M80 Game Thread

[ghug]

Jokes which have had the effect of moving his wagon down to third.

Actually they brought him into a tie for first. And then he claimed??

Oh?

It all happened quickly and I was playing another game.

His claim isn't a joke?

Fuck if I know, but it killed his wagon.

[Chaqa]

Day 1 Vote Count 5:
bozotheclown (5): Kakarroto, pyxxy, Jamiet99uk, Dousing, President Eden
Dousing (5): rdrivera2005, bozotheclown, damo666, worcej, Foxcastle
President Eden (3): Bonatogether, BunnyGo, ghug
Xcution (1): sweetandcool
Jamiet99uk (1): brainbomb

Haze with a Z and Xcution must vote.

9 minutes remain

[Jamiet99uk]

Kak +1ing all morning and only showing up now...

what morning are you talking about? because my morning I was a) sleeping and b) preparing in haste because I nearly overslept

and your morning surly not the last one because I just read the last 2 hours or so the 30+ pages I couldn't since I wasn't here

My morning. Maybe early afternoon. ##VOTE Kak

You're accusing him of lying?

Interesting!

[pyxxy]

Damo, worcej, and rdr still on Dousing. Incredible.

Bozo is self pres so I don't mind it.

Why you are so sure Dousing is town?

The alternative is that Dousing is hiding to avoid attention. Right?

You voted him and he responded with -2:30ish left until EOD.

Dousing hasn't posted since then.

During that time he's become a wagon.

This is so clearly a terrible wagon on an afk townie.

Because the alternative is that he's frozen and crying in scum chat but not a single one of you Dousing voters have argued this point.

[Haze with a Z]

##CALL GM: what happens if Haze and/or Xcution end on unvote? That used to be disallowed, but I'm not sure if that's still the case.

##GM Note:
All players should strive to cast a valid vote.

oh is unvote not not voting? well ill vote again anyways prob but thanks for letting me know

[President Eden]

Actually they brought him into a tie for first. And then he claimed??

Oh?

It all happened quickly and I was playing another game.

His claim isn't a joke?

Fuck if I know, but it killed his wagon.

i stay winning

[ghug]

what morning are you talking about? because my morning I was a) sleeping and b) preparing in haste because I nearly overslept

and your morning surly not the last one because I just read the last 2 hours or so the 30+ pages I couldn't since I wasn't here

My morning. Maybe early afternoon. ##VOTE Kak

You're accusing him of lying?

Interesting!

No, I'm accusing him of playing scummily. I believe his timing statements.

[Jamiet99uk]

##CALL GM: what happens if Haze and/or Xcution end on unvote? That used to be disallowed, but I'm not sure if that's still the case.

##GM Note:
All players should strive to cast a valid vote.

oh is unvote not not voting? well ill vote again anyways prob but thanks for letting me know

You've got 7 minutes to do it.

"Unvote" is not a target. You must end the phase with a vote on a player, or on "No Kill".

[pyxxy]

If Dousing flips scum ever you can chop me the next day phase.

This is clear afk town.

Vote Bozo or Eden. Get off Dousing.

[Jamiet99uk]

My morning. Maybe early afternoon. ##VOTE Kak

You're accusing him of lying?

Interesting!

No, I'm accusing him of playing scummily. I believe his timing statements.

It seemed like you were accusing him of giving +1's at a time when he claimed he had been asleep.

[Kakarroto]

##VOTE Preeminent Educator

(This is a vote for Eden)

I swear if chaqa counts this vote, I'm angry at him (see history for more details)

Bad take. There's no ambiguity and it's counted in the bot.

I can be angry at what I want. I guess you can give your opinion on that, but seeing that eden just claimed PR I wouldn't vote him in your case anyway.

[Foxcastle]

If Dousing flips scum ever you can chop me the next day phase.

This is clear afk town.

Vote Bozo or Eden. Get off Dousing.

You don't believe Eden's PR claim?

[brainbomb]

I don’t, but I’ll look. To be clear you mean the Dec 21 and Mar(?) 22 games where you and I were fighting, right? (I guess I need it even more explicit lol.)

@rdr—nothing notable about Haze, I don’t find them scummy per se so much as, the more my view of the game is developing, the more I think the mafia are in the wallflowers.

That's a good point. If not many people are pinging as scum, then looking towards the wallflowers makes sense.

Tbh I think Brain is (either purposefully or accidentally) misrepresenting Eden's arguments

from my POV: it looks like Eden (after reciving a direct question from Brain) told him that he does not want to vote against lowposters. This response reads as genuine to me and is backed up with shakey but valid logic for D1.

If I was gonna paraphrase Eden I'd say: the town is put in a better position when they are free to analyze the votes of lowposters rather than killing them outright and leaving us with no info.



For the record: I don't *love* this argument however, I think Brain has done a poor cross examination of Eden.

Personally his overreaction seems a little odd; although the Ad Hominem attacks by Eden weren't the best, I still think that Brain should've been able to see Eden's point and he is either (intentionally or unintentionally) misreading it.


The only thing preventing me from actually destructing Brian is that I feel like there's a trend among mafia players to miss the forest for the trees. There's a good chance Brain just hyperfixated on the proverbial tree that was Eden.

I resonated with this post somewhat. I wouldnt say it has me thinking this is super towny but it didnt strike me as forced or crafted too easily. Maybe its just too forgiving of both sides in me vs eden?

[Jamiet99uk]

5 mins left.

I'm not voting Dousing, so I'm staying on Bozo.

[Haze with a Z]

so reading/skimming what they've both said, I think I'd rather a ##vote bozo

[pyxxy]

Why is Dousing scum here?

How am I the only one willing to spend time at EOD to think about that.

[brainbomb]

I would prefer bunny here over either of these.

[ghug]

You're accusing him of lying?

Interesting!

No, I'm accusing him of playing scummily. I believe his timing statements.

It seemed like you were accusing him of giving +1's at a time when he claimed he had been asleep.

No, I'm accusing him of having been around for a while and not participating, which he acknowledges he did.

[brainbomb]

this is now almost exclusively PR that Bunny has pushed. possibly a third. just

[Jamiet99uk]

I would prefer bunny here over either of these.

Bunny isn't a wagon and you're voting for me.