills than this

is there a purpose to this dismissive comment

to make you steaming mad so you'll go show me what's what by catching scum

making me mad at the player i think is scum will incentivize me to case other people? real smart

[President Eden]

is there a purpose to this dismissive comment

to make you steaming mad so you'll go show me what's what by catching scum

making me mad at the player i think is scum will incentivize me to case other people? real smart

yes, because you'll go back and reread and realize how stupid you're being

[Bonatogether]

because right now all you're doing is yelling at un-cc'd PRs

i don't believe the pr in prime question

[worcej]

to make you steaming mad so you'll go show me what's what by catching scum

making me mad at the player i think is scum will incentivize me to case other people? real smart

yes, because you'll go back and reread and realize how stupid you're being

He has a point Bona.

You're arguing with me about dumb D1 shit in the face of your vote/thoughts being fucking wrong while mine are still unproven.

[President Eden]

on the bright side I feel ok about him not being mafia probably

think we need to get ghug and/or haze tomorrow most likely

[worcej]

on the bright side I feel ok about him not being mafia probably

think we need to get ghug and/or haze tomorrow most likely

I do agree - I don't think Bona is mafia

[Bonatogether]

I highly disagree with this analysis on the dousing voters because we know bozo was town and got piled on. Why would scum be lazy voting dousing when they could easily just go into bozo with the rest of them?

It's far more likely that the dousing voters are town then scum here.

because dousing voters were not giving any substantive reads, even by d1 standards? 'hur dur he's inactive' is NOTHING and thinner than a reed.

It shouldn't need to be stated, but I highly value bozo as a player over an AFK'er on D1 who did less than him.

Facts: Eden's wagon was dead. I chose to put my vote on the less valuable and most likely harder to asses player in Dousing over Bozo. Bozo was actually town, so my opinion on Dousing being the better kill is still in limbo but we know for a fact bozo wasn't the better kill now.

the dousing wagon was a nothingburger. killing a newb over saying whatever dumb thing newbies say is not anything approaching even a d1 wagon-worthy case and makes zero sense

bozo's actual role doesn't make a difference to what information everyone active at eod had. you can't monday-morning quarterback an eod based on information learned from that eod. there basically could not have been a worse kill than dousing, aside from like you or eden as pr-claimants, and bozo was actually appearing scummy to some degree. not an ironclad case, not a super strong case, but a case. bozo was a better kill with the information we had.

[worcej]

My scum vibes are currently pyxxy, Kak, BB, and Haze.

[worcej]

because dousing voters were not giving any substantive reads, even by d1 standards? 'hur dur he's inactive' is NOTHING and thinner than a reed.

It shouldn't need to be stated, but I highly value bozo as a player over an AFK'er on D1 who did less than him.

Facts: Eden's wagon was dead. I chose to put my vote on the less valuable and most likely harder to asses player in Dousing over Bozo. Bozo was actually town, so my opinion on Dousing being the better kill is still in limbo but we know for a fact bozo wasn't the better kill now.

the dousing wagon was a nothingburger. killing a newb over saying whatever dumb thing newbies say is not anything approaching even a d1 wagon-worthy case and makes zero sense

bozo's actual role doesn't make a difference to what information everyone active at eod had. you can't monday-morning quarterback an eod based on information learned from that eod. there basically could not have been a worse kill than dousing, aside from like you or eden as pr-claimants, and bozo was actually appearing scummy to some degree. not an ironclad case, not a super strong case, but a case. bozo was a better kill with the information we had.

I agree with the inability to MMQB this - which also applies to anyone throwing shade at the Dousing voters.

[BunnyGo]

The theory behind the worcej votes is that he actually scumslipped and manufactured a patented Worcej PR Slip™ to cover it up?

I’ve decided that this is the most fun way to express my deep disdain for how shitty this town has been

Hardclaim quartermaster btw in case I get stuck in a meeting

How did you get your wagon to disappear playing like this?

[worcej]

100% disagree with your statement on there couldn't have been a worse kill on D1.

You could've killed me.

[President Eden]

i think everyone in that list besides haze is solid town

[President Eden]

The theory behind the worcej votes is that he actually scumslipped and manufactured a patented Worcej PR Slip™ to cover it up?

I’ve decided that this is the most fun way to express my deep disdain for how shitty this town has been

Hardclaim quartermaster btw in case I get stuck in a meeting

How did you get your wagon to disappear playing like this?

i'm an eldritch god made flesh

[worcej]

because dousing voters were not giving any substantive reads, even by d1 standards? 'hur dur he's inactive' is NOTHING and thinner than a reed.

It shouldn't need to be stated, but I highly value bozo as a player over an AFK'er on D1 who did less than him.

Facts: Eden's wagon was dead. I chose to put my vote on the less valuable and most likely harder to asses player in Dousing over Bozo. Bozo was actually town, so my opinion on Dousing being the better kill is still in limbo but we know for a fact bozo wasn't the better kill now.

the dousing wagon was a nothingburger. killing a newb over saying whatever dumb thing newbies say is not anything approaching even a d1 wagon-worthy case and makes zero sense

bozo's actual role doesn't make a difference to what information everyone active at eod had. you can't monday-morning quarterback an eod based on information learned from that eod. there basically could not have been a worse kill than dousing, aside from like you or eden as pr-claimants, and bozo was actually appearing scummy to some degree. not an ironclad case, not a super strong case, but a case. bozo was a better kill with the information we had.

Wanting to expand further here: Bozo may have been a better kill in your opinion at the time, and I do not argue against you for that, but to now argue that any dousing voters were dumb/bad/stupid/wrong/whatever with the information we have now that bozo was in fact town is fucking stupid to do and a waste of fucking time. It's a losing argument for you and pyxxy and continues to keep the gamestate stuck on the past and not actually moving forward.

[worcej]

i think everyone in that list besides haze is solid town

We don't agree in a mafia game?

Shocked. Shocked, I tell you.

[Bonatogether]

I'm sorry, but Pyxxy is the one that is throwing me shade DURING THE NIGHT PHASE, AFTER THE FACT, as if I did something wrong or bad.

So far, with known facts, he's fucked up more than I have.

pyxxy was making the same basic argument before the end of day. curious how that works.

i dispute that he fucked up because i firmly believe dousing was one of the worst possible votes there. bozo was a better vote given the information we had. was it the wrong call? yes. could you have reasonably done better with the information we had? not with rigor and with confidence. pyxxy was right

Hard disagree here. Pyxxy isn't right about shit here.

In the moment, bozo contributed far more than dousing had and dousing's contributions when I made that post were pathetic. I am much more inclined to scum read a relatively newish player doing fuck all on D1 because they could be floundering and waiting for coaching/counseling from scumchat.

Then to come at me for my vote now on N1 in the same manner, without consideration that I was ACTUALLY RIGHT ABOUT MY OPINION, as he did for voters on D1 shows a pathetic ability to adapt to new information. It feels like he's stuck on utilizing emotion-based posts that are hella easy to fake.

we just see things differently about bozo